Propane Prices

[sweettractors]

Ken... If you got a handle on your fuel costs (propane), you could sell your implements even cheaper.....lol:thumbsup:

I am working on it. I got the revised/corrected statement last week and it was wrong. When we called initially, the lady said they were going to reduce price per gallon to $1.49 and there would be no late charge. Well, it came in at $1.79 and with a late fee. I called this time and they said they would only go down to $1.59 and no late fee and re bill us. Here we go again !! Ken Sweet

 

[ultrarunner]

I'd switch to bio-mass, wood pellets or shelled corn. The break on pellets is $1.65 per 40 pound bag compared to propane for BTU yield.. Of course you'd have a one time cost of a biomass stove / furnace and venting but equalized out over the projected life of the unit....about 25 years, the cost is minimal.

I just paid 96 cents a gallon delivered. to my back 500 gallon tank. My front one has stayed valved off all winter.

Don'r see the fuel cost increasing much net year either.

Nest time you are in Austria, I'll take a pair of Swarovski 10 x 40 EL Range Bino's...lol I have a pair of 10-40 EL's but I want a pair of the rangefinding ones.

It's a 1960 Tahoe cabin... putting in any wood burning anything is near impossible... good to know the break even point for other places... seems the wood burning bans follow me... SF Bay Area, Tahoe and even Olympia Washington have had burn restrictions or outright bans.

So far Austria is OK...

Never visited Swarovski... have had company take the tour and browse... one of the ladies loved it... her husband complained she blew the travel budget!

My Binoculars are old... Bosch and Lomb and Zeiss....

 

[5030]

Bio-mass has no particulate emissions restrictions unlike chunk wood stoves do now. Bio-mass stoves average 93% efficiency with almost no stack emissions. You can ocassionally get a whiff of a wood smell but thats it.

All biomass stoves / furnaces are completely computer controlled so incoming combustion air, fuel feed and ehaust is constantly momitored. They all pass the most stringent emissions mandates handily.

None have catalytic conversion, don't need it. All are gasifiers, they burn and reburn the volitale gasses above the fuel bed. I like mine. I've been running one for at least 10 years, well up until this year because propane is below the brek price but, it's there when I need it. Mine is 60K btu output, thermostatically controlled.

 

[ultrarunner]

Always something new to learn...

I wonder what the local governing board has on this... they actually have roving smoke police with tipster numbers to report your neighbors plus a bounty on each chimney and wood stove retired.

The restrictions apply to solid fuel...

Is Biomass considered solid fuel?

http://www.baaqmd.gov/~/media/Files/Planning and Research/Rules and Regs/reg 06/rg0603.ashx

 

[bumperm]

We are on autofill... when I shut down the tank for the season it was at 79%

Bi State just topped it off and the cost per gallon with fees and taxes is $4.40

Wow . . . I can't remember ever paying that much, do they charge Lake Tahoe users more 'cause they have to haul it up there?

I typically call two or three dealers to get the best price, sometimes I shop for a couple of my neighbors at the same time. Universal, Comstock, are two of several companies I call. I do not give any company the price quoted by another, and I pay the driver on delivery so they don't have to bill me. I remind them of that when I'm shopping.

I think the propane companies *love* their rental tanks and keep filled agreements, stifles competition - but I would not ever go that way again.

 

[ultrarunner]

We own the tank so no restrictions there on the 500 gallons.

Same gas supplier for decades and then the name seems to change every couple of years... natural gas is now nearby but all of last year we had almost no usage... so it didn't seem cost effective to switch...

My Grandmother had lots of friends in Gardnerville and I would tag along on visits... seems like a very long time ago...

Both Dad and brother worked for the VanSickles... an old Nevada/Tahoe family...

What are they charging for propane in Gardnerville?

 

[5030]

Always something new to learn...

I wonder what the local governing board has on this... they actually have roving smoke police with tipster numbers to report your neighbors plus a bounty on each chimney and wood stove retired.

The restrictions apply to solid fuel...

Is Biomass considered solid fuel?

http://www.baaqmd.gov/~/media/Files/Planning and Research/Rules and Regs/reg 06/rg0603.ashx

Biomass is considered processed low moisture fuel (typically 5% or less by volume). Refer to your 6-3-214, 6-3-308 and especially 6-3-404.2 They are alll exempt under Federal regulations and none exceed 20% opacity at anytime. Most times, no visible particulates at all.

