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looknlearn,I know in the past you used to be able to possibly get a ride on a freightliner with cargo boxes , and no views. But Im sure thats all gone now as well.

 

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When you think about it, the terrorists won. Were all treated like criminals, with no right to privacy. Cant even carry a fingernail file. What can you do with a fingernail file? or even a small jackknife? not much.

BINGO, you've got that correct. Plus our G has created yet another spot for taxe raises to be sold to us.

 

[Bird]

Cant even carry a fingernail file.

Some readers may think you are exaggerating, but my wife had an aunt in California, retired second grade school teacher, weighed less than 100 pounds, 90 years old, when she last came to visit us, and was brought out from the plane in a wheelchair. They did not confiscate her non-metallic nail file in California when she flew to Dallas, but they did confiscate it in Dallas when she flew back to California.

 

[Scooby074]

Some readers may think you are exaggerating, but my wife had an aunt in California, retired second grade school teacher, weighed less than 100 pounds, 90 years old, when she last came to visit us, and was brought out from the plane in a wheelchair. They did not confiscate her non-metallic nail file in California when she flew to Dallas, but they did confiscate it in Dallas when she flew back to California.

your right bird. i only wish i was exaggerating. I have family that flies weekly and ive heard all the stories first hand.

And dont even think about taking nose hair scissors in your carryon

 

[inveresk]

Looknlearn, a number of cargo ships take passengers. I checked this out when I had to get back to Europe at a time when the Icelandic volcano was stopping transatlantic flights. The cost isn't cheap but is usually on a par with a scheduled flight. The cabins are generous, often with a sitting room and separate bedroom. All meals are included and quite a few of the freighters have gyms and cinemas.

There are lots of web sites providing information on this. Here's one.

How to Travel by Cargo Ship

If you have the time, I think this would be a really cool way to travel, way more relaxing and interesting than flying.

 

[keegs]

I'd like to see a verifiable mechanism to ID everyone who works in America.

 

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Some readers may think you are exaggerating, but my wife had an aunt in California, retired second grade school teacher, weighed less than 100 pounds, 90 years old, when she last came to visit us, and was brought out from the plane in a wheelchair. They did not confiscate her non-metallic nail file in California when she flew to Dallas, but they did confiscate it in Dallas when she flew back to California.

That is a shame, how can we{US citizens} treat each other this way? How low have we{US} sunk to pick on our elders like this? Definatley not a shinning moment

 

[looknlearn]

Looknlearn, a number of cargo ships take passengers. I checked this out when I had to get back to Europe at a time when the Icelandic volcano was stopping transatlantic flights. The cost isn't cheap but is usually on a par with a scheduled flight. The cabins are generous, often with a sitting room and separate bedroom. All meals are included and quite a few of the freighters have gyms and cinemas.

There are lots of web sites providing information on this. Here's one.

How to Travel by Cargo Ship

If you have the time, I think this would be a really cool way to travel, way more relaxing and interesting than flying.
Yesterday 07:08 PM

Thanks, Inveresk. It sounds really interesting. I hoped there were more ways to get overseas than a airplane. When I am ready to start planning going overseas I'll look into it in detail.

 

[wroughtn_harv]

Please tell us what freedom it was that you gave up at HD? Convenience maybe...but I don't see any freedoms being abused. Would you feel the same if asked to show ID at a liquor store? I love it when I present a credit card and they ask for ID also. The store wishes to not sell certain items to minors. If we take away their tools for doing that, whose freedoms are then being abused? Yes, showing your ID to buy Liquid Nails or glue is a pain, but it's a loss of convenience, not a loss of freedom in my opinion.

Right on Jim.

The real freedom here is you don't have to shop at HD or any other store.

I like the idea of making sure the clerks do their job, insuring that kids aren't buying stuff they can abuse to ruin their brains.

 

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I like the idea of making sure the clerks do their job, insuring that kids aren't buying stuff they can abuse to ruin their brains.

Them ID'ing me and wasting my time did NOTHING to stop one single kid from getting high. The clerks/cashiers job is not to be a police officer it is to help folks find products and check out.

 

[/pine]

The clerks/cashiers job is not to be a police officer it is to help folks find products and check out

I agree that cashiers should be trained to recognize responsible shoppers and only need to ID questionable patrons...HOWEVER..as I previously stated...in most cases it is the software operating the digital cash registers that when a noted SKU is entered/scanned the software (not the human operator) stops the process until an acceptable DOB is entered...

 

[Bird]

The clerks/cashiers job is not to be a police officer it is to help folks find products and check out.

I'm afraid you're only partly right about their job. It may not include being a police officer, but if they sell that stuff to the wrong person, they could sure be getting acquainted with a police officer on their way to jail for violating the law. Sure, maybe it should be obvious to anyone that some of us are old enough they don't need to check our ID, but I don't blame the clerk/cashier who is probably only doing what the company requires of him/her.

 

[Bird]

I agree that cashiers should be trained to recognize responsible shoppers and only need to ID questionable patrons

No, no, that sounds like profiling; something nearly all law enforcement officers were trained to do years ago, but is a horrible violation now-a-days.

in most cases it is the software operating the digital cash registers that when a noted SKU is entered/scanned the software (not the human operator) stops the process until an acceptable DOB is entered...

Well said.

 

[brin]

No, no, that sounds like profiling; something nearly all law enforcement officers were trained to do years ago, but is a horrible violation now-a-days.



Well said.

Exactly right Bird, when I tried to buy that wine at Sams Club it was the cash register software that would not let the sale go through...the cashier was very nice about it ...and I did not want to wait until 8AM to buy it..I went there that early because I had a busy day. My Mrs. was not happy but hey, the had cool aid that night instead of wine...LOL:laughing:

 

[keegs]

No, no, that sounds like profiling; something nearly all law enforcement officers were trained to do years ago, but is a horrible violation now-a-days.



Well said.

Bird...I would have expected a more nuanced view from a former law enforcement officer after Henry Wade's tenure there.

Certainly nothing humorous about it.

 

[Bird]

Bird...I would have expected a more nuanced view from a former law enforcement officer after Henry Wade's tenure there.

Certainly nothing humorous about it.

Well, I was only half joking about it being profiling, but it is a fact that law enforcement officers, whether local, state, or federal, and even officers in other countries were trained in profiling for many, many years.

Were you thinking of something specific about Henry Wade? I guess you know he retired in 1987 after 36 years as Dallas District Attorney. So it's been awhile.

 

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I agree that cashiers should be trained to recognize responsible shoppers and only need to ID questionable patrons...HOWEVER..as I previously stated...in most cases it is the software operating the digital cash registers that when a noted SKU is entered/scanned the software (not the human operator) stops the process until an acceptable DOB is entered...

/pine you are correct, my post was directed at the previous post that I quoted. Wroughtn_harv seems to think kids should be the responsibility of HD clerks.

 

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I'm afraid you're only partly right about their job. It may not include being a police officer, but if they sell that stuff to the wrong person, they could sure be getting acquainted with a police officer on their way to jail for violating the law. Sure, maybe it should be obvious to anyone that some of us are old enough they don't need to check our ID, but I don't blame the clerk/cashier who is probably only doing what the company requires of him/her.

I don't blame the cahiers either society is to blame. Its seems like our laws have became very strict on things like this, blame the cashier for junior sniffing glue, blame the bar tender for _____ drinking and driving and so on. Sure is funny with all these perfect laws, substance abuse is still on the rise. I just wonder if it's because the innocent are attacked and not the real problem/issue?