Purchase concern

[HauntedBranch]

I am considering Montana, among other tractors, for purchase. With the upcoming change in suppliers, I am concerned that I will have an orphan machine with difficulty getting parts. I assume there will be more dealers with the change but parts is a worry. What are other's opinions on this issue?

Thanks,
Phil

 

[dex3361]

I am considering Montana, among other tractors, for purchase. With the upcoming change in suppliers, I am concerned that I will have an orphan machine with difficulty getting parts. I assume there will be more dealers with the change but parts is a worry. What are other's opinions on this issue?

Thanks,
Phil

Tractors are typically a long term purchase and it is wise to consider parts and service down the road. It definitely influenced my tractor purchase.

 

[LBrown59]

I am considering Montana, among other tractors, for purchase. With the upcoming change in suppliers, I am concerned that I will have an orphan machine with difficulty getting parts. I assume there will be more dealers with the change but parts is a worry. What are other's opinions on this issue?

Thanks,
Phil

So:
Then don't buy one !

 

[JDeerekid]

I highly doubt there will be difficulty getting parts for any montana tractors. The main reason is the companies that make the montana tractors also make tractors for many other tractor brands. For instance I can go get parts for my tractor at any montana, mccormick, LS, TYM, mahindra, branson, and some other brand dealers that I might be forgetting. Also the engine in my tractor is a Mitsubishi and the engine widely used in other machines.

So I would not be affraid to purchase another Montana. Of course if money was no issue I would probably go with a name brand such as JD, Kubota, or New Holland, but you pay for all the little extras like extra hydraulics, cabs, heat, A/C, lights, and stuff which comes standard on most Montana tractors.

What Model and size tractor are you looking at???

 

[HauntedBranch]

I have looked at the 2840 which suits me as to size and price. Can I count on LS dealers selling other brands providing parts?

Phil

 

[shakin]

ask you're dealer about this. my dealer is going to sell ls also on his lot so i am not concerned about my 2840 by the way it's a great powerful machine. ls is the company that makes the 2840 for montana and if you search the ls site it is still gonna be in their line up. where are you located?

 

[HauntedBranch]

The dealer has a McCormick CT28 which appear to be the same tractor under the skin although I am not knowledgeable enough to be sure. The engine is the same Mitsubishi. The McCormick is $2000 more. The dealer says when he gets new Montanas in they will be $1000 more than the $12900 he is quoting for the 2840 with loader.

Phil

 

[shakin]

i believe the mccormicks are ls built also that is a good price on the 2840. when the new ones come in they wont be the same they will be kukje built and red for a while until all the red sheet metal parts are gone.

 

[DavesTractor]

i believe the mccormicks are ls built also that is a good price on the 2840. when the new ones come in they wont be the same they will be kukje built and red for a while until all the red sheet metal parts are gone.

Kukje will continue to build and sell Branson, as well as selling tractors to Montana. So I don't think it is a matter of waiting "until all the red sheet metal is gone"...but maybe a matter of getting some tractors that are already built and in the USA (or in the pipeline) to Montana quickly.

From what I understand, Kukje will continue building Branson tractors, but I'm all ears if someone has solid info to the contrary.

 

[Unclebuck257]

I highly doubt there will be difficulty getting parts for any montana tractors. The main reason is the companies that make the montana tractors also make tractors for many other tractor brands. For instance I can go get parts for my tractor at any montana, mccormick, LS, TYM, mahindra, branson, and some other brand dealers that I might be forgetting. Also the engine in my tractor is a Mitsubishi and the engine widely used in other machines.

So I would not be affraid to purchase another Montana. Of course if money was no issue I would probably go with a name brand such as JD, Kubota, or New Holland, but you pay for all the little extras like extra hydraulics, cabs, heat, A/C, lights, and stuff which comes standard on most Montana tractors.

What Model and size tractor are you looking at???

Ditto on above!

 

[DavesTractor]

Ditto on above!

We are dealers for both Branson and Mahindra, and you would be hard pressed to find many Montana parts that are common to the current lines for these tractors.

However, I'd still not worry about Montana parts. They will be readily available I believe either through Montana or LS or others. Going forward with the Kukje Montana's, you'll have either Montana or Branson to go to for parts.

If your dealer is committed to the brand and not the kind that switches brands every year or two, then I wouldn't worry.

