PTO questions

[Covfam]

Hello Im looking at a JD3720 cab & Bobcat CT440 Cab & Mahindra 4510 Cab Tractors, and one of my many uses besides snow blowing,Hay baling with a mini baler, brush cutting, is to have a 30+hp PTO generator to keep my animal's water trough as well as my house powered during winter power outages.

From what ive read some of the tractor manufacturers have a PTO cut off switch in thier seats, would those prevent me from a pto generator without me in the tractor? If so do either of these 3 have this automatic shut off?

forgive me im pretty new at this so you shall find more newb questions because when i need to buy something $20-30k i ask ALOT of dumb questions. i only want to do this once for a very long time

 

[TripleR]

I don't know about the models mentioned, but with my Kubotas there is a procedure which allows use of the PTO while you are not present. I don't think you can do this with the JD, but may with the others.

 

[9973720wb19]

I have a JD 3720 cab and you can use any of the PTOs without being on the seat. I do this all the time with my rear PTO chipper. You just need to follow a few safty steps...like put in N, etc.

 

[Covfam]

I have a JD 3720 cab and you can use any of the PTOs without being on the seat. I do this all the time with my rear PTO chipper. You just need to follow a few safty steps...like put in N, etc.

What other saftey steps? so am i able to do this without jimmy rigging stuff.... i dont like to jimmy rig things ever.

 

[ddivinia]

What other saftey steps? so am i able to do this without jimmy rigging stuff.... i dont like to jimmy rig things ever.

Standard stuff - JD includes it in the owners manual

On my JD 4520. I have to have the parking brake set and be off the seat to engage the PTO.

D.

 

[kennyd]

I have a JD 3720 cab and you can use any of the PTOs without being on the seat. I do this all the time with my rear PTO chipper. You just need to follow a few safty steps...like put in N, etc.

What other saftey steps? so am i able to do this without jimmy rigging stuff.... i dont like to jimmy rig things ever.

The JD has a procedure for the REAR PTO only to be operated off-seat. The Mid-PTO can never be operated off-seat unless the seat switch is modified.

Here is a link to the online manual: OMLVU20031_L8

 

[Covfam]

Thanks for the info that helps alot!, like i said im a newb and not very mechanicly inclined so i never jimmy ricking things and i read another post earlier about how people would byepass the autoshutoff by rewiring and other stuff, i did not want to do that just to use the Rear PRO generator.

Like i said my jobs that ill need the tractor are for snowblowing/plowing, rough cut mowing along fenceline, pulling a star Mini Baler, and other haying implements, Fence post digging, boxgrading and a 30hp PTO generator.

THE JD3720 cab is nearlt 1,000lbs than the mahindra 4510 cab and the bobcat ct440 cab tractors. for the jobs i listed above does that 1,000lbs make any difference? to be honest if it doesnt ,the JD would be easier on my half ton truck to pull on the trailer since the nearest dealer of anykind is 60 miles away except cub cadet wich im not interested because they only have a cheap dealer bolt on cab & not a from the factory Cab.

next question is JD lists the 3720 Cab, 3520cab,3320 Cab all at the same 3,700lbs, how can that be? wouldnt the bigger engines weigh more?, if not is there a real advantage of the JD3720 cab over the JD3520 Cab for the jobs i listed above since they both have strong enough PTO for my needs?

 

[kennyd]

next question is JD lists the 3720 Cab, 3520cab,3320 Cab all at the same 3,700lbs, how can that be? wouldnt the bigger engines weigh more?, if not is there a real advantage of the JD3720 cab over the JD3520 Cab for the jobs i listed above since they both have strong enough PTO for my needs?

They have the same engines, just different turbo's and injectors IIRC, also probably different ECU programs.

I also don't think the 3x20 series is suited for bailing/haying work short of pulling a wagon or a rake. But I am certainly no expert in that area.

 

[ddivinia]

Hello Im looking at a JD3720 cab & Bobcat CT440 Cab & Mahindra 4510 Cab Tractors, and one of my many uses besides snow blowing,Hay baling with a mini baler, brush cutting, is to have a 30+hp PTO generator to keep my animal's water trough as well as my house powered during winter power outages.

From what ive read some of the tractor manufacturers have a PTO cut off switch in thier seats, would those prevent me from a pto generator without me in the tractor? If so do either of these 3 have this automatic shut off?

forgive me im pretty new at this so you shall find more newb questions because when i need to buy something $20-30k i ask ALOT of dumb questions. i only want to do this once for a very long time

How much baling and mowing do you plan on doing?

I would thinking a 4320 cab or so would be a better fit.

D.

 

[Covfam]

Cutting/baling 3 acres with a Star mini round baler (6 acres of field that ill be rotating cutting/grazing on) Total property is 9 acres with 6 of it the field.

THis is the linky to the Mini baler Compact and Mini Round Baler

 

[Gittyup]

That little baler is cute! Should be no problem for any of the tractors being considered.

 

[RoyJackson]

What other saftey steps? so am i able to do this without jimmy rigging stuff.... i dont like to jimmy rig things ever.

You don't have to "jimmy rig" anything. There is a specific procedure described in the operator's manual for the 3720.
The only Deeres that don't have factory off seat operation are the 3032e and the 3038e.
May be others, but those are the only two I know of.

 

[deputy11]

It is easy to use the rear pto when out of the cab on my 3520. As mentioned, put it in N, apply parking brake, and pull up on the pto knob while OFF the seat. As mentioned before, the mid mount pto can't be used while the operator is off the seat. By the way, the AC is great in this record heat we have been having and I would think that for baling hay the cab would be really nice.

 

[Covfam]

That little baler is cute! Should be no problem for any of the tractors being considered.

its from japan, and i didnt need anything bigger for my small hobbyfarm, and we are going to only have 1 horse, 1 guard llama, and a few sheep (my wife wants to spin her own yarn) if im lucky we get a dairy goat as well, so i dont need great huge bales of hay and where im at its hard to find reliable good hay to be delivered. so im gonna do it myself, and frankly i want the smallest cab tractor i can to do the job, i dont wish to take up my whole farm with large buildings for everything if i dont have too.

 

[Gittyup]

its from japan, and i didnt need anything bigger for my small hobbyfarm, and we are going to only have 1 horse, 1 guard llama, and a few sheep (my wife wants to spin her own yarn) if im lucky we get a dairy goat as well, so i dont need great huge bales of hay and where im at its hard to find reliable good hay to be delivered. so im gonna do it myself, and frankly i want the smallest cab tractor i can to do the job, i dont wish to take up my whole farm with large buildings for everything if i dont have too.

I did not know they made round balers that small. Pretty neat for small operations

I think the Kubota B3030 is about the smallest factory cab tractor and I don't see it having a problem with that baler. It's a very nice setup for snow and mowing. Or, I think Bobcat has a similar sized factory cab unit too. Of course the JD3520 is also pretty sweet.

 

[ddivinia]

its from japan, and i didnt need anything bigger for my small hobbyfarm, and we are going to only have 1 horse, 1 guard llama, and a few sheep (my wife wants to spin her own yarn) if im lucky we get a dairy goat as well, so i dont need great huge bales of hay and where im at its hard to find reliable good hay to be delivered. so im gonna do it myself, and frankly i want the smallest cab tractor i can to do the job, i dont wish to take up my whole farm with large buildings for everything if i dont have too.

Why not get a small square baler?

D.

 

[Covfam]

Why not get a small square baler?

D.

Fro wherever ive looked the small square balers that make the under 60lb bales all cost nearly double the price, $15,500 for small square baler that needs under 30hp pto, The mini round baler in the size i want is lil over $8grand brand new and is pulled directly behind me instead off to the side.

ill be honest if there are any decent small square balers for nearly the same price or better than the Star mini baler im all up for it and id appreciate a linky to it

 

[ddivinia]

Offset square balers not a big issue. You are right on new prices.

Resale and parts on that mini round baler might be an issue.

D.