Mr. Roy, thanks for posting this. I was getting ready to put my chains on and was wondering about the clearance. Saw a thread a while ago about swapping. Remember they said that it only gave an inch a side. Wich would be enough. Thanks for saving me a new thread. I don't know if you remember but I got the chains for my old 790. But I have the same size r4s on my 4310. Bring on that snow
Reversing Rear Tires
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Mechanos
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I know it's a different tractor, different wheels/tires, etc. but I was surprised at the amount of width gained when reversing the R1's on my 955. I'm getting ready to mount a 70A (after I go buy it and pick it up) so I want to reverse the wheels. In my instance, it gains me 8.5" total width.
Willl
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I wish. My 790 came with one piece welded wheels. 
Mechanos
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Well, just be sure I didn't use the wrong terminology... I swapped sides with the wheels.
Chuck Oppermann
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I have a 3720 with the larger R4s. I swapped sides and even the difference was not much at all. Maybe for some skinny chains it might be enough. I sure wouldn't put chains on it because chains do get sloppy at times. After I got some wheel extenders and put them on one side I noticed the original lug bolts didn't seem long enough. I also noticed that on the side with the swapped wheel, the lug bolts also were not sticking through the hub like the way they are from the factory. Just swapping sides makes the lugs to short. At least on my tractor and I didn't like that.
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By "Extenders", do you mean wheel spacers? If that's the case, you should have been supplied with longer studs or bolts (most Deeres I've seen use bolts) or something in the instructions discussing the need for longer bolts or studs.
Also, just by swapping side to side shouldn't have any effect on the length protruding through. (Disregarding any "extenders" or spacers) Those bolts are going through the wheel's hub just as they had before...no change in thickness (again, disregarding any extender or spacer).
You might want to recheck what you did...I think you may not have that wheel installed correctly.
Sumpter
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I reversed mine, but left the valve stems out. Just flipped the inner wheel. Gained about 4 inches total. Didn't notice much difference in stability, but have plenty of room for the chains. Didn't want to take out the plastic fenders.
I'm getting ready to do this as to gain some width. I have a couple of dumb questions.
1) What are you guys using to jack and support the rear end to do the swap? All my jack stands are too short. Did you buy the taller ones (expensive) or rig something up to get the both back wheels off the ground?
2) I have a farm jack, (and several auto jacks) what is the best jack point on the back to get both sides off the ground at the same time?
3) what is the weight of the 28" R-4 wheel assembly? Can I do this myself or will I need some help?
TIA for the help!
1) What are you guys using to jack and support the rear end to do the swap? All my jack stands are too short. Did you buy the taller ones (expensive) or rig something up to get the both back wheels off the ground?
2) I have a farm jack, (and several auto jacks) what is the best jack point on the back to get both sides off the ground at the same time?
3) what is the weight of the 28" R-4 wheel assembly? Can I do this myself or will I need some help?
TIA for the help!
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I use a standard hydraulic floor jack under the drawbar bracket. If your jackstands are too short, put a block of wood under them. Don't use a cinderblock (they can shatter).
You only jack enough for those tires to clear (maybe 1/4").
It's best to do this on a concrete floor. If you do it on asphalt, you definitely want a block of board under the jack stands.
As far as the weight...if your tires are filled, you definitely want help. Even if not loaded, it's a lot easier (and safer) with two people (one controlling the jack while the other mounts the tires.
Cool, thanks Roy for the feedback. That is kinda what I was planning on doing (using blocking) but wanted to check with the experts first! Mine are not filled so I may give it a shot solo first. I'll be doing this in my garage so shouldn't have any issues with it sinking in. I'll keep you posted on how it goes.
Mine are not filled so I may give it a shot solo first. I'll be doing this in my garage so shouldn't have any issues with it sinking in. I'll keep you posted on how it goes.