 

[HauntedBranch]

I exchanged e-mails with someone from LS Tractors yesterday and he said LS would supply parts for Montana tractors through Montana dealers or through LS. Of course, he said he thought an LS tractor would be a better purchase. Montanas have the better pricing at the moment, though. LS the better warranty.

Thanks for all the input.

Phil

 

[shakin]

dave that is the info my dealer gave me 2 weeks ago the montanas will be red until all of the red parts are gone. he is also a branson dealer and didn't say anything about branson's not being built anymore. he also talked with ls and will be selling the ls line of tractors as well as montana, branson, and tym.

 

[Reg]

Regardless of the paint, the underlying new Montanas will be Kukje.
(MANY) Parts will be interchangeable with existing Bransons, Centurys and SOME JDs.
Most of this is importer emblem engineering.
Yanmar, Cummins, Mitsubishi, Subaru engines also appear in several other brands.

The rosetta stone will be a handy thing to have.

 

[DavesTractor]

dave that is the info my dealer gave me 2 weeks ago the montanas will be red until all of the red parts are gone. he is also a branson dealer and didn't say anything about branson's not being built anymore. he also talked with ls and will be selling the ls line of tractors as well as montana, branson, and tym.

From what I understand, Montana has so far purchased less than 10 tractors from Kukje, which are basically the units at the shows. While your dealer may understand it as described, my sources are less confident that we are ever going to see green Kukje Montana's, and I'm not so sure we will even see many red ones.

However, if we put all the rumors together that we often hear regarding this brand and that brand, it would fill volumes of books. Let's just see what happens.

 

[HauntedBranch]

Can someone help me understand the reported declining number of Montana dealers? Is the company difficult to work with? Is it the consensus that the Montana doesn't have a future? I have heard only good reports about the machine and am having difficulty understanding the dealer issue.

Phil

 

[shakin]

would not be concerned about montana no matter who makes the machine some one will be around to look at it with ls dealers popping up and current branson dealers out there there is no real need to worry. dave i do have to say that he does not have any of the red montana's there only the limited one's, which would go along with you low # of units. unless i had the need for a bigger machine i would not swap my montana for any other brand, the dealer has been good and so was montana. i had a possible pto issue this summer and it turned out to be adjustment indside the case but montana had sent the parts to the dealer for replacement if needed no questions asked. i think the future is bright for montana and this move will someday show that it was a wise decision, i think montana is trying to get a bigger piece of the pie.

 

[Woodsman30350]

I agree with Haunted Branch. I think the quality of the Montana dealers in my state (Texas) is deteriorating. The two within 100 miles of my area are gone.

 

[DavesTractor]

I agree with Haunted Branch. I think the quality of the Montana dealers in my state (Texas) is deteriorating. The two within 100 miles of my area are gone.

It's a tough time to be a fairly new tractor brand, especially one that doesn't actually build any of their own tractors. While it is extremely common to outsource some of the models, Montana outsources them all, leaving them vulnerable. Montana has sold good tractors in the past and I would not worry about parts availability. If the Kukje deal pans out and they buy units from Branson, I'd not worry about that either. Montana did a fantastic job building brand recognition and selling good tractors. Now they need there best dealers to help them move aged inventory and to get things flowing again. If they can get over this hump, they should be in it for the long haul.

 

[wampum]

I have a landtrac 330HST with fel. I was wanting to up grade to about a 40 hp,or more. I have looked at all the main tractors almost jumped on a Kubota L4400HST,but the cost was almost $24000.00,and they would not take my 330 in on trade. I talked to a local Montana dealer,he has a R4944 HST fel R-4 tires,quick release bucket,for $14000.00 after rebates and allowing me $9000.00 on my 330. That's my tractor and $14000.00 out the door. I can not find an LS dealer close,there may be one just do not know of any. Also this week in the farm paper a dealer is selling brand new Landtracs at 40% off. He has a 390hst with loader for $14995.00 and will give me $7000.00 for my 330.That would be $8000.00 and my tractor.The 330 and 390 share the same frame,the 330 has the 3 cyl. Daewong and the 390 has the 4 cyl. Mitsibishi. Both the Montana and 390 are LS or LG's. I should be able to get parts for both through Montana or LS. I am leaning towards the R4944,because of the 47 HP,and a lot of features not on other tractors. I would buy the Kubota but selling my 330 does not look good. It has 465 hours on it but watching the local papers,auctions and ebay,it seems like 3500.00 is about all its worth. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Is the 47 HP to much power for that 4944 frame,will it hold up?