Rant on shipping

[California]

Amazon allows for specific delivery instructions be included in your address. Such as front door, garage or porch.

Sometimes ignored. I put 'Tractor Barn' as the last line of address when I bought a ROPS from Hoye.

UPS hid it in weeds halfway down the driveway. That were so tall that I never found it until Hoye traced it and insisted it was delivered. I suspect the driver didn't like the large heavy components.

 

[user.69169]

Well I've got a package shipped from Syracuse, NY to be delivered in Greenwich, NY;

December 9, 2020, 11:19 pm
Accepted at USPS Origin Facility
SYRACUSE, NY 13209

December 10, 2020, 12:34 am
Arrived at USPS Regional Origin Facility
NORTHWEST ROCHESTER NY DISTRIBUTION CENTER

December 14, 2020
In Transit, Arriving Late
Your package will arrive later than expected, but is still on its way. It is currently in transit to the next facility.

And it's still in transit.

Dat translates to sittin in one de trailers over at de old Ragu sauce factory waitin to get in de door soon as USPS figure out how to move trailer.

 

[Jstpssng]

I sent out a soil sample this spring via Priority Mail; it was only going 70 miles. For the next two weeks I got the "Your package is in transit to the next facility", and finally realized that it was lost. I assumed the blame, thinking it was because I shouldn't have shoved that pint of dirt into a Priority envelope.

Then one day I got an email from the soil lab, giving me my test results. I checked my tracking one last time and it was still in transit...

Sometimes I wonder why the USPS still spends the money on thier quasi tracking.

 

[japody]

Same here. Our local Post Office sends all our outgoing mail 187 miles to Anchorage only to be processed and trucked back a day or few later. Makes no sense.

The average clerk at the PO can sort mail at the rate of 700 letters per hour. Once it gets to the carrier, they sort the mail at their case at the rate of 500 letters per hour. The machines at the distribution and sorting facility are capable of sorting at the rate of 25 to 30 K per hour. Once it's sorted on the machines, it goes back to the station. It does not need to be sorted by the carrier because it has already been put in delivery sequence according to their route. It's simply economies of scale.

 

[Diggin It]

^^ But most rural POs probably get less than a couple of hundred letters or packages addressed with the same zip code per day, maybe per week. It makes no sense not to move it from one box to another in the same building rather than send it hundreds of miles. There isn't enough scale to matter.

 

[Jstpssng]

^^ But most rural POs probably get less than a couple of hundred letters or packages addressed with the same zip code per day, maybe per week. It makes no sense not to move it from one box to another in the same building rather than send it hundreds of miles. There isn't enough scale to matter.

There are 200 people in my town. The clerk spends as much time studying for her classes as she does doing postal work. That 25 or 30K per hour really doesn't apply here.

Yet aren't you the one who mentioned things are done this way so that I don't mail pig **** to my neighbor with the barking dogs?

 

[dragoneggs]

I love when I get an email that says your USPS package was shipped and then when I click on the tracking number it says... 'Label created'. Then I get another email that says your USPS package was shipped, and I click on the tracking number it says... 'Waiting for package to be picked up'.

 

[ultrarunner]

Maybe someone in the know can shed light on recurring issue of Return to Sender, Addressee Unknown" or "Moved, Please Forward"

Thirty years ago never a problem... now when a tenant moves or a home sold mail that is properly marked with bar code obliterated and large Return to Sender stickers has a 50/50 chance of coming back in a few days...

Dropped off 31 letters today at the post office counter ranging from Bank Statements, Car Registration, Jury Notices, Bail Bond Statements and Toll Violations...

 

[Jstpssng]

Maybe someone in the know can shed light on recurring issue of Return to Sender, Addressee Unknown" or "Moved, Please Forward"

Thirty years ago never a problem... now when a tenant moves or a home sold mail that is properly marked with bar code obliterated and large Return to Sender stickers has a 50/50 chance of coming back in a few days...

Dropped off 31 letters today at the post office counter ranging from Bank Statements, Car Registration, Jury Notices, Bail Bond Statements and Toll Violations...

Somebody needs to fill out a change of address form before mail can be forwarded. Would you tell your parole officer that you were moving?
Hypothetical question of course, which probably neither of us is qualified to answer.

 

[japody]

Maybe someone in the know can shed light on recurring issue of Return to Sender, Addressee Unknown" or "Moved, Please Forward"

Thirty years ago never a problem... now when a tenant moves or a home sold mail that is properly marked with bar code obliterated and large Return to Sender stickers has a 50/50 chance of coming back in a few days...

