Push Mowers, Battery Vs. gas

[Diggin It]

I only use a push mower to get around the edges into places the rider won't go, so I'd consider a battery mower if it came time to replace the gas one I have. I could also see it being fine for someone with a city lot-sized lawn.

I've got maybe a 20-30' perimeter around the house I push mow, partially for the exercise. I think it'll be OK for that.

 

[Grumpycat]

The only BIG advantage with an eMower pusher is ... It can be left out in the RAIN.

The opposite is true. EGo specifically states their push mower must be stored out of the weather. They went to effort to make the handle fold, feet on the backside of the mower, a handle on the front, so it stores vertically flush against a wall. No gas, no oil, no smell other than rotting grass.

 

[bmaverick]

The opposite is true. EGo specifically states their push mower must be stored out of the weather. They went to effort to make the handle fold, feet on the backside of the mower, a handle on the front, so it stores vertically flush against a wall. No gas, no oil, no smell other than rotting grass.

So, keep it out of the RAIN. Yet, you store it with moldy rotting grass against the wall in the garage.

Next the eMower OPS Manual will say, Do Not hose of rotting grass.

My nose is not bothered by gas nor oil. BUT, rotting grass that turns either dark black or powder white moldy, my nose has a problem with that.

 

[two_bit_score]

I love the smell of freshly cut St. Augustine grass. Doesn’t matter what it’s cut with.

 

[Grumpycat]

So, keep it out of the RAIN. Yet, you store it with moldy rotting grass against the wall in the garage.

Next the eMower OPS Manual will say, Do Not hose of rotting grass.

My nose is not bothered by gas nor oil. BUT, rotting grass that turns either dark black or powder white moldy, my nose has a problem with that.

Out of the weather, out if the rain, out of the sun and do not use the garden hose to wash off or wash out.

Deck cleans out easy with a stick.

Also have a Turtle Wax spray protectant for automotive plastic which is slicker than Teflon. Does a great job of keeping grass from sticking.

 

[two_bit_score]

Just an FYI to anyone who might have a Kolbalt (Lowe’s) battery mower. They are evidently made by greenworks and if You have a 80 volt mower Lowe’s will have very limited blades available. You can get them from greenworks.com

I'm a little ticked off that I have to order blades from greenworks and pay shipping if a local Lowes store doesn’t have the blades.

 

[Diggin It]

Flubbered.

I was hoping they'd do a year end thing and cut the price a bit more. Nope. They jacked it up $100 to $649. I ain't bitin' at that price. Now I'll wait until Spring and see what happens. Might get one of the lesser units.

Power head is OK though. Used it today with a pole saw attachment to knock some odd branches off a copuple of trees slated to come down. Needed to be more sure of which way they'll fall.

 

[Grumpycat]

My favorite mower shop says he has been told 2022 dealer cost is 15% to 20% higher than the pretend 2021 prices.

"Pretend 2021" because he couldn't hardly get any product to sell.

And today our betters who are running the government told us, "inflation is only transitory." Ain't seen nutt'n yet.

If you want it and they have it now, better get while the get'n is good.

 

[two_bit_score]

My favorite mower shop says he has been told 2022 dealer cost is 15% to 20% higher than the pretend 2021 prices.

"Pretend 2021" because he couldn't hardly get any product to sell.

And today our betters who are running the government told us, "inflation is only transitory." Ain't seen nutt'n yet.

If you want it and they have it now, better get while the get'n is good.

We went from a mostly free market economy to almost complete central planning over the course of a year.

From freedom to chose where and how much to work to you could work or not based on decisions made by the central planners. From you could travel where and when to strict control on who could travel and where and when determined by the central planners.

Unless we rid ourselves of the central planners get ready for extreme shortages and high inflation akin to Venezuela. It’s the natural result of the central planners. At least for the masses, never for themselves.

 

[GT48DXLS]

Both of my gas push mowers are giving me fits. Run one time, not the next, carbs, plugs, filters, whatever. I'll muddle through this year, but I'll be watching the season end closeouts that should start before too long. I know everybody has their favorite and most hated brands, but I've had decent experiences so far with Ryobi. What I'm not sure of is between 40V and 80V that some brands offer.

And I don't understand package pricing. I see one package with a 21" mower, string trimmer and one charge and battery for $400, but I also see a mower with battery and charger for $250 and a trimmer with battery and charger for $150 which means I could get the mower, trimmer, two batteries and two chargers for the same $400.


But I'm still not convinced battery mowers have the guts of gassers for taller grass. I use the two riders and SCUT for most everything, so the battery pusher would just be for trimming smaller areas.

If you are in one of 15 CARB compliant States it may not matter in a couple years, since battery will be your only option due to AB-1346 banning all small engines 25hp and under with some exceptions.

If interested in more and which States are CARB compliant,

Is AB-1346 The Beginning To The End Of The GARDEN TRACTOR?

My Wife brought something to my attention this morning that was more bad news specific to the "Hobby" most of us share. I did some searching to find out how bad it was and became "Stunned" at the far reaching potential impact that one US State (California) can have on the Nation as a whole, I'm...

www.tractorbynet.com

 

[Diggin It]

The Ryobi 40v 21 inch "crosscut" mower has gas power. Great mower. So much easier to trim with because it's lighter than the beastly gas powered stuff. So much easier to pull back on a slope. The crosscut is a self propelled mower. You can get the 21 inch and a 20 inch Ryobi in push, but why push when you can so easily get power? Just wish they'd give us a reverse. Would be so easy to do.

