Gale Hawkins
Super Star Member
- Joined
- Sep 20, 2009
- Messages
- 12,426
- Location
- Murray, KY
- Tractor
- 1948 Allis Chambers Model B 1976 265 MF / 1983 JD 310B Backhoe / 1966 Ford 3000 Diesel / 1980 3600 Diesel
Cool. Thanks for the photo.
Thanks for that. I had found them but their price of $AU350 PLUS shipping seems over the top compared to the US price for the same item. I believe in supporting local sellers but not when they charge double the price. Hopefully someone in the US might buy a pair for me and ship them. I'm happy to pay the reasonable costs involved.
I, like Dan Dargeloh, am not a very happy camper with Pat's product.
Pros: I like the stabilizer bar that I bought with the package. It sets the width very easily for hooking up. My rotary cutter was setting on two
4" blocks under one side. I was able to use the hitch to pick up the low side and attach the high side. Worked very well for me.
Cons: This is where my indigestion begins. As stated by Dan, the Gummy Bear bolts used to align and secure the hitch to the lower arm are worthless. I used my hitch for about two days and the alignment bolts as well as the u-bolts worked themselves loose (yes they were tight to begin with). The bolts had mushroomed severely on the ends. Like Dan, I was going to replace the Gummy Bears with Grade 8's, but while trying to remove them one wrung off in the hitch. Now I have a machining exercise that has to be performed. Poor engineering at the expense of profit.

Just a quick note to praise customer service.
In moving my PEC's from Virginia to Mississippi (off the tractor) I lost a pair of shims and the pin for them on one side.
A quick email to Greenwell Mfg. requesting purchase info for a complete set resulted in the pair and shim being put in the mail the next business day and in my mailbox a few days later.
Quick and easy, just like the PECs.
I bought a set of Pat's easy change couplers (category 2 to category 1). They went on easy enough, but looked kinda like a cobble job when mounted. Mounting equipment proved to be easier, but not by much. If one has cement to park the equipment on where it will stay level and can't settle, they should work fine. Unfortunately, I don't have that privilege, so it usually took help to get everything hooked up. I will say unhooking was alot easier with the Pat's system. I'm not a hobby farmer, so my tractor gets used and not babied. After some time with a 3pt disc and box scraper behind it, going thru ditches and rough ground, I noticed the snap couplers were loose on the lift arms. The jam bolts that are suppose to hold the couplers tight on the lift arms (also align them) are cheap soft steel and had mushroomed on the ends where they contact the lift arms. On one, the drift pin that holds the shim in the bottom of the coupler had came out with the subsequent loss of the shim. Once the bolts start mushrooming, that really lets the couplers try to sway on the arms (the ball in the arm is wider that the arm, so the couplers try to rock on the arms) and causes even greater mushrooming. This makes the removal of the snap couplers a real pain! I was going to put it back together with grade 8 bolts, but decided if they mushroomed I would be in real trouble and would probably have to use a torch to remove the couplers if needed. Therefore I decided to leave them off and go back to the old way. Now I have a couple of expensive door stops. My advice is if you are going to use your tractor under less than ideal conditions, leave it the way it is. If you are a hobby farmer who enjoys playing with equipment, then the Pat's system will probably make your day!
I agree with everything here & will add a few additional comments. I've spent > $250 getting a new shaft on my PTO mower deck after it came loose in the field. Ok, I thought, I didn't check the length of my shaft like I should have, so after getting new longer shaft welded on, and losing a week in the process, I went out & tried to mow.
I emphasize try. When backing up, PEC disconnected twice in less than 30 minutes. From what I can tell, the special washer & pin rotate about 90 degrees, and then the something caused the pin/and or washer to let loose. Again, I'm guessing because the only thing I noticed is the hole on PEC was 90 degrees from where it was when I started. Let me tell you, trying to remount these in the field is a PITA. And after the 2nd time, I just said screw it and replaced took them off in the field.
I will echo Dan's complaint that uneven ground requires you to adjust the PTO arms because the clearance of PEC is not much. You only have 2-3 inches to play with, so the time I'm off/on the tractor, I could have easily just hooked it up without PEC.
Since you have so little room to play with (2-3" at most), you will also find that you'll be getting on/off the tractor to adjust the sway bars to they line up to your implement's arms. I am not such an expert backer that I can accurately back up with that accuracy. If you had a helper who could adjust the bars horizontally in the last few inches, it would help, but then why have PEC in the first place?
I know there are lots of satisfied customers here for PEC, so obviously some are getting use out of them. But for me, they don't work and in all honesty are more work than I had before. I get on/off the tractor MORE, and them coming lose in the field was the last straw.