Ready to trade in my 2305 for a 2320

/ Ready to trade in my 2305 for a 2320 #1  

T185

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JD 2520 & JD 3039R
After tearing out my transmission fan for the third time last week and struggling to lift a pallet off a trailer (not to mention the numerous pucker moments while doing various chores around the house) I've come to the conclusion that I need to upgrade.
Hmm.... JD 24 month 0% could not have come at a better time:)

Anyone interested in a used 2305 with 57 hours...
 
/ Ready to trade in my 2305 for a 2320 #2  
T185 , Go a head and spend the money. and get a 2520.
dont just buy the same motor and same single Hydraulic pump.
get a bigger motor and 2 pumps. more tractor, You wont be sorry i promise...;) if your going to step up. then step UP....:D

Chris...:)
 
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T185:

I mostly agree with Chris. I have a 2305 and a 3720cab. I too would love to upgrade (the 2305) to a 2320 or 2520 but I can't justify it. You'll get bigger tires and more lift capacity, position control, etc. with the 2320 but you won't get any more pump capacity. You'll also get front wheel scraping with the loader with I think both the 2320 and 2520 if you cut the wheels hard - you do not get that with the 2305. Ground clearance will also be greatly increased with either the 2320 or 2520 over the 2305.

As to the pucker factor :O) - If it's regarding balance you are going to get worse not better. The 2305 is about as stable as you can get if you properly ballast it. Mine with a 700lb ballast block and those tiny tires loaded is extremely stable. Use ANY CUT without ballast and they can easily out-muscle their weight and get you into trouble. Once you get taller those puckers get closer and closer in between. When I first got my 3720 with a front grapple I had it up on 2 (and even 1 wheel :) ) more times that I'd like to admit. That was with unloaded tires, but with an 800lb (and long) stump grinder on the back for Ballast. Loaded tires and wheel extensions helped it immensely and I now use an 1100lb ballast block on it whenever doing serious loader work.

Anyway, being able to contrast I appreciate the 2305's niche - A tiny workhorse with a great power to weight ratio (Even ballasted). I actually appreciate it's small stature at times for maneuvering around more than I curse it.

Good luck on your decision but if you decide to do it I'd go for the 2520. The only negative about the 2520 I've heard over the 2320 is that you have to remove the BH subframe mount (everyone needs a Back hoe) to mount the MMM deck.
 
/ Ready to trade in my 2305 for a 2320 #4  
T185 said:
After tearing out my transmission fan for the third time last week and struggling to lift a pallet off a trailer (not to mention the numerous pucker moments while doing various chores around the house) I've come to the conclusion that I need to upgrade.
Hmm.... JD 24 month 0% could not have come at a better time:)

Anyone interested in a used 2305 with 57 hours...
Dont worry T185 Im doing The same thing Im trading in my 2305 to get a 2320 I need more Ground Clearance I 've done alot of research &n talked too alot of people The 2320 is awesome same motor in the 2305 But im happy with The 24 horse yanmar Im just not happy with the HydroFan & the Tranny ! The 2320 compared to the 2305 they are completely different animals I have 30 hours on mine ! I bought mine in June ! I wish I would have known about that Tranny Fan ! Or I wouldnt Have bought the 2305 ! good luck !
 
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I hate to throw fuel on to the fire, but I don't see any real advantage in going to a 2520. You lose good 3pt hitch clearance, the nice deck adjustment if you mow, and get tire rubbing on the loader frame, etc. What you gain is more macho looks, 2hp, and faster hydraulics. The backhoe is the same for both, and weak in comparison to the competition. It actually has very little advantage over the 260 backhoe on the 2305.
I do think there are reasons to move to a 2320 over a 2305. You gain clearance, tougher underbody, weight, steering brakes, position control, loader lift, 3pt hitch lift weight capacity, and height. Those are a lot of advantages.
Two hp isn't going to change much. It's not like you can run a chipper with one, and not with the other. In running a rotary cutter I guess it means being marginal with a 5ft instead of it not being practical. Still, if you have enough open land to warrant a large cutter, you really should look at the 3000 series. Now, you are talking about doubling many capacities, and that is meaningful.
If you are going to do a lot of finish mowing, and have tight places to get into, both on the lawn, and on rough ground like woods, a 2320 will do everything you need done in that size tractor. If you are going to skid logs, lift round bales, etc. you need weight, size, and hydraulic power. I just think the 2520 is too big to be small, too expensive, and too limited to be big.
Load your shotguns, and Bows........ I know I'll take a few hits for this!!
:)

