Pull behind trailer for B series tractors

[imajeepnut]

I noticed John Deere has a nice long utility trailer for use with their compact tractors.....looks real nice with AG tires..it may be a spreader now that I think of it. It is here at this link.... John Deere products for homeowners: Features for 2720 4WD Compact Tractor (31.4 hp)

Look at the 2720 compact tractor and View Larger images and you will see it. It reminds me of an old manure or litter spreader....and it seems like you can see a box (gear box) at the back of the trailer. At any rate...it's a nice trailer, and I would love to have one similar. Just thought I'd see if any of you had seen a Kubota trailer similar in fashion.

Thanks...

 

[Evil the Weasel]

It looks like a Frontier manure spreader. I bet it would work with other tractors too.

 

[imajeepnut]

You're right. I looked it up. I really liked the idea of a trailer that long and low for ease of loading... I don't need a manure spreader....but that live bed sure would be nice when it came time to unload sticks, firewood, dirt..etc.

 

[imajeepnut]

Well....we're both wrong...the one in the JD pic is made by Solex corp. The Model is H&S MS50 I think. Here is the link to the site.

Our Products - H & S - Manure Spreaders - MS50

I wonder if they would paint it orange....

 

[4Kings]

I've been considering a wagon from these folks. They look to be well made.

Horse Stalls and Horse Equipment by CMI Horse Stalls and Equipment, Ohio

 

[Machold]

I have a small 4 wheel wagon (TSC); I changed the draw bar to heavier & longer in order to be able to back up without jack-knifing too badly. Anybody have any ideas on length of drawbar or how to back up a 4 wheeler without jack-knifing? I think my wagon container is less than 60". Going to the site in 4Kings post, I don't see that the drawbars are that much longer.

 

[taborekle]

I bought a Mustang trailer of this type (see attachment). The GVWR of the trailer is about 2500 lbs, so I can load the B2920 onto it and tow it places.

It's a little on the large size, but I can put a tow ball on the tow bar and pull it behind the tractor. Having a flat bed on it means that I can scoop off dirt or compost with the FEL.

I've built 4 foot high fence rails for the sides and back and have piled it high with a neighboors belongings.

Larry

 

[imajeepnut]

This little setup looks handy to me....wonder what the price is...

NovaJack

Dump bed, or remove it and load logs. The bed would surely be handy.

 

[thavil]

I have a Millcreek manure spreader that I use for more than just spreading manure. The low profile is really nice while loading it. Only problem is that it is red instead of orange. The floor is made of poly and the sides have a urethane lining so I don't have to worry about scratching it and then worrying about rust later.

 

[imajeepnut]

Seems to me a manure spreader could be used to unload dirt too?? Can you disengage the "beater bar or upper throw" and just let the track in the bed unload the material? Especially if it is PTO driven.

 

[Machold]

Since we're talking about pull behind trailers, anyone have any ideas how to improve back-up ability of 4 wheel dump cart? I've lengthened the draw bar, helps a little but it still jack-knifes after a bit.

 

[NIdaho]

I will throw in my 2 cents worth.

Years ago my dad built up a small ~4x6 trailer to haul his ATV over to our lake place in Montana. He started with one of those cheap kits but by the time he was done I don't think he used anything beyond the hubs, wheels and tires. He had expanded metal ramps that attached to the back, and an extra long tongue made of about 2.5" or 3" box tube (extra heavy wall). He also put 12-15" sides on the trailer. The Polaris 4x4 fit inside and he would pull it behind his pickup. Once over at the lake property, we unload the ATV and then used the trailer behind the ATV. We would round it up with tamrack firewood, haul brush, limbs stumps, gravel,..... This little trailer proved to be incredibly useful. When it was time to go back home, we would hitch the trailer back up to the pickup, load the ATV and head back home to Idaho.

As for it wanting to jack-knife -- the extra-long tongue makes a world of difference (further back the axle is from the hitch (pivot point) the easier it will be to back). Don't lengthen the draw-bar on the tractor (doesn't help), but lengthen the trailer's tongue as it will make a big difference. The other thing is the extremely short wheel base of the ATV compounds the problem.

On the other hand, if you use very small adjustments in your steering it can be done. In all of the use of our set-up at the lake place, my son and daughter learned how to back a trailer. Now put them in a pickup with a boat or travel trailer (or my big tandem axle utility trailer) and they can back it with ease. You should see some of the looks they used to get at the boat ramps from older guys when this teenage boy or girl would back around other rigs, down the ramp, then back the boat trailer into a parking spot. It always amazes me how many people can not back a boat trailer up.

 

[thavil]

Seems to me a manure spreader could be used to unload dirt too?? Can you disengage the "beater bar or upper throw" and just let the track in the bed unload the material? Especially if it is PTO driven.

Haven't tried to unload dirt yet but it should work. Mine isn't PTO driven, so I would be unloading dirt while driving around. The Millcreek brand has two separate arms to engage the beater bar and the track to move the stuff rearward.

 

[BXpanded]

Since we're talking about pull behind trailers, anyone have any ideas how to improve back-up ability of 4 wheel dump cart? I've lengthened the draw bar, helps a little but it still jack-knifes after a bit.

Practice, practice, practice!
There is no way to make it easy... 4 wheel wagons are just inherently difficult to back. You can back one with some difficulty with a tractor but it's an absolute nightmare with a long wheel base truck.

 

[bigdad]

I bought a wagon kit from Northern Tool that has worked out pretty well for me. 2200 lbs. 4 foot by (up to) 8 feet. I just built a wooden box for it and welded a ball receiver on it the tongue. Low speed for local use. I did have to replace the wheel bearings.
Oh yes...... I CAN'T back it. Ha!

 

[Machold]

Thanks for for nice rep;y! Nice story; and, yes, I meant to say, tongue, instead of drawbar. I have lengthened it and it does work better but not almost perfectly.

I will throw in my 2 cents worth.

As for it wanting to jack-knife -- the extra-long tongue makes a world of difference (further back the axle is from the hitch (pivot point) the easier it will be to back). Don't lengthen the draw-bar on the tractor (doesn't help), but lengthen the trailer's tongue as it will make a big difference. The other thing is the extremely short wheel base of the ATV compounds the problem.

 

[pdowling1]

I would reconsider using a manure spreader for dirt. You are going to destroy the unloader mechanism that way. Dirt is MUCH heavier than any kind of manure, and it will just break the thing up, unless you keep the load only a few inches deep. (Been there, broke it right away, fixed it, broke it right away......get the idea?)
As far as backing a wagon is concerned, it just takes practice, and small steering adjustments. If you want a real challenge, try backing TWO wagons at once!

 

[nh DRAGON]

I would reconsider using a manure spreader for dirt. You are going to destroy the unloader mechanism that way. Dirt is MUCH heavier than any kind of manure, and it will just break the thing up, unless you keep the load only a few inches deep. (Been there, broke it right away, fixed it, broke it right away......get the idea?)
As far as backing a wagon is concerned, it just takes practice, and small steering adjustments. If you want a real challenge, try backing TWO wagons at once!

Yeah! I was thinking the same thing. If you would like to get one of these for the fact that it is on the low side and easy to load than that is cool!
but you will want to think of anther way of unloading it. Could get a 12v. dump for it instead.