Hughman
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There is the option of not eating out. We pretty much gave up that habit when COVID hit in early 2020.
dstig1
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These got so bad in Minneapolis in particular, that the state legislature outlawed it a year or so ago. The restaurants cried to high heaven but it is a bait and switch pure and simple and should not be allowed. I still see it a bit in WI in a couple places, but they keep it pretty small so it becomes an issue of is it worth arguing about? The CC fee though is quite common everywhere now. Typ 3%
Oaktree
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As someone who lives in a state where tourism is a big part of the economy I can understand it. It's a way to shift some of the tax burden from the year-round residents to the tourists, who will probably pay it anyway. For example, we don't have a sales tax per se in our state, but there is a rooms & meals tax...essentially a sales tax on hotel rooms, campsites, etc. and prepared meals. The key is to strike the right balance...high enough to generate significant revenue but not so high as to discourage tourism.
How different is that than states that give a property tax break to a year-round residence but not to a vacation home?
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How about I bid $7k for your new fence, you agree and when it's all done demand an additional $3k for living expenses on top 
Mtsoxfan
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lol, that's funny too. Short side story about my deck. I asked several companies for a quote, not an estimate. I made sure it was perfectly clear that I wanted an out the door price, and any additions had to be discussed, as in changes I made. To the winning builder, I made sure again, that price quoted will be price paid, unless I changed something. I told him an estimate is an educated guess, a quote is a firm price. he agreed. I made a small addition, and was told $600 more. I agreed. Came bill time, his original price went up 50%, 12k to 18k. He said supplies were more expensive that he thought. If I did need help in future from any trade, I would have told him to pound sand. I agreed to 3k, which brought him up to two other bids.How about I bid $7k for your new fence, you agree and when it's all done demand an additional $3k for living expenses on top
IXLR8
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Since I don't get an employee discount for checking myself out... I refuse to use self checkout. My local wally world is nothing but self checkout... I don't go there anymore.I give the guy at the self checkout a tip every time I use it... I tell him you're fat. He always tells me he wants a second opinion, I reply you're ugly too.
LittleBill21
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i agree, hd and lowes do this and it really drives me nuts
CATRAT66
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Any establishment that adds a charge to your bill that is labeled a “tax” that is not an actual government (town, county, state or federal tax) is perpetuating fraud!!!!
If I enter a restaurant with a large group, I ask about mandatory tip additions and if they have them I say we will go elsewhere and it usually goes away.
Now I’m not a jerk and I tip according to quality of products and services received because myself and many family and friends are in the restaurant/service industry and that is how they make their living.
But I also feel that most people that are employed by others are as equally in the service industry whether your an accountant or a driveway sealer and with most employment the better you are at it the more you can charge for your labor/services.
Adding extra fees to me is cowardice and immoral.
I worked for county sewer department for 37 years and the only tip I ever got was to wash my hands before going to the bathroom. HAHAHA!!!!
If I enter a restaurant with a large group, I ask about mandatory tip additions and if they have them I say we will go elsewhere and it usually goes away.
Now I’m not a jerk and I tip according to quality of products and services received because myself and many family and friends are in the restaurant/service industry and that is how they make their living.
But I also feel that most people that are employed by others are as equally in the service industry whether your an accountant or a driveway sealer and with most employment the better you are at it the more you can charge for your labor/services.
Adding extra fees to me is cowardice and immoral.
I worked for county sewer department for 37 years and the only tip I ever got was to wash my hands before going to the bathroom. HAHAHA!!!!
Oaktree
Super Member
I don't get the hate on self checkout. To me it's way more convenient than standing in line (and without fail, get in the line with the slowest cashier). I'm smart enough to figure out the scanner. Scan, pay, get on my way.
Do you pump your own gas? If so, what's the difference? You're not an employee of the gas station either.
LittleBill21
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also not spending 45 minutes, i spend about 30 seconds to do gas.
