Propane Heating cost

[AllWaysBreakinSomething]

If you want to know what you should be paying for propane or heating oil for your area check this link out. You can argue with your propane supplier if you find someone else in the area that will quote you close to what you see in this link for residential. Yes wholesale propane is half what your paying. It's all a game to make money on delivery.

Heating Oil and Propane Update

Also I have a wood stove in the basement. Key is to put it close to the outside door. Tell your wife it will keep the floors warm since it's in the basement. No heatpump or central furnance can do that. This is what my wife likes most on the cold nights. She asks me to get it started and welcomes the mess on the 5 feet of concrete from the door to the stove. She is a clean crazy woman on everything else.

 

[Highbeam]

When you install all of these propane appliances and then suddenly NG becomes available is it still no big deal to convert between the gasses? It used to be orifices and maybe a regulator change to go between the two. I happen to live in an area with development coming from all directions but for right now there is no gas main in the street for me and the gas company told me it was not available at this time. I like gas cooking and water heating, even as fuel for a generator.

It is too bad propane is so expensive to heat with. It is almost the same as electricity. I really don't like cooking on an electric range, the wife and I were laughing at the tea kettle dancing around on the flat glass cooktop last night. Totally retarded.

 

[Matt_W]

If you want to know what you should be paying for propane or heating oil for your area check this link out. You can argue with your propane supplier if you find someone else in the area that will quote you close to what you see in this link for residential. Yes wholesale propane is half what your paying. It's all a game to make money on delivery.

Heating Oil and Propane Update

Also I have a wood stove in the basement. Key is to put it close to the outside door. Tell your wife it will keep the floors warm since it's in the basement. No heatpump or central furnance can do that. This is what my wife likes most on the cold nights. She asks me to get it started and welcomes the mess on the 5 feet of concrete from the door to the stove. She is a clean crazy woman on everything else.

Thanks for the link! Alot of useful info there!

 

[bigtiller]

I read an article yesterday on how to determine if you are heating your house efficiently. Add all utilities that apply to heat your home. Convert them into BTU's. Divide the total BTU's by the total square foot of your home and then divide that by the "heating degree days" for your area. If the final answer is 10 or less you are doing pretty good. 10 to 20 you need to do some tightening up. If over 20 there is some serious air leaks going on.

 

[LBrown59]

When you install all of these propane appliances and then suddenly NG becomes available is it still no big deal to convert between the gasses? It used to be orifices and maybe a regulator change to go between the two. I happen to live in an area with development coming from all directions but for right now there is no gas main in the street for me and the gas company told me it was not available at this time. I like gas cooking and water heating, even as fuel for a generator.

It is too bad propane is so expensive to heat with. It is almost the same as electricity. I really don't like cooking on an electric range, the wife and I were laughing at the tea kettle dancing around on the flat glass cooktop last night. Totally retarded.

How does ot compare in price to home heating oil / fuel oil in your area?

 

[HomeBrew2]

How does ot compare in price to home heating oil / fuel oil in your area?

What the heck is *"home heating oil / fuel oil "* ???

 

[LBrown59]

What the heck is *"home heating oil / fuel oil "* ???

Around Here:
If you run it in your tractor or truck It's called Diesel Fuel.
If you use it to heat your house some people call it Home Heating Oil.
Other Folks call it Fuel Oil.
It's all the same stuff but people here base what they call it on what it's used in.
Hope this answers your question.

 

[Highbeam]

Oil in pretty much all areas will be cheaper than propane, today, for heating the home. But I like cooking on gas, heating water with gas, and possibly running a generator on gas. Heck, even the BBQ can be plumbed to the main service.

Oil heat is pretty uncommon here in the land of cheap hydropower and mild climate. They have some cool electric heat pumps now that even heat water.

 

[LBrown59]

Oil in pretty much all areas will be cheaper than propane, today, for heating the home. But I like cooking on gas, heating water with gas, and possibly running a generator on gas. Heck, even the BBQ can be plumbed to the main service.

Oil heat is pretty uncommon here in the land of cheap hydropower and mild climate. They have some cool electric heat pumps now that even heat water.

Although I have Natural Gas I'm thinking of going with a home heating oil or fuel oil stove in a 16 x 22 and a 12x22 stall in one of my pole buildings.
This may qualify me to get home delivery of off road diesel to run in my tractor.

 

[Highbeam]

Hmmm, do you think the fuel oil delivery guy gives a rat's butt whether or not you have an appliance to burn the oil he is delivering? Today's prices make oil look decently attractive and the boilers powered by oil are quite efficient.

 

[LBrown59]

Hmmm, do you think the fuel oil delivery guy gives a rat's butt whether or not you have an appliance to burn the oil he is delivering? .

That's not the Point I was trying to get across.
The suppliers here require a min 100 gallon purchase to deliver.
I don't use enough in my BX to warrant that large of a purchase.
My thinking was if I added heating the stall to what I burn in the tractor that may increase my usage enough to where it would be feasible to make the 100 gallon purchases.
Now do you understand where I'm coming from?

 

[AndyM]

That's not the Point I was trying to get across.
The suppliers here require a min 100 gallon purchase to deliver.
I don't use enough in my BX to warrant that large of a purchase.
My thinking was if I added heating the stall to what I burn in the tractor that may increase my usage enough to where it would be feasible to make the 100 gallon purchases.
Now do you understand where I'm coming from?

Sure, you would have the convenience of having off-road diesel fuel available for your tractor in large quantities, but you'd be paying more money heating your building with oil instead of natural gas.

Since you said yourself you would never use that much fuel in the tractor, it would be most cost effective to keep buying off-road diesel five or ten gallons at a time from the local guy, and heat the building with natural gas.

 

[rcaretti]

rcaretti, let me know what price you pay, and who you get it from. I was (am) dealing with Amerigas in Frederick. I' curious. I cannot find a descent deal on tanks?

Thanks,
Bill

I just filled up today (Aero). The tank gauge said 8 or 9% left and it took 389 gallons to fill it. I assume they leave some free space in the tank.

I paid $2.29 a gallon, which is the maximum I can pay with the price cap I signed up for in the fall.

I did have a hard time getting them to come up the 600+ foot gravel driveway. Even with 200 lbs of salt and some gravel I threw on the icy spots, they didn't like the looks of it. But they finally drove up it today.

Do you know any home builders? They may have an idea of who to call about a tank. Mine was originally installed by Aero Energy.

 

[bg71361]

rcaretti, thanks for the update. It appears my pricing is not that far off. I am in Montgomery Co. so there is an additional county tax they impose, I believe it is around $.09 a gallon.

I have seen some tanks for sale, but the cost is just outrageous, and I am not sure if the cost difference will ever offset, although i have not done any calculations. I think when you deal with a variable such as the cost of any type of fuel it is difficult.

I'll keep looking!
Thanks,
Bill