Post Hole Digger choices

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kwahl

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I am looking for help on which PHD to go with and do I need the down pressure kit that Rhino offers? I have heard that PHD are difficult to work with. I have allot of holes to dig and would prefer owning vs renting.

Thanks for all help!
 
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If you've got alot of holes to dig I would consider getting a post hole pounder. If you can get the down pressure kit I would definitely do it.

If you just want a straight post hole digger for the price I think Worksaver makes the best one I've found. Certainly better ones out there but you pay for it. What exactly is your price range and such?
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( If you've got alot of holes to dig I would consider getting a post hole pounder. )</font>

Richard,

I'm not familiar with a post hole pounder, other than the kind used on metal channel posts. Is this the kind you're talking about? Do they make a 3 pt version of those? Is it like a pile driver kind of set up? What's the cost compared to a regular PHD?

If it is, wouldn't that create a tremendous amount of shaking and vibration to a compact tractor? It seems that could create a lot of problems.

Just curious, as I'll be getting a post hole digger when I get my tractor.

Hmmm, maybe I'll end up getting a post hole pounder!
 
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Thanks for the responses.

The Top of the line Rhino runs about $1400 with the down pressure kit and 9" auger. This is rich for my budget but I don't plan on making this purchase twice and want to do it right the first time. Some have recomended renting a unit but I am afraid that the unit would be suppar and over time more expensive.
 
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kwahl,

That's a nice unit. Not a bad price. The worksaver can be had for around $500 with the auger, but no down pressure kit.

Golfgar,

Here's a link for the post pounders. post pounder With mine I can pound railroad ties. I have used mine on the 4600 for two years now and no problems at all. I've pounded well over a couple thousand posts.

They make a smaller one than mine that would fit your machine nicely. Believe me once you have used one you will never tamp another post. I can pound a post 3' deep every couple minutes. I have the bigger one and it was just over $2k. Believe me it has payed for itself a 100 times over in saved labor.
 
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Richard,
You use the post pounder in place of a PHD, right?

OkieG
 
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kwahl:

If you want a really first class PHD that you can leave to your kids and will still be digging 50 years from now, I highly recommend the Danuser. I purchased one at auction, opened it to replace seals and the gears, indeed the whole thing, is very, very solid. I visited their factory to pick up the kit, and they are still making them that way. The same family has been running it for going on 100 years (though only making PHD since WW II). Everything is made in US. They make several sizes including a smaller one. The company is similar to the many older, smaller manufacturers that used to dot the US who try to put out the best quality product possible. They are really nice people.

Re Cowboydoc's suggestion for a pounder is very good one. In addition, and not mentioned, is that you can add cutters/breakers and use it to bust up concrete (at least you can on Danuser's models) which you may not need now, but it could come in handy in future projects. I would have bought the pounder myself, but since I already had the PHD (total cost about $800 for an F series PHD - new about $1,500) couldn't justify it.

If you take pride in owning something that is "best in class" look into the Danuser. Also, at least around here, resale on Danuser is good because of their quality so your actual cost (net of depreciation) is less than implied by their actual price.

Regarding down pressure kits, my understanding (from people who have sold them) is they are not as good as cracked up to be because of the leverage when the cylinder mounted on the PHD boom - perhaps some on this site who have used them could confirm or not. I had down pressure or float on the 3pt on an old Farmall and when I went to use it on the new tractor really missed it. You might find it as worthwhile to look into adding a cyclinder to the 3pt to get the same effect with much better leverage (In addition to keeping the auger points really sharpened up and using the "aggressive" tips).

JEH
 
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I have both but I rarely use the post hole digger. Unless I'm putting in some really big posts that I can't pound I use the post pounder.
 
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Thanks for all the insight! The pounder seems like a great way to go but I don't think that my PVC fence would take kindly to being pounded. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif I'll review the recommended options and see where that leads me.

Thanks again,
Keith
 
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I ordered a Landpride PHD25 for $1000 with a 12" auger, it sounds like a decent unit but I don't have it yet. Should have it in about a week. There is a down pressure kit available for it but I didn't get that. It has some kind of ratcheting slip pin arrangement which sounds good.
 
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kwahal Check the belltec phd. This is one that you can reverse,square,and down pressure. You do need 2 remotes.
 
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I needed a PHD to do about 100 holes. I didn't want to rent.
I purchased a Leinbach 7400. It drills like a champ. I have well over 400 holes on it, without any problems at all.
It was also cheap. Around 375~400 bucks , plus augers were less than $100 or so a piece.
Danny
To start something else, I weld to my rops. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
 
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>>I have the bigger one and it was just over $2k

I followed the link, but the prices on the page you provided, http://www.kencove.com/postdriver.htm, and it seems the cheapest one is just under $3K and the most expensive close to $9K...which "bigger one" did you get for just over $2K?

2K seems reasonable to me, 9K is WAY out of my budget....
 
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Here's the prices from the website.

The HD-8 and HD-10 post drivers from Shaver can be front or rear mounted on a tractor. Shaver's HD-12 and Worksaver's HPD-16, HPD-20 and Worksaver HPD-24 are rear mount only. Manual or hydraulic tilt options are available. Kencove's price on the small driver with 3 point hitch attachment and adjustable stabilizer legs is just $2067.20. The HPD-20 is $2987.75
 
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I also have a PH auger and a driver. And like Doc, I hardly ever use the PHA any more. I have a Danuser and it works great. It is amazing how big of a post that you can drive into rocky or hard dirt with it. You do have to take your time driving T-posts, they will bend. Takes about 30-45 seconds. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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I'd appreciate if you could answer some dumb questions (not having seen a post driver in action).

What happens when you hit a good sized rock? Does the post split or get stuck? Can you pound posts with holes in them (like split rail posts)? I take it, no backfilling/tamping is needed like with a PHD? I live in some hilly terrain, what's the maximum usable angle you can expect? Thanks,
 
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When you hit a rock it just stops. If you are using good posts they don't break unless you are repeatedly trying to drive one. As far as smaller posts like split rails just lighten up how hard you hit them. You can hit them a little or bring the full force of the pounder down on them. Like Jerry said with t-posts you just baby them into the ground. No backfilling tamping or anything is needed. The post is actually much much stronger than the best tamping job you could do and usually in less than minute your post is set and ready for anything you want to do with it. I'm not sure what the angle would be but the pounder is completely adjustable forward and backward and side to side. It would have to be almost straight up and down before you couldn't pound the post in.
 
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If your soil is rocky like where I drive most of my posts, you need to sharpen them. That way, if you don't hit a rock with the tip it will go in.
 
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>>Here's the prices from the website.

OK, now I see it. I was looking at those expensive ones near the top...different brand I guess. Thanks.
 
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Very interesting. Thanks for the responses. One more question if its not too much trouble. Well actually two...

With all the pounding and associated moving parts, have you experienced any broken parts and do you find things loosen up (on the pounder and/or tractor)? Is a CUT heavy enough to handle the pounding?
 

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