Chris: remember you are looking at a bigger tractor before you hit me too hard! :)
 
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I learned pretty quick how to deal with the 3pt on my previous 2520. I never had any problems with tire rub after that, and I only had to raise the mower and move the knob one click to adjust mower height. I could mow my yard in high range (open yard) and only used low around trees and gas tank around the house. With no ballast, I had no problems mowing steep ditches. I just got tired of swapping out mower and implements a couple of times weekly between my place and the other two places I mow. JC
 
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ChuckinNH said:
I hate to throw fuel on to the fire, but I don't see any real advantage in going to a 2520. You lose good 3pt hitch clearance, the nice deck adjustment if you mow, and get tire rubbing on the loader frame, etc. What you gain is more macho looks, 2hp, and faster hydraulics. The backhoe is the same for both, and weak in comparison to the competition. It actually has very little advantage over the 260 backhoe on the 2305.
I do think there are reasons to move to a 2320 over a 2305. You gain clearance, tougher underbody, weight, steering brakes, position control, loader lift, 3pt hitch lift weight capacity, and height. Those are a lot of advantages.
Two hp isn't going to change much. It's not like you can run a chipper with one, and not with the other. In running a rotary cutter I guess it means being marginal with a 5ft instead of it not being practical. Still, if you have enough open land to warrant a large cutter, you really should look at the 3000 series. Now, you are talking about doubling many capacities, and that is meaningful.
If you are going to do a lot of finish mowing, and have tight places to get into, both on the lawn, and on rough ground like woods, a 2320 will do everything you need done in that size tractor. If you are going to skid logs, lift round bales, etc. you need weight, size, and hydraulic power. I just think the 2520 is too big to be small, too expensive, and too limited to be big.
Load your shotguns, and Bows........ I know I'll take a few hits for this!!
:)

Chris: remember you are looking at a bigger tractor before you hit me too hard! :)
I agree with You If your going to get a 2520 You Just as well spend the extra & get the 3000 series That will do almost every thing you want !
 
/ Ready to trade in my 2305 for a 2320 #8  
ChuckinNH said:
I hate to throw fuel on to the fire, but I don't see any real advantage in going to a 2520. You lose good 3pt hitch clearance, the nice deck adjustment if you mow, and get tire rubbing on the loader frame, etc. What you gain is more macho looks, 2hp, and faster hydraulics. The backhoe is the same for both, and weak in comparison to the competition. It actually has very little advantage over the 260 backhoe on the 2305.
I do think there are reasons to move to a 2320 over a 2305. You gain clearance, tougher underbody, weight, steering brakes, position control, loader lift, 3pt hitch lift weight capacity, and height. Those are a lot of advantages.
Two hp isn't going to change much. It's not like you can run a chipper with one, and not with the other. In running a rotary cutter I guess it means being marginal with a 5ft instead of it not being practical. Still, if you have enough open land to warrant a large cutter, you really should look at the 3000 series. Now, you are talking about doubling many capacities, and that is meaningful.
If you are going to do a lot of finish mowing, and have tight places to get into, both on the lawn, and on rough ground like woods, a 2320 will do everything you need done in that size tractor. If you are going to skid logs, lift round bales, etc. you need weight, size, and hydraulic power. I just think the 2520 is too big to be small, too expensive, and too limited to be big.
Load your shotguns, and Bows........ I know I'll take a few hits for this!!
:)

Chris: remember you are looking at a bigger tractor before you hit me too hard! :)

Chuck , i ant going to hit ya.....:D
but here is a few points. made. as rolltide said. once you know how to set the 3 point up. it ant a problem. as for the loader hitting tires. i never had this happen with R4's , and i have had it twisted up pretty good. i have heard of it happeneing with turf tires. now as for compairing the 46 hoe to a 260 hoe. well you can look at the numbers and see there is no compairing dig power. now as for jumping from a 2305 to a 3000. your not talking $2000 anymore. you are talking serious money. and all new attachments to boot.