No belts, just motors for the wheels and for the blade.

It is not a budget mower. The crosscut is near $600, but the push ones are a bunch cheaper.

How's this working? Getting to that time of year again and the offers are starting to come in, plus they've now added the 10% Vet discount.

 

[jyoutz]

Both of my gas push mowers are giving me fits. Run one time, not the next, carbs, plugs, filters, whatever. I'll muddle through this year, but I'll be watching the season end closeouts that should start before too long. I know everybody has their favorite and most hated brands, but I've had decent experiences so far with Ryobi. What I'm not sure of is between 40V and 80V that some brands offer.

And I don't understand package pricing. I see one package with a 21" mower, string trimmer and one charge and battery for $400, but I also see a mower with battery and charger for $250 and a trimmer with battery and charger for $150 which means I could get the mower, trimmer, two batteries and two chargers for the same $400.


But I'm still not convinced battery mowers have the guts of gassers for taller grass. I use the two riders and SCUT for most everything, so the battery pusher would just be for trimming smaller areas.

I have no experience with battery mowers, but plenty with gas mowers. I had the same problem as you until I started using ethanol free gas after my last carburetor replacement. The fuel is expensive, but I only use about 20 gallons per season.

 

[jyoutz]

We went from a mostly free market economy to almost complete central planning over the course of a year.

From freedom to chose where and how much to work to you could work or not based on decisions made by the central planners. From you could travel where and when to strict control on who could travel and where and when determined by the central planners.

Unless we rid ourselves of the central planners get ready for extreme shortages and high inflation akin to Venezuela. It’s the natural result of the central planners. At least for the masses, never for themselves.

Huh? WTF? Time to quit watching infowars.

 

[Diggin It]

This super package kit is making me crazy(er).

40V 21" Self Propelled, dual blade crosscut mower
18" Chainsaw
26" Hedge Trimmer
Carbon Fiber shaft string trimmer
190MPH Blower
All brushless
3 (or 4) batteries .... need to clarify that.
2 Chargers

If I'm adding it up right, the items total up to around $1500. The package is priced at $1128 and the 10% discount makes it $1013

On top of that, I just got a postcard in the mail for 18 months no interest on $1,000, so I'd have a year and a half to pay for it all.

I don't really need another string trimmer since I already have one (not the carbon shaft though), but it's essentially free in the package, as is the blower. I could sell those and make some of my money back.

 

[Grumpycat]

Piecing it together with EGo tools at Lowes I find similar for $1406. But you don’t have to take what you do not want.

$599 for the mower with 56v 7.5 Ah battery.
$369 for 18” chainsaw and 5.0 Ah battery.
$299 for combo string trimmer and blower with (1) 2.5 Ah battery
$139 for hedge trimmer w/o battery.
(3) chargers

The 5.0 Ah battery is very useful in the lawnmower. All EGo batteries fit all EGo tools but the 5 and 7.5 are very heavy once you have tried the 2.5.

When comparing battery tools do not stop think after you see voltage. Voltage times amp-hours is the work capacity. 56 X 7.5 = 420 Wh. Is reasonable to assume all brushless electric motors are equally efficient +- the marketing lie factor.

 

[RalphVa]

This super package kit is making me crazy(er).

40V 21" Self Propelled, dual blade crosscut mower
18" Chainsaw
26" Hedge Trimmer
Carbon Fiber shaft string trimmer
190MPH Blower
All brushless
3 (or 4) batteries .... need to clarify that.
2 Chargers

If I'm adding it up right, the items total up to around $1500. The package is priced at $1128 and the 10% discount makes it $1013

On top of that, I just got a postcard in the mail for 18 months no interest on $1,000, so I'd have a year and a half to pay for it all.

I don't really need another string trimmer since I already have one (not the carbon shaft though), but it's essentially free in the package, as is the blower. I could sell those and make some of my money back.

Got all that plus a 48v Ryobi ZT. Just removed the blades/motors today and sharpened the blades. Ended up with a spring that dropped down from somewhere. Have no idea where it goes.

 

[Diggin It]

Both battery chargers have internal fans and are kind of noisy.

Got 2 6AH and 2 4AH batteries, plus the one 4AH I got with the trimmer last fall, so I should be good for a few tasks in a day.

This trimmer is the carbon fiber shaft and the one I already have is the standard version. I'll have to try them out to see which I'll prefer for the attachments tasks.

 

[Diggin It]

I don't understand their pricing.

40V 6Ah batteries are $199 each

The Rapid Charger is $119

199+199+119 = $517

Yet they have a 1500PSI pressure washer with two 6Ah batteries and rapid charger for $499

Basically buy two 6Ah batteries and Rapid charger and get the pressure washer free.


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They're also doing a post hole digger/auger with 8" diameter bit (Tool only) for $319, or $349 with 4Ah battery and charger, so for $30 you get $198 value battery and charger.

Always have been leery of one person augers due to the potential wrist, rib and hip damage of the gas versions if they bind. Kind of wonder if the battery version has some kind of safety ... the drills and saws will stop under heavy load.

 

[Grumpycat]

I don't understand their pricing.

40V 6Ah batteries are $199 each

The Rapid Charger is $119

199+199+119 = $517

Yet they have a 1500PSI pressure washer with two 6Ah batteries and rapid charger for $499

Basically buy two 6Ah batteries and Rapid charger and get the pressure washer free.

That is why I bought an EGo Backpack Blower. Came with 7.5AH battery and the fast charger (vs slow charger) for less than the battery alone.

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

Coal is burning somewhere to make those batteries charge.