Rear tire fluid

[ebeveridge]

Ok stupid question sorry
I have a kubota bx2350 with front end loader
Was thinking about putting fluid in rear tires to make using it better.
My question if I do this will it make going up a steeper hill more dangerous

 

[sandyc]

I believe it will lower the center of gravity and make it a bit safer

 

[Sheldon Hamblin]

Not a stupid question.
I’ve been running CUTs on similar property for over 30 years.
I load rear tires, even on my JD lawn tractor. Holds the hill much better.

When driving up a steep hill with an empty bucket, you may want to back up the hill,

 

[ebeveridge]

Not a stupid question.
I致e been running CUTs on similar property for over 30 years.
I load rear tires, even on my JD lawn tractor. Holds the hill much better.

When driving up a steep hill with an empty bucket, you may want to back up the hill,

I remove the loader when I am just mowing the yard. If I do fluid should I just back up hills rather than pull up them?
Or would I be better just building a ballast box

 

[Deere Dude]

If you can mow the hills now without the loader, adding fluid will make it nicer to mow even with the loader. I would leave the loader arms on and remove the bucket if possible when mowing. Make sure you have 4WD locked in so you don't come shooting down the hill with no brakes.

 

[Elkhorn98]

I never hear anyone filling front tires, but wouldn't that also help?

 

[jeff9366]

I have a kubota bx2350 with front end loader
Was thinking about putting fluid in rear tires to make using it better.

I never hear anyone filling front tires, but wouldn't that also help?

The tires front and rear on a BX have so little internal volume that filling them with liquid does not make much difference.

Adding iron wheel weights to the rear wheels will be more effective.
MORE: kubota bx rear wheel weights - Google Search

Most effective of all is to carry Front End Loader (FEL) counterbalance on the Three Point Hitch. As TPH counterbalance extends beyond the rear axle, pound for pound counterbalance is more effective than rear wheel ballast at holding down rear end due to LEVERAGE of counterbalance.

MORE: Kubota BX counterweight counterbalance site:tractorbynet.com - Google Search

 

[Rebeldad1]

Doesnt filling the rear tires add weight to the footprint of the tires only?
shouldn't affect going up or down a hill, loader on or off. whatever hangs beyond the rear of the axle stays the same, tires full or empty.

If the weight over the front axle lifts the rear then the extra added tire weight would aid in counterbalancing. Same goes with adding axle weights.

 

[JD 4520]

If I can expand the original question, I have had my tractor for 15 years without the tires filled. I recently purchased new tires and the dealer talked me into filling them. After much debate, I agreed. Now that I am using filled tires for the first time, my experience so far after one month is that I am not sure I feel more confident, in fact I am feeling less confident. Any thoughts why I feel this way? I was assuming I would feel a significant difference and wonder why it took me so long to fill them.

 

[shovelmike]

When I bought my Mahindra with loader the salesman included filling the rear tires as part of the deal, so I don't have a before and after comparison. The filled tires provided sufficient stability even when moving wet crusher run gravel, but in order to keep excessive load off the expensive front drive axle, I went with a 3 point suitcase weight bracket which includes a hitch receiver, loaded with 42 pound weights, it's more useful than a ballast box. I can see the hitch ball from the seat, line up under, and raise the ball right into the receiver...then latch the receiver and away I go.
Don't fill the front tires, no purpose in that.

 

[Diggin It]

I had my fronts filled. Most of my property is hills and I felt I needed all the low weight I could get. I leave the FEL on almost full time, even when mowing, but keep it as low as possible, just above skimming the ground. There are still a few places it all feels squirrely.

 

[CobyRupert]

Short answer is: Yes.
You will have more traction.
So “theoretically” it’s more possible that tractor would flip over backwards.
It would have to be one he|| of a hill to do that though. Front end would have to be extremely light, you might have to “pop the clutch” (‘stomp the hydro’ doesn’t have the same ring to it) to initiate the wheelie, or be pulling something that’s attached above the rear axle that lifts the front end. Soil conditions would also have to allow that much grip to rotate tractor instead of spinning.
Very very unlikely, but not impossible.