And you are right. i will get a bigger tractor. cause i just want more hoe. and more power. so talking about going from a 2520 to eather a L39 or a 110 JD.
now that is apple's and oranges. That is quite a sever Jump...;)

My wallet will be crying for a while thats such a Jump....:D

Chris....:)
 
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RollTideRam said:
I learned pretty quick how to deal with the 3pt on my previous 2520. I never had any problems with tire rub after that, and I only had to raise the mower and move the knob one click to adjust mower height. I could mow my yard in high range (open yard) and only used low around trees and gas tank around the house. With no ballast, I had no problems mowing steep ditches. I just got tired of swapping out mower and implements a couple of times weekly between my place and the other two places I mow. JC

I agree with everything you have said. There are workarounds for the tire clearance issues (barely, and I wouldn't want loose tire chains), and the mower height adjustment is fine if you can mow the whole yard at one setting ( I use three different settings for different sections because of terrain, or wetness). The 2520 is an excellent tractor, but you did nothing that couldn't be done just as well with the 2320, and with the smaller diameter turfs, I suspect that the stability of the 2320 is as good as the 2520.
 
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T185,

You don't have any information in your profile so it's tough to see what your needs are. How heavy was the pallet you were trying to lift? Is your property flat or inclined? Do you need a brush cutter?

I chose the 2520 over the 2320 because of:
1) Larger direct injected Diesel with more torque and easier starting.
2) Dual Hyd pumps
3) Better loader function and slightly more capacity (don't shoot me)
4) The 2.5HP more as I felt they would be better for my 655 and the snow blower (When it arrives someday in '08)

I had the typical 2520 tire/hitch arm interference until I swapped the wheels side to side and added an I-Match, since then, never hits now. I don't have any tire clearance issue with the loader so I can't speak to that, same for the mower deck and Hoe stuff. (I have a Wright Stander for the grass and I borrow my buddy's Case TLB if I need a Hoe, sorry Chris, free beats $5500)

My 2 cents,
Tom
 
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Hi Chis :)
Yes, you gain a few hundred pounds of digging force with the bucket, and less with the dipper going from a 260 to a 46 backhoe, and you gain a half foot in digging depth. If you went from a 2305/260 to a Kubota B2630 / BH75you would double (roughly) the digging power, and add a 1 1/2 feet in digging depth. I'm not saying in any way that Orange is better here since I do like many things about green tractors.... including their color :) , but that is the kind of meaningful difference I would look for in that price / weight range.
 
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Tomd999,
The points you make are valid. You also gain torque with the larger engine, and that is good for both tillers, and chippers. For your uses, it looks like you made a very good choice.
 
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ChuckinNH said:
Hi Chis :)
Yes, you gain a few hundred pounds of digging force with the bucket, and less with the dipper going from a 260 to a 46 backhoe, and you gain a half foot in digging depth. If you went from a 2305/260 to a Kubota B2630 / BH75you would double (roughly) the digging power, and add a 1 1/2 feet in digging depth. I'm not saying in any way that Orange is better here since I do like many things about green tractors.... including their color :) , but that is the kind of meaningful difference I would look for in that price / weight range.

Chuck , i ant saying orange dont have some binifits sometimes...;)
I might soon be spending $40000 to because of that fact.....:D

All i am saying is i ran both in dirt and 2520 was more machine.
i am not saying its better for everyone. just that it is more machine.

Chris...:)
 
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tomd999 said:
T185,

You don't have any information in your profile so it's tough to see what your needs are. How heavy was the pallet you were trying to lift? Is your property flat or inclined? Do you need a brush cutter?

I chose the 2520 over the 2320 because of:
1) Larger direct injected Diesel with more torque and easier starting.
2) Dual Hyd pumps
3) Better loader function and slightly more capacity (don't shoot me)
4) The 2.5HP more as I felt they would be better for my 655 and the snow blower (When it arrives someday in '08)

I had the typical 2520 tire/hitch arm interference until I swapped the wheels side to side and added an I-Match, since then, never hits now. I don't have any tire clearance issue with the loader so I can't speak to that, same for the mower deck and Hoe stuff. (I have a Wright Stander for the grass and I borrow my buddy's Case TLB if I need a Hoe, sorry Chris, free beats $5500)

My 2 cents,
Tom

But Tom , it makes such a nice counter weight on the back....;)
<-----Everyone needs a hoe......:D

Chris...:)
 
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Chris,
Your opinions come from more experience than I have with either tractor, and I certainly respect them as always. It's unfortunate that John Deere chose to limit the hydraulic speed on the 2320.
 
