PTO Alignment Technique

[ritcheyvs]

Connecting 3PT implements on mt DK45S is pretty easy except for the final PTO connection, specifically aligning the splines on the tractor's PTO output shaft with the splines in the CV joint yoke. The tractor shaft is too stiff to turn by hand and turning the PTO shaft on the implement is only a little easier. Sometimes I use an iron bar through the CV yoke to turn the PTO assembly.

Question: Do the veterans out there know any tricks to make this final connection any easier?

 

[mguitas]

I take the shaft on an off the allis charmer 170 all the time, unless the pto is engage you should be able to turn the spline by hand. Even the 1423 you can move also.

 

[kco]

I take the shaft on an off the allis charmer 170 all the time, unless the pto is engage you should be able to turn the spline by hand. Even the 1423 you can move also.

Not so on a Kioti DK. It will only rotate easily about 1/ 8 turn counterclockwise. But it will turn more with force. For instance, I can turn mine by stepping on the auger of the connected snowblower. So perhaps it is some braking mechanism as others have mentioned?

So I'm interested in any suggestions too.

My previous Kubota turned freely like you said.

 

[steve0413]

I can easily turn the tractor shaft enough to align the splines on my DK45 90% of the time. If it won't align, I'll jump in the tractor, turn the PTO on then off. Most times it will then align. In the rare cases where it doesn't, I just repeat the on/off.

 

[Jim Shooz]

My BX2350 has two PTOs. One out the rear and the other straight down for a Mid-Mounted Mower (which I never use). By changing the drive to the MMM I can rotate the rear PTO shaft freely.

 

[ritcheyvs]

Well, I've had recent occasion to remove and install attachments. First, with my DL45 I can only turn the output shaft about 1/2 tooth by hand. The technique is to hold the U-joint against the PTO output shaft with my left hand and reach from below with my right hand and turn the splined shaft. If that doesn't align the splines (and it seldom does) I need to turn the PTO shaft but I cannot move it with my bare hands. What works best (so far) is to stick a BIG screwdriver through the U-joint and use that leverage to turn the shaft slightly; it doesn't take much. I also keep a greasy old pair of work gloves on the tractor for this job.

I will say that the telescoping lower arms on the DK45 are really make this job easy. This is a nice feature.

 

[DK35vince]

The PTO shaft will not turn because of the PTO brake. Makes hooking up implements difficult.
I added a overrunning clutch to my tractors PTO shaft to solve the problem. Makes hooking up implements SO much easier.

 

[strum456]

I have seen John Deere tractors that had to be shut off for the pto shaft to be turned easily.

 

[MotorSeven]

I use the screw driver trick like Ritch if the implement is hard to turn, but 90% of the time I just turn them by hand. I find this part pretty easy compared to my neighbors JD implements that have that scchhstupid ring collar that take two hands to pull back while trying to shove the whole assembly forward onto the splines. Whoever came up with that design needs to be slapped with a greasy glove:laughing:.

 

[Oaktree]

I find this part pretty easy compared to my neighbors JD implements that have that scchhstupid ring collar that take two hands to pull back while trying to shove the whole assembly forward onto the splines. Whoever came up with that design needs to be slapped with a greasy glove:laughing:.

I'll second that! Especially when you have big hands trying to get 'em both inside that PTO shield to release that collar!

 

[aczlan]

I use the screw driver trick like Ritch if the implement is hard to turn, but 90% of the time I just turn them by hand. I find this part pretty easy compared to my neighbors JD implements that have that scchhstupid ring collar that take two hands to pull back while trying to shove the whole assembly forward onto the splines. Whoever came up with that design needs to be slapped with a greasy glove:laughing:.

Not sure if the collar you push back,or the collar you have to rotate is worse...
Give me a pushbutton latch any day.

Aaron Z

 

[Gregster613]

I third all of the above!! All of my implements have the stuuuupid round-lock collar to try and hold back whilst attempting to push pto shaft forwards. Very fustrating indeed!! What ever happened to the old style of push pin collars? Are they even made anymore? I remember that style as being waaay easier to hook up. Greg

 

[deezler]

My new PTO shaft from agri-supply has the push button... slid on like butter last night. And only $69 !! Quality "appears" the same as units costing twice as much.

 

[Marveltone]

Not sure if the collar you push back,or the collar you have to rotate is worse...
Give me a pushbutton latch any day.

Aaron Z

All of mine are the stupid push back collars. They just happen to be what was supplied with the implements and I'm too cheap to replace them. At least my PTO shaft spins freely.

Joe