Pro union/Anti Union ?

/ Pro union/Anti Union ? #21  
Jeff - nice house - nice cars /w3tcompact/icons/tongue.gif.

This actually relates to the union conversation.......

Home schooling is managing your kids' education. The internet, as you might imagine, is thick with resources. We have a good resource locally, a private home schooling consulting business (<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.narsonline.com/>North Atlantic Regional School</A>), with which the boys are registered as soon as they reach "Jr High" level work. They carefully review their work, then award credits. Our oldest son had 8.5 high school credits before his 13th birthday - thanks to my wife's diligence and attention to their needs and strengths. There's a couple people signed up there who have basically shopped around and signed their kids up for classes at several high schools and colleges, as well as private lessons in music and sports. They are most definitely home schooled, but none of their courses are taught by their parents. They are managing their education.

Read your kids' books, and politely insert yourself into their schooling - which I am sure you are already doing in one way or another. You control their education; the school system is your subcontractor. Approach them with that confidence, but not belligerence. Individual teachers are generally concerned about the kids, but frustrated with bureaucracy, overwhelmed by social problems, discouraged from achievement and excellence by the unions, and pissed at selfish parents. You may have some institutional thinking to get through, but they are like any bureacracy: patience, politness and persistence pays off. Ooh, I used 3 P's! That should be easy to remember! /w3tcompact/icons/clever.gif/w3tcompact/icons/tongue.gif

The public school system is an assembly line of sorts, due in part to the evolution of the system into a huge, ponderous, and ineffective government cash sinkhole (kinda like Amtrak, and anything else the Fed gets its mitts on, huh?). Also due in part to the collectivist and adversarial nature of the unions, but mostly due to to irresponsible and indifferent parents, who say they care but consider money to be a replacement for face time. It is a business, like any other, and we must individually recognize and assume control of own kids' education, and direct the schools accordingly. Personal responsibility is the key - just like managing HMO's (yet another subject) - you get out what you put in.

I wanted to encourage you to keep thinking about your kids' education, and build it according to their needs and strengths. I also wanted to applaude and to publicly recognize you for declaring yourself a "stay at home Dad". Way to go, Jeff! You're probably nearly already home schooling, you just need to recognize it!

Maybe this needs to be a new post?
 
/ Pro union/Anti Union ? #22  
I'm a proud member of the Public Employees Federation (PEF), the second largest union consisting of white collar professionals in New York State. Our parent organization is the AFL-CIO.

What is unusual about PEF is we have no ability to strike...prohibited by the Taylor Law in New York State. Apart from this, we are a very vocal union organization and make our viewpoints on various issues known to members of our New York State Legislature and Governor Pataki. Through intense and proactive labor-management negotiations, we are able to achieve steady improvements in the terms of our labor contract with the State of New York.

Regards,
Bob Ancar
Cambridge, NY
 
/ Pro union/Anti Union ? #23  
Chuck,

I too am pro union, as when I asked my wife this evening about a re-union - she indicated it's too hot, so here I am.

Carl
 
/ Pro union/Anti Union ? #24  
Oooh Oooh - I shoulda thoughta that - it is hot, ain't it?

No union for me because I stayed at the PC for a few hours, away from the family, reading and writing to what my wife calls my girlfriends.
 
/ Pro union/Anti Union ? #25  
WOW!!!! This makes me proud of all the TBN'ers. What could have turned in to a bitter argument has been gracefully sidestepped by all. What a great bunch we have here./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif/w3tcompact/icons/cool.gif/w3tcompact/icons/clever.gif/w3tcompact/icons/love.gif
 
/ Pro union/Anti Union ? #26  
Current movie fare makes it kind of a hoot to be a Gold Member, doesn't it, BB?
 
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Thats the way I hoped it would happen,I had it all planned,Scott knows what he is doing./w3tcompact/icons/clever.gif................................../w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif........................................../w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
 
/ Pro union/Anti Union ? #29  
<font color=blue>"Thats the way I hoped it would happen,I had it all planned,Scott knows what he is doing."</font color=blue>

Yeah...right....you bet....sure! /w3tcompact/icons/eyes.gif

What's that old statement about having the Brooklyn Bridge for sale?? /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
 
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See Golfgar4 ..you even agree./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
Have a good day!!!!/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 
/ Pro union/Anti Union ? #31  
<font color=blue>"Have a good day!!!!"</font color=blue>

Thanks. It's gotta be a good day. Last day of work before I head off for my golfing birthday weekend! Lotsa golf, lotsa golf!!!! /w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif/w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif

Have a good one yourself Scott. Keep it down the middle! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 
/ Pro union/Anti Union ? #32  
Scott - You really got me going on this one......please make it stop!!!

Webster says a union is......An alliance or confederation of persons, parties, or political entities for mutual interest or advantage.

I guess TBN is really a union organization/w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif. I'll have to check with Muhammad as I haven't received my card yet!! Chuck
 
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#33  
My gosh....what kind of monster have I created by starting this thread....?/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
 
/ Pro union/Anti Union ? #36  
Moss, now why did you have to start up this thread again?? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
/ Pro union/Anti Union ? #37  
I don't like unions because they usually are difficult to get together and when you finally get one together, it usually doesn't fit that well and leaks.. Having said that, it seems that there is no way around them. Got to have tried one at least once to decide if you want to use one.
Maybe we should move this subject a little off base and discuss Social Security????? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
/ Pro union/Anti Union ? #38  
I like unions too...
My wife and I are united in marriage! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
/ Pro union/Anti Union ? #39  
"I like unions too...
My wife and I are united in marriage!"

Those can be the most expensive unions of all /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif They definately diminish the male's free speech effort /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif And cost you at least half of what you have to get out of /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
/ Pro union/Anti Union ? #40  
Unions are good and bad depending on the situation. I've had a union with the wife for 28 years now and still hanging in there.

I worked for a company once that was going to join a union. We did not need one either. The lazy people that worked there were the ones trying to form it. The owner had a nice sitdown meeting with all 1200 workers. He told us that he had treated all of us with the utmost respect over the years. How he kept us working during the slow times by stockpiling parts in warehouses instead of layoffs. He then went on to say that if we joined a union. He would close the company and move it out of state. That was the last we ever heard about organizing a union there. No one ever got any flack or bad treatment for trying to start one either.

The next place I worked at had a union. I have nothing good to say about it either.
 

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