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ChuckinNH said:
Chris,
Your opinions come from more experience than I have with either tractor, and I certainly respect them as always. It's unfortunate that John Deere chose to limit the hydraulic speed on the 2320.

Well Chuck , thay did not haft too. :) thay did it. and used one pump
because its cheeper. those extra options is what makes the 2520 cost
more. some folks want more power , and thay haft to pay for it...;)

Chris...:)
 
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ChuckinNH said:
I agree with everything you have said. the mower height adjustment is fine if you can mow the whole yard at one setting ( I use three different settings for different sections because of terrain, or wetness). The 2520 is an excellent tractor, but you did nothing that couldn't be done just as well with the 2320,

I don't know if you have the independant lift, I did. Raise the deck, turn the knob and you have differant cutting height. I could mow in high range, I have heard you could not on a 2320. Also I had no trouble using my lx5. JC
 
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I think it all comes down to what you want to do with the tractor. I cut 80% of the time with the 2305. FEL and Box Blade work make up the other 20%. As most of you know that have up graded the 2305 is a grass cutting monster. The FEL could be faster and lift more but it has always impressed me. Yes the fan and filter are very close to the ground but just looking at the tractor you should have known this. If you add height to the tractor you would take away form it's nimbleness.

Now if my main task was FEL and BB work the 2520 would be my pick. As said before you must add some major weight to these little tractor so they can do the job.

Sounds like you did not get the right tractor for your needs. I hope this time it works out for you but I would look hard at the 2520. Now let keep bashing the little 2305.
 
/ Ready to trade in my 2305 for a 2320 #19  
T185 said:
After tearing out my transmission fan for the third time last week and struggling to lift a pallet off a trailer (not to mention the numerous pucker moments while doing various chores around the house) I've come to the conclusion that I need to upgrade.
Hmm.... JD 24 month 0% could not have come at a better time:)

Anyone interested in a used 2305 with 57 hours...
I was in your shoes last year and was considering an upgrade. I was able to get into a 2520 by keeping my existing 200CX loader, blower, box blade and traded in the 2305 and 62C mower and bought a new rear finish mower instead of the pricey 62D. This made the price difference to go to the 2520 very reasonable. My situation was a little different though cuz I was leasing the 2305 but I bought the 2520 out right.

Were you planning on keeping your existing implements?

On the topic of pucker moments, the larger framed 2520 (very similar to the 2320 i suspect) is much more solid on slopes than my old 2305, so you won't have any worries there.

One last note on the extra torque of the 2520.. you'll notice the power difference, absolutely! Your power to weight ratio will get worse on the 2320 compared to the 2305, and the ratio is even better on the 2520. I smile every time I'm pushing the tractor and can feel/sense the difference in how it handles compared to the 2305. Before you make any decision, I would suggest trying both out.. ABSOLUTELY...and I don't mean just take it for a spin around the dealership.. put them both to work with the loader and some ballast.. you will feel the difference. Chris has mention this in the past, and I cound't agree more!!

Good luck with your decision!

GN
 
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Mayor said:
I think it all comes down to what you want to do with the tractor. I cut 80% of the time with the 2305. FEL and Box Blade work make up the other 20%. As most of you know that have up graded the 2305 is a grass cutting monster. The FEL could be faster and lift more but it has always impressed me. Yes the fan and filter are very close to the ground but just looking at the tractor you should have known this. If you add height to the tractor you would take away form it's nimbleness.

Now if my main task was FEL and BB work the 2520 would be my pick. As said before you must add some major weight to these little tractor so they can do the job.

Sounds like you did not get the right tractor for your needs. I hope this time it works out for you but I would look hard at the 2520. Now let keep bashing the little 2305.

I mow about 20% (3/4 of an acre) and use the FEL, bush hog the other 80%. Coming from a full size JD 555B TLB I was a little skeptical when I first purchased my 2305 and my fears have come true:mad: No one to blame me...
 

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