Dropped off 31 letters today at the post office counter ranging from Bank Statements, Car Registration, Jury Notices, Bail Bond Statements and Toll Violations...

The letters are processed by OCRs that sort the mail at the rate of 25 - 30 K per hour. The machines only do what they are told to do. If the letter gets back to your local PO, the carrier is supposed to make a notation in his/her "edit book" that will direct the sorting machines to handle the mailpiece accordingly. If you see the same letter repeatedly, the carrier is not making the notation. There are a lot more steps involved but that is the simple explanation.

 

[Peter 315]

Still in Springfield Ma... 12/19/20................

NASHUA NH DISTRIBUTION CENTER

Arrived at USPS Regional Facility December 21, 2020 - 12:04 pm

Departed USPS Regional Facility December 21, 2020 - 6:40 pm

Getting closer.........

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

I love when I get an email that says your USPS package was shipped and then when I click on the tracking number it says... 'Label created'. Then I get another email that says your USPS package was shipped, and I click on the tracking number it says... 'Waiting for package to be picked up'.

Yep.... just had an order that said "shipped", but tracking showed just "label created" .... for 4 days.... then finally "picked up"..... then sat at the acceptance facility for another 3 days.

After another week, finally got it.... it was supposed to be received in 4 days....

 

[fried1765]

Maybe someone in the know can shed light on recurring issue of Return to Sender, Addressee Unknown" or "Moved, Please Forward"

Thirty years ago never a problem... now when a tenant moves or a home sold mail that is properly marked with bar code obliterated and large Return to Sender stickers has a 50/50 chance of coming back in a few days...

Dropped off 31 letters today at the post office counter ranging from Bank Statements, Car Registration, Jury Notices, Bail Bond Statements and Toll Violations...

With a little luck, your letters will arrive at their destinations before inauguration day.

 

[ultrarunner]

The letters are processed by OCRs that sort the mail at the rate of 25 - 30 K per hour. The machines only do what they are told to do. If the letter gets back to your local PO, the carrier is supposed to make a notation in his/her "edit book" that will direct the sorting machines to handle the mailpiece accordingly. If you see the same letter repeatedly, the carrier is not making the notation. There are a lot more steps involved but that is the simple explanation.

We have carrier of the day or week... not like the old days with the same regular for years.

It takes work because the address is totally obscured by Return to Sender and bar code blacked out...

Most are noted Forwarding Requested on government envelopes...

At what point can I toss is my question?

 

[user.69169]

We have carrier of the day or week... not like the old days with the same regular for years.

It takes work because the address is totally obscured by Return to Sender and bar code blacked out...

Most are noted Forwarding Requested on government envelopes...

At what point can I toss is my question?

Any time you want to.
Once it in your box it is your property. USPS don't care what you do.

 

[goeduck]

Two deliveries today, I cannot complain about our delivery people at all. Lucky I guess.

 

[dougtrr2]

Funny how out expectations have changed. Before computers became glued to our hands we were content to know that something would be delivered in 2-3 weeks. Now we expect realtime updates and get wound up if it doesn't tell us the driver is waiting at a red light.

Doug in SW IA

 

[Oaktree]

Funny how out expectations have changed. Before computers became glued to our hands we were content to know that something would be delivered in 2-3 weeks. Now we expect realtime updates and get wound up if it doesn't tell us the driver is waiting at a red light.

Ain't that the truth, and how much of what we order online really needs to be here yesterday to begin with?

Clearly, the present model for shipping was never designed for this amount of volume.

 

[Diggin It]

2-3? Try 4-6, or more.

You had to read through a catalog or magazine/newspaper ad, cut out the order form and fill it in by hand, add cash, check or money order, then address and stamp the envelope and send it off. You never even knew if they received it until you got the package two months later.

And if you didn't get it, there wasn't a whole lot you could do.

 

[NoTrespassing]

My Father has been a rural carrier for 56 years now. He tells me all the time it ain't what it used to be. His customers love him and will hate to see him go. He can't find a substitute driver worth a plug nickel. Package volume has increased dramatically for USPS over the last two decades.

My rant, I placed an order with QVC on the 15th of December. I was wondering if it would make it by Christmas as promised. This morning I checked the status, for some reason they cancelled the order on the 18th without notifying me. They still have the item in stock so who knows why it was cancelled.