However, the slight, low percentage disadvantage of loaded tires is outweighed by having a lower center of gravity and more stability for sidehill travel, and greater traction for other jobs. Using 4wd also reduces the rotational torque around rear axle.

Tractor Flips and Crashes - YouTube

 

[Rebeldad1]

If I can expand the original question, I have had my tractor for 15 years without the tires filled. I recently purchased new tires and the dealer talked me into filling them. After much debate, I agreed. Now that I am using filled tires for the first time, my experience so far after one month is that I am not sure I feel more confident, in fact I am feeling less confident. Any thoughts why I feel this way? I was assuming I would feel a significant difference and wonder why it took me so long to fill them.

Adding weight to the tires wont make the tractor feel any different since you arnt adding weight to the tractor.... only the tires.
being said you will have more weight pressing down the tires for traction. When you load the loader bucket that tire weight will then act like adding a counterweight to the rear.
make sense??

 

[i7win7]

If I can expand the original question, I have had my tractor for 15 years without the tires filled. I recently purchased new tires and the dealer talked me into filling them. After much debate, I agreed. Now that I am using filled tires for the first time, my experience so far after one month is that I am not sure I feel more confident, in fact I am feeling less confident. Any thoughts why I feel this way? I was assuming I would feel a significant difference and wonder why it took me so long to fill them.

Assume you didn't change types (R4 to turfs) adding fluid to tires will reduce your max ground speed on the highway. When tractor tries to tip, the axle must lift more weight than air filled tire. Adding more rear ballast - counter balances load in bucket. Load should be kept low when moving material to reduce tendency of tip over (tree stumps and potholes at speed can case a flip)

 

[jeff9366]

adding fluid to tires will reduce your max ground speed on the highway.

You will have to explain this to me.

Adding a minimal volume of fluid to BX tires may slow acceleration a minimal amount, fluid will not reduce max ground speed. See next.

Newton's first law of motion: An object at rest stays at rest. An object in motion stays in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force.




Max speed for a BX is ~~13-mph.

 

[Deere Dude]

You will have to explain this to me.

Adding a minimal volume of fluid to BX tires may slow acceleration a minimal amount, fluid will not reduce max ground speed.

Max speed for a BX is ~~13-mph.

Seems to have slowed my tractor down by 1/2-1 MPH. Seems a little more sluggish and less hoppity over small bumps. But I like the ride better and don't mind giving up top end speed for the stability it seems to give. Those are my perceptions anyway that I noticed as soon as I installed rimgard... I still don't see any drawbacks from heavy fluid in tires.

 

[skipperbrown]

I filled my bx turf rears about 18 yrs ago with windshield washer fluid. No problems encountered. However, as Jeff says, you don't pick up much weight. I think I added about 50# per tire (as opposed to 600+ on my 80 hp tractor), but every little bit helps. I haven't filled my b's tires and I really need to do that.

 

[mcfarmall]

I never hear anyone filling front tires, but wouldn't that also help?

I read somewhere that some manufacturers advise against fluid in the front tires, not sure why but that's what I read.

Might check your manual real quick and see if there's anything in there about loaded front tires.

 

[i7win7]

jeff9366: When I was a teenager helping grandfather farm, he had a Ford 8n and International M's. We had to travel several miles to get to the fields. I always beat the M's by several minutes. After putting calcium chloride in the Ford, they always out ran me. Heavier tractor also to longer to stop at highway speeds.

 

[PILOON]

I never hear anyone filling front tires, but wouldn't that also help?

My CUT came with filled fronts, don't know why.
The front inner tubes were never designed to receive calcium either and the valves simply corroded causing leakage and ruining my rims.
IMO I does not help as I was able to experience the before and after, well perhaps a tad if steering on icy winter slopes.