Replacement windows from big box store or lumber yard

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As a home remodeler, I replace windows fairly often for clients. You can go with wood, vinyl or metal. I like metal the best because of how smooth it is. Vinyl has an edge over metal for efficiency, but it's really too small to make a difference in my opinion, and the ease of how metal opens over vinyl is huge. Wood windows are always going to require maintenance, and even the most expensive ones rot and lose their paint at different rates depending on their exposure.

Home Depot and Lowes are both fine for ordering your windows. Just be 1,000 percent sure on your numbers, and know the difference between the actual rough opening and the listed size of the window. Some manufacturers mix those numbers together and there is a half an inch difference half of the time.

With double pane windows, you get a R value of about R2. There are all sorts of gimmicks and tricks used to get you to spend more for the window, but the R value stays pretty much the same. Every window is a loss of energy inside the house. The more you have, the more you have to work to overcome that loss. Buy a name brand and avoid all the extra's that wont make any difference once it's installed.

I would avoid buying from a window company. They are the worse at trying to sell you a window that has a list of extra features that you will never notice once installed. Thermal breaks, copper edges, reflective glass, and a list of other names for things that just add to the price. In my opinion, they are all pretty much crooks with highly trained sales people who live off of the commissions they get from getting you to spend as much as possible. Stick with the box stores on windows and go into it with all the information you can get to make sure it's right. They are just punching numbers into a screen, you review those numbers before it's ordered. If it's wrong, it's more your fault then theirs. If you are unsure, stop, go home, remeasure, and then go back. Special order windows are going to take 2 to 3 weeks to get there, so another day isn't going to matter to make sure you order the right size.

Be sure to measure the top and bottom width, and the left and right height. In most homes, it's not the same number!!!!!

What is really important is how well you seal the window on install. In every case that I've come across here in Texas, and before when I lived in California, the people who install windows have gotten really good at doing it fast, but not very well. They always seem to skip the part about sealing the window around the edges and instead might run a hit and miss bead of silicone, then covering it up with trim.

If possible, window tape really makes a huge difference. Wind is where you lose the most energy. It forced the outside temps into the wall cavity, and with poorly installed windows, it can be a direct path into the house. You have to stop the wind. If you can't get tap onto the outside of the window, be very generous with your caulking and be sure to use your fingers to really spread it out and get good contact.

Eddie
 
   / Replacement windows from big box store or lumber yard #12  
Eddie is right on with his post. We tried several of the $189 for any window places. The salesmen would get to the house and start with a more expensive window. When ask about the $189. We don't carry those out as samples because they are so fragile. Now why would I want to deal with somebody that won't even show the product that his buisness is advertising and what got him in the house to start with.

We called Lowes and a very knowledgeable man came out. He didn't do the hocuspocus with the heat light. His products were only slightly more than the window dealers and it was a better product. He took all the measurements and double checked them the next day. They also offered 18 mo. free financing. Which that made it nice paying off $11000.

The crew that put them in did an excellent job and cleaned up good. They were even hesitant about leaving some of the old windows because the salesman comes back and checks on the cleanup. We even got a $400 gift card which we used to buy a new storm door with. We then paid the contractor $50 to installed while he was there.

The windows make a big difference in the comfort of the house. The wind would blow so hard through the old ones it would blow the plastic off the inside. Big difference.
 
   / Replacement windows from big box store or lumber yard #13  
So much depends on how long you intend to live in the house...as a former carpenter by trade I installed thousands of windows. The original part of my personal home has Anderson basic quality double hung wood windows installed in in 1976...the sills are badly rotted and all 14 need replacing. My addition was built in 2002-2003 and all the Anderson 400 series casements (14 each) are like new...the real issue with wood windows and doors is that no matter how good the quality may be when new, condensation is a HUGE factor on how long they actually last. My 400 series windows and slider doors have an issue with condensation because winters here can be bitterly cold, and the inner window frames are aluminum which creates condensation. PM me if you want details.
 
   / Replacement windows from big box store or lumber yard #14  
I second Window World. I had them replace windows in 3 of my homes and never had a problem. Cheaper for them to do it than to do it myself. Only $189 per window no matter what size and all double pane windows. The cheapest model has special features like double hung, safety latches to lock the window slightly open, etc.

All places try to upsell you but just tell them you want the special $189 and you will get a quality, good looking window with a good installation.

One tenant broke a window 3 years after installation and they came out and replaced it free.
 
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I'll be following this thread since replacement windows are on my to do list for this year.
Andy, I have 20 year old (original to the house) wood casement windows that a number of them are in some stage of rotting. Any thoughts/tips or directions to a site that would guide me through doing the job myself. Thanks.

Replacement windows are primarily designed for double hung replacement, since that is the majority of the market. The frame that comes with them is 3 1/4" wide, the thickness of two standard wood sashes. The sashes are removed, the old frame left in place, and the new window takes up the space of the old sashes.

That said, you CAN use them for any other type of window (casement, slider, etc), or even new construction (you have to add your own trim outside), but all of those make the installation a bit harder, and not as easy to describe, as you have to know what part of the old window to remove (often CUT or chisel out), and what part to leave. With double hungs, it's easy....remove the stop molding on either the inside or out, pop out the sashes and middle stop, and stick the replacement in the hole. I can do it in 5 minutes or less. (Insulating, caulk, trim the outside moldings with matching trim coil takes a little longer, but I used to average 45 minutes per window on a whole house..... 12-15 windows.... of double hung with one trained helper)

The BEST way to replace a window is take it all the way out....old frame and all....back to the studs. Now most people won't do this because the labor is far more.....several hours per window or more...due to the work of mating the new window up to the existing exterior finish. Depending on the type of exterior, that's what I'd recommend you do. Pull the inside casing off so you can see the rough stud opening, then measure that, and order your windows to fit that opening. IF you have fairly standard windows now, you can probably use standard new construction windows with the exterior moldings already on them, and work them right back into your opening.


Take some good photos and come back with them if you want more specific advise.

andy
 
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Double hungs SUCK, repeat SUCK BIG TIME as far as cleaning goes. I HATE THEM....REPEAT, HATE THEM !!!! Casements are the ONLY way to go.....you pay a premium but it is well worth it.
 
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Window World seems to vary around the country (it's a national franchise). Some places you can get the $189 window with no problem, other places, they try their best to up-sell you a hundred bucks or more. I don't think they include trimming the exterior wood with matching trim coil in the $189 deal (at least they don't here)....that is usually an upgrade of $50 or more.

Most replacement windows are sold by the 'united inch'....width + height. So a fairly average 3/0 x 3/2 window (36" x 38" ) is a '74UI' window. You'll find most places sell that vinyl window for $110-$125 bucks. Window World has their own factory, so they probably crank them out in volume for 75-80. They pay their installers 40-50/window, so they have 'maybe' $130 installed cost, plus the sales commission and overhead and profit. They can do volume at $189 and come out...but the real gravy is in up-sales.
 
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I have 25 year old anderson double hung vinyl narrowline windows. Many of them really let the cold in. They lost their double glass shield. I'm going to get anderson combo storm windows. Cheap, simple to put in. They gotta help.
 
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With the low e glass if the sun is just right and I find the right spot to stand, the heat reflection is unreal. 75' from the house the heat will make me stop and think about what it's from.
 
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