PTO Problem NT 204

[COJON]

I have just purchased a nortrac 204. I am having trouble keeping the PTO in low gear. When I attach an implement the control handle begins to vibrate and jumps into neutral. The high speed runs just fine. If nothing is attached the low speed operates just fine. Can I access the PTO gears by removing the pto cover. there are two covers, the PTO and one above it. There is one gasket which goes under both covers Any ideas about what might be wrong??

I have just purchased a Nortrac 204. It only has 3 hours on it. I am having trouble with keeping the PTO in low speed. When I connect a implement and put the PTO in low speed the speed control handle begins to vibrate and it jumps into neutral. the high speed operates perfectly. If there is no implement attached the low speed runs fine. Can I access the PTO gears By removing The Pto cover plate?? There are 2 plates on the rear, the plate that holds the PTO in place and one just above it, there is one gasket for both plates. ANY IDEAS??

 

[greg_g]

Over-applied paint has been known to collect on the bottom of that lever. There's a history of the excess paint actually stopping full travel of the lever into the 540 position. Inspect first, then remove as required. See if that helps before you start pulling other stuff off

//greg//

 

[Ranch_Hand_Supp]

I have just purchased a nortrac 204. I am having trouble keeping the PTO in low gear. When I attach an implement the control handle begins to vibrate and jumps into neutral. The high speed runs just fine. If nothing is attached the low speed operates just fine. Can I access the PTO gears by removing the pto cover. there are two covers, the PTO and one above it. There is one gasket which goes under both covers Any ideas about what might be wrong??

I have just purchased a Nortrac 204. It only has 3 hours on it. I am having trouble with keeping the PTO in low speed. When I connect a implement and put the PTO in low speed the speed control handle begins to vibrate and it jumps into neutral. the high speed operates perfectly. If there is no implement attached the low speed runs fine. Can I access the PTO gears By removing The Pto cover plate?? There are 2 plates on the rear, the plate that holds the PTO in place and one just above it, there is one gasket for both plates. ANY IDEAS??

The vibration does not sound right to me, You say you can feel it go into that speed ?

You will have to remove the lift box to see .........

Look here under 254LE PTO
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Let us know

Ronald
Ranch Hand Supply

 

[COJON]

Thanks will check for excess paint!! If I don't have an implement attached the slow speed seems to run just fine!! Yes I can feel the gears engage but then it starts vibrating and jumps out of gear!! Again if an implement is not attached the PTO will run smoothly at the low speed.

 

[Ranch_Hand_Supp]

It vibrates with any PTO driven attachment?

It starts vibrating when you start increasing rpm??, as soon as you engage the pto?, start using the pto??

Ronald
Ranch Hand Supply

 

[COJON]

Ranch Hand It starts vibrating when I use the slow speed. I can run the pto in high speed (1000 rpm) and the implement will operate fine It does not jump out of gear at high speed. At low speed I have trouble engaging the gear then it will start to turn, then vibration, then it jumps to netural but I can then put it into high speed and it operates just fine. If I don't have the brush hog attached I can operate the low speed Pto and it turns fine.

 

[Ranch_Hand_Supp]

Ranch Hand It starts vibrating when I use the slow speed. I can run the pto in high speed (1000 rpm) and the implement will operate fine It does not jump out of gear at high speed. At low speed I have trouble engaging the gear then it will start to turn, then vibration, then it jumps to netural but I can then put it into high speed and it operates just fine. If I don't have the brush hog attached I can operate the low speed Pto and it turns fine.

COJON, you can contact me through my web site if you choose with a phone number and a time and I will give you a call.

Jinma Dealer, Ranch Hand Supply , Compact Jinma Tractors

Ronald
Ranch Hand Supply

 

[Soundguy]

With the tractor turned off..check this: is there any in/out play on the pto shaft stub?

Soundguy

Ranch Hand It starts vibrating when I use the slow speed. I can run the pto in high speed (1000 rpm) and the implement will operate fine It does not jump out of gear at high speed. At low speed I have trouble engaging the gear then it will start to turn, then vibration, then it jumps to netural but I can then put it into high speed and it operates just fine. If I don't have the brush hog attached I can operate the low speed Pto and it turns fine.

 

[COJON]

Sound guy---- tried the PTO no play up or down, no play in or out, and no play side to side!!

 

[Affordable]

It's engaging in the 1000 OK and not the 540 ? have you tried holding it in the 540 with your hand or a rubber strap ? we had a few that were miss drilled where the check slice is (the piece with the ball detent ) not allowing it to fully engage

Tommy
Affordable Tractor Sales

 

[COJON]

Tommy, I have tried to hold the control lever in gear with the bush hog attached. the pto will start to turn then jump into neutral. I can then put the lever into the high speed and it runs fine. I had been using The bush hog in low speed before this started occuring. What is so strange is that if an implement is not attached I can put the PTO in low speed and it turns just fine. Do the PTO shaft gears ever get stripped?

 

[johnk]

Make sure the ball bearing is in the bottom of the linkage. The shaft with the 540/1000 rpm moves in and out sideways and possible the ball bearing detent ball fell out..

 

[bluechip]

You may need to take the lift box off and look at the PTO drive gears at the very rear of the differential housing. It is heavy so use a hoist or get extra help. We have had a few 200 series JInmas in the past that PTO would not stay engaged, but all could be held in by hand pressure or bungee cord on the speed selector lever. The shift fork that selects the speed may be bent, or the cogs that engage the 540 gear set may be damaged. Unfortunately there is only so much diagnosis that can be done from outside the castings.

 

[COJON]

I assume I will have to drain the hydralic lift box if I am to remove the box. I had used the 540 speed with the implement on for over 2 hours before this happened. If I take the implement off it will engage in the 540 and the PTO shaft will turn smoothly without jumping out of gear. All detent balls are in place and the speed lever goes back far enough to engage. I think the shift fork may have gotten bent so the low speed gear is not fully engaging or some teeth may have been knocked off the one of the low speed gears. What do I have to remove from the lift box in order that I can lift it off? I do have an engine hoist that I can use to lift it off. Thanks to every one for all your help!!!

 

[bluechip]

Remove the seat and the hydraulic lines, drain the oil and unbolt and lift off, you will have to diconnect the vertical links and top link off the 3 point also. ONce you have it off you can see inside, might have to drain down the transmission oil to see the gears and shift linkages clearly.