Putting a Cummins 24V with VE mechanical injection pump into my 2008 F250 with failed Navistar engine

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So many diesel shops have been busted for doing deletes that no-one will touch it nowadays. I also live within 50 miles of the EPA office in Ann Arbor so no-one nearby will do anything delete related. Its either DIY or nothing. I actually bought a device to change the controller software but the engine failed before I got around to it....
I had my first major issue other than wear and tear on my 2012 Ram 3500 last fall at 260,000. Issues with the EGR. I was surprised when I called a local diesel shop about a full delete on the truck and they had me in the shop the next morning and ready to pick up that afternoon. No secret handshake needed. I figured I would have trouble finding someone to do it. Will prob turn 300,0000 by the end of the year.
 
   / Putting a Cummins 24V with VE mechanical injection pump into my 2008 F250 with failed Navistar engine
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EPA Hits Two More Diesel Tuners With $10 Million Fine For Defeat Devices​


The EPA's crackdown on diesel emissions defeat devices has come to Michigan.
EPA Hits Two More Diesel Tuners With $10 Million Fine For Defeat Devices

The above would be why. How is a diesel shop supposed to survive a $10 Million judgement ? They cant, its that simple. Bankrupcy court is the only path. In Michigan September 2022.
 
   / Putting a Cummins 24V with VE mechanical injection pump into my 2008 F250 with failed Navistar engine
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After a very long wait for the machine shop to get to my engine, I finally got it back last week after having the block bored 0.020" oversize. The cylinder head was rebuilt with new guides and a valve job and pressure tested. The crank was checked but deemed to not need any work.

Since the ordinary engine stands are not up to the job of holding up the mighty Cummins 5.9 and since I am not up for building a heavy duty engine hoist for what might be a 1x use, I decided to go a different route and make a dolly type engine stand that has the crank vertical with the flywheel side of the engine down. This is very similar to how aero engines are worked on, except in their case the front of the engine (prop flange) is facing down.

So I got 2 2x2' sheets of 3/4" plywood and glued and screwed them together.
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I made a rubbing of the back of the block to get the hole positions and transferred that info from paper to the plywood (put the rubbing face down like having the block sit on the plywood). Using my Rong Fu clone I then drilled the block attachment points slightly over 1/2" since the bolts are M12x1.5 (recycled old head bolts). I also marked all the hole positions for 5/16 bolts for the castors I picked up. They are good for 350lb each x 5. Rated for 1750lb, I believe the engine should come in around 1200lb when fully assembled.
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Here is 1 of the head bolts shown, its about 5" long. 1.5" will be used up by the thickness of the plywood dolly, the rest will stick out above. I will then add a tubular spacer to each bolt, 1"OD, 0.5" ID. I will cut them so that there is at least 0.75" of thread engagement into the block casting. This is to raise up the back of the block from the dolly so that the crank will be free to rotate and nothing touching the bolts for the castors.,
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Here is the block stood up on the pallet to make the rubbing of the back face. Once I get the spacers trued up on the lathe, I can bolt the dolly to the back of the engine and then get it stood right side up on the dolly. Then I should easily be able to move it around and get access to all the sides needed. The only things that will have to wait is the transmission adapter plate and the flex plate, those can be installed once i have the engine hanging from the engine hoist right before going into the truck. First job is to wash off the block and clear all the internal passages of any machining and honing residue and then I can oil it and start the assembly process.
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That's great, it's picking up traction!
 
   / Putting a Cummins 24V with VE mechanical injection pump into my 2008 F250 with failed Navistar engine
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She is bolted to the dolly now. 6 recycled head bolts and 6 spacers 2 3/4" long made from 1"OD x 0.5" ID tubing. Now I need to move the cylinder head and crank, then I can get the pallet out the way and can start cleaning all the abrasive material off the block and get it ready to go back together. Ill give the dolly a coat of urethane to protect it from the bath it will get when washing the block.

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If you go with the Ford dealership of course you will get the replacement engine in the exact same state as the original, whereas with the independent shop at least they will upgrade anything that needs it or that they know about for basically the same price that Ford charges.

My truck does not make me any money, its just a money pit but if you want heavy equipment you have to have a legal way to move it... I would love to find myself an old 1950s truck to customize and drop my cummins running gear into when I am done with moving and building the shop and retirement house.
One of the problems with installing a Cummins into older gasser trucks is the engine torque. It likes to eat up transmissions in those older trucks. Dodge rolled out the redesigned transmissions in 2005 to handle the torque of the Cummins.
 
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Dont worry, the 5R110 that was behind the Navistar 6.4 is one of the strongest transmissions out there.
 
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