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/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #601  
Cool. Thanks for the photo.
 
/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #602  
Thanks for that. I had found them but their price of $AU350 PLUS shipping seems over the top compared to the US price for the same item. I believe in supporting local sellers but not when they charge double the price. Hopefully someone in the US might buy a pair for me and ship them. I'm happy to pay the reasonable costs involved.

Hello rmacAU and everyone in Australia & New Zealand

Farmbitz is the sole distributor for Pat's Easy Change in both Australia & New Zealand.
We are farmers just like almost everyone else on this message board & love the Easy Change.

After we managed to import out Cat 1 Pat's Easy Change Hitches to Australia, we spoke to Pat's and we actually asked "Why haven't we ever seen these in Australia?" The answer was that no-one had ever offered to import it. Well, we jumped at the opportunity because these hitches are just fabulous!

We price the Easy Change at the same level as you could get it from the USA.
So the Cat 1 based on the US price plus the cheapest delivery by US Postal Service to Australia. Plus we add a free Stabiliser Bar.
If you do try to get the complete kit from the USA then the cost from the USA is way more than we sell it in Oz, as the Stabiliser Bar must be sent separately, so it ends up being close to USD100 more than the cheapest USA Supplier who can send it to Australia for the hitches alone. And the US suppliers do not include the Stabiliser Bar in the kit, that's an additional cost.
We also have to charge 10% GST.

It's a little more difficult for the Cat 2. The US Postal service will not carry the Cat 2 as it is way over their weight limit.
If the hitches for the Cat 2 Easy Change were split and then sent separately, the entire kit would be delivered in 3 pieces, which would make it way more expensive than we actually supply it.

It is always difficult to compare a cost in one country for the exact same product as supplied in another.

We are the only distributor who supply Pat's Easy Change Kits in Cat 1, Cat 2 Easy Change and Weld-ons, and we even carry a few Cat 3 Hitches. Each kit comes with a Stabiliser Bar, complete kit to install [bolts, u-bolts, nuts and shims], instructions, and 3 sets of Lynch Pin Washers.

We also have some other great implements for your tractor. The newest item is a PTO Driven Generator, for all those far from home jobs on-farm.

Peter from FarmBitz
 
/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #603  
That is good news for those down under. We had to use ours this week getting ready for snow and the kids were gone so I was not looking forward to doing it alone but thanks to Pat's Easy Change kit it was a snap. :)
 
/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #604  
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I bought a set of Pat's easy change couplers (category 2 to category 1). They went on easy enough, but looked kinda like a cobble job when mounted. Mounting equipment proved to be easier, but not by much. If one has cement to park the equipment on where it will stay level and can't settle, they should work fine. Unfortunately, I don't have that privilege, so it usually took help to get everything hooked up. I will say unhooking was alot easier with the Pat's system. I'm not a hobby farmer, so my tractor gets used and not babied. After some time with a 3pt disc and box scraper behind it, going thru ditches and rough ground, I noticed the snap couplers were loose on the lift arms. The jam bolts that are suppose to hold the couplers tight on the lift arms (also align them) are cheap soft steel and had mushroomed on the ends where they contact the lift arms. On one, the drift pin that holds the shim in the bottom of the coupler had came out with the subsequent loss of the shim. Once the bolts start mushrooming, that really lets the couplers try to sway on the arms (the ball in the arm is wider that the arm, so the couplers try to rock on the arms) and causes even greater mushrooming. This makes the removal of the snap couplers a real pain! I was going to put it back together with grade 8 bolts, but decided if they mushroomed I would be in real trouble and would probably have to use a torch to remove the couplers if needed. Therefore I decided to leave them off and go back to the old way. Now I have a couple of expensive door stops. My advice is if you are going to use your tractor under less than ideal conditions, leave it the way it is. If you are a hobby farmer who enjoys playing with equipment, then the Pat's system will probably make your day!
 
/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #605  
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I, like Dan Dargeloh, am not a very happy camper with Pat's product.

Pros: I like the stabilizer bar that I bought with the package. It sets the width very easily for hooking up. My rotary cutter was setting on two
4" blocks under one side. I was able to use the hitch to pick up the low side and attach the high side. Worked very well for me.

Cons: This is where my indigestion begins. As stated by Dan, the Gummy Bear bolts used to align and secure the hitch to the lower arm are worthless. I used my hitch for about two days and the alignment bolts as well as the u-bolts worked themselves loose (yes they were tight to begin with). The bolts had mushroomed severely on the ends. Like Dan, I was going to replace the Gummy Bears with Grade 8's, but while trying to remove them one wrung off in the hitch. Now I have a machining exercise that has to be performed. Poor engineering at the expense of profit.
 
/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #606  
Dan and gto my Pat's ECS is a Cat2 to Cat2 on a 1976 265 MF. While I have a very heavy 9' 3PH disk and 8' heavy Bush Hog brand box blade the hard use comes when using mainly a very heavy duty 6' cutter which includes trees that I can ride down with the tractor sometimes. After 5 years mine have not become loose after the initial wear in period of a couple months. After I got the alignment correct and all 16 holes filed with bolts with jam nuts and four jam nuts on the two U-bolts it is still tight because I just walked out to the tractor and checked this AM.

I found the ECS did need to be re-tighten after the first few usages. Pat's Easy Change System is a huge safety feature in our case trying to hitch on hilly locations all of the time (no flat places where we store the equipment outside).

The only negative we have found after 5 years is it did not come with 16 bolts and 20 jam nuts but they were only a couple dollars at TSC. We used grade 3 or 5 (matched with what Pat sent).

The four bolts with jam nuts in the four bottom holes prevents the lost of the shims very well in our case. The eight bolts with jam nuts in the second and third holes from the bottom bolt holes hold the hitches in place because they actually tighten down on the OEM lift arms. In our case the top four bolts only contact on about only half of the end of the bolt with the OEM lift arms so that does tend to mushroom the ends of those four top bolts and their usage would be optional in my view in our set up.

It seems mushrooming comes from the add on ECS ends working so that is why it important to shim so when pushing or pulling equipment there is no real forces forcing the hitch ends up or down and that one does not use the tractor unless all straight and U-bolts are tight before each use.

Alignment is the number one thing that has to be done right and even with a tool and die background it was somewhat trial and error on the initial install. I think I spent about three hours on the initial install of just the ends because of shimming and reshimming to get the correct alignment.

I know with very heavy equipment alignment and fully bolting all holes using jam nuts was a requirement in our case. Until I went with the 20 jam nuts in our case nothing would stay tight with the use of the bush hog that makes the front end very light with 5 standard size suitcase weights out on the front end. I know ours have stayed tight for the past four years without any re-tightening.

Call Pat and see if you can not get missing shims. TSC, etc will have the bolts you will need. When you get and keep the bolts tight the mushrooming should stop based on our experience.

The up and down alignment is critical when used in an abusive way like we do with heavy equipment flopping from one side to the other when turning on steep hill sides.

Being physically limited due to arthritis and having the wife or kids help me hitch because it is never on level ground I can tell you it is much safer for my helpers now that we have Pat's ECS and if I added a tractor I would add a Pat's ECS.

Best of luck with getting them initially aligned and tight. Recheck after each hour of use until they are never loose. Since often the bush hog stays on all summer I try to glance at them each time I grease but they have stayed tight after going with the 20 jam nuts using 16 bolts in our case for 4 years now.
 
/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #607  
I've had a Pat's on every tractor I've owned over 30 years (except the backhoe). Never had a problem. But, like Gale, I took a lot of time to install them correctly and then tightened the fittings regularly for the first month, or so.

On my M7040, I bought the custom-made CAT 2 slide-in model that has no fittings. It just replaces the whole end section on the lower arms. The OEM slide-out feature is lost since the Pat's are fixed.

Sooooo...I ordered the CAT 2 weld-on Pat's ends and sold the fixed Pat's to a member on here. Then the OEM balls were cut off the OEM sliding ends and the Pat's were welded in their place. Now I have the sliding ends and the Pat's. Couldn't be happier.

If you feel comfortable doing the cutting/welding then you'll have a permanent solution and no adjustment or bolts to deal with.

Disclaimer - You have to have a capable welder and be a capable weldor.
 
/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #608  
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I, like Dan Dargeloh, am not a very happy camper with Pat's product.

Pros: I like the stabilizer bar that I bought with the package. It sets the width very easily for hooking up. My rotary cutter was setting on two
4" blocks under one side. I was able to use the hitch to pick up the low side and attach the high side. Worked very well for me.

Cons: This is where my indigestion begins. As stated by Dan, the Gummy Bear bolts used to align and secure the hitch to the lower arm are worthless. I used my hitch for about two days and the alignment bolts as well as the u-bolts worked themselves loose (yes they were tight to begin with). The bolts had mushroomed severely on the ends. Like Dan, I was going to replace the Gummy Bears with Grade 8's, but while trying to remove them one wrung off in the hitch. Now I have a machining exercise that has to be performed. Poor engineering at the expense of profit.

Lower grade bolts isn't really poor engineering....poor hardware selection maybe, but not poor engineering.

You say the system worked very well for attaching an implement right after saying you were unhappy with the system....that's pretty contradictory.

In reality, you're unhappy with a couple of lower grade bolts....that's reasonable, but also a super easy fix. Call Pat and see if he'll credit you for the better nuts, and bolts. I agree better hardware could be used, but the system itself works well.
 
/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #609  
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If I were to try to use "Pat's" again, it would have to be the weld on style, that would eliminate all those "adjustments", necessary to make the slip on version "fit". These slip on ones, not only look rinky dinky when installed, but I really don't like all the "adjustments" that are required and can't really believe they are going to stay tight under the conditions they will be subjected to, even with hardened bolts. A heavy load on the rear going thru ditches puts a LOT of side thrust on things, no matter how careful you are. I've got some fairly rough ground, which can really put things to the "test". I think I'll stay with the way Deere built this thing and just put up with the inconvenience of hitching up to 3 point equipment from time to time. Too bad the manufacturers don't make snap couplers an option. I'm sure it would be VERY popular, especially on these smaller tractors.
 
/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #610  
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Obviously GM did not have poor engineering on the ignition switch problem that caused 13 deaths and resulted in their recent recall, just poor hardware selection.
 
/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #611  
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I installed the Easy Change on my DK35 (CAT 1) one month ago and highly recommend it. I bought the spacer bar but find I don't need it since my implements' pins seem to have similar widths.

I back into the implement making sure the left hook is aligned and raise the hook to latch or, if the right arm is slightly off, just raise it so the right hook is slightly below the washer. If the right arm does need aligning I just move it over and latch it in using the DK's remote 3 point control or by lifting the arms by hand. I have probably used the hitch about 20 times and perhaps needed to make the right-hand adjustment 2 or 3 of those times. The hitch always releases properly by just lowering the arms.

After reading others' problems with mounting bolts I rechecked mine this morning by losening the jam nut and tightening the mounting bolt. They were fine