In your scenario, I'd be taking a hard look at say a United States Stove (USSC) 6039 or 6041 HF stand alone gasifier. I run a 39 myself. Pretty turn key. There are some anthracite coal stoves (auto stokers running pea coal) that are also exempt. No way would I pay that much for propane.

 

[5030]

Michigan refused to adopt the Federal standards for chunk wood burning appliances. Thats all people in the upper peninsula use for heat.

 

[Ford850]

We are on autofill... when I shut down the tank for the season it was at 79%

Bi State just topped it off and the cost per gallon with fees and taxes is $4.40

They topped it off when you were at 79%?

 

[ddb123]

I paid $1.49 per gallon when they filled me up at the end of fall. This has been my warmest and most comfortable winter since I bought my house!

 

[ultrarunner]

They topped it off when you were at 79%?

Yep... had even left a note with date I turned off for the season and fill percent.

Filled me up with 13 gallons... it was 36 degrees on the day when they filled... mid 60's when I recorded fill percent.

After two bear incidents and loosing 400 gallons I now shut off the tank when leaving... only problem is I'm the only one that will turn it on and light all the pilots...

 

[Ford850]

Yep... had even left a note with date I turned off for the season and fill percent.

Filled me up with 13 gallons... it was 36 degrees on the day when they filled... mid 60's when I recorded fill percent.

After two bear incidents and loosing 400 gallons I now shut off the tank when leaving... only problem is I'm the only one that will turn it on and light all the pilots...

Amazing. Must be they were out there so they topped it off no matter what. 13 gallons delivered has to qualify for the highest pricing. On a 500 gallon tank, that would get you to 81% or so.

 

[ultrarunner]

I told them we were good and company said they have to check twice a year to keep auto-fill...

It's always been at a premium... even when we lost it all and put 400 gallons in one drop.

 

[5030]

Always keep in mind that the absolute best time to refill a tank is when it's bitter cold out. Liquid propane, like any liquid is proportionally more dense, the colder it is so you get more per gallon delivered when it's cold than when it's warm outside.

 

[NoTrespassing]

99 cents per gallon here in Central Illinois today! I said "FILL ME UP"! I should need about 350 gallons and with any luck it will last me until next July. Getting away with only spending $30 per month on propane makes me happy!

Kevin

 

[teejk]

99 cents per gallon here in Central Illinois today! I said "FILL ME UP"! I should need about 350 gallons and with any luck it will last me until next July. Getting away with only spending $30 per month on propane makes me happy!

Kevin

Summer fill price is 97cents. Around here the deadline is approaching for locking in for the upcoming heating season. "Pre-buy" price is $1.14. "Cap" price is $1.44 (you pay $70 to get into that option, pay market but price will not exceed the cap). Always a tough call because we don't know how much will be needed for grain drying and we don't know how cold it is going to be. I have been pre-buying but last year it would have been better to have capped because the prices stayed below the pre-pay price and the "cap" never came into play. Just never know.

 

[Pixguy]

I called our supplier yesterday for a price to fill up our 500gal tank (we own) and she said $1.69gal. I'm waiting a while because last year I filled up in August at 1.99 and prices dropped further in the fall.

 

[jack707]

I have to top mine off.

 

[NoTrespassing]

I called our supplier yesterday for a price to fill up our 500gal tank (we own) and she said $1.69gal. I'm waiting a while because last year I filled up in August at 1.99 and prices dropped further in the fall.

Have you checked other suppliers in your area? My dad has his own tank and said they varied from 0.89 - 1.40 in his area.

 

[teejk]

Have you checked other suppliers in your area? My dad has his own tank and said they varied from 0.89 - 1.40 in his area.

So many variables in pricing. Around here many people are switching to natgas if they can get it and after the shortage a few years ago ($5+ if you could get it) suppliers have added huge storage tanks. We have a lot of grain here that may or may not need to be dried depending on the fall weather so ample supply is critical...we also have a pretty good pipeline and rail system. Guessing none of those are true in NH so much of the cost is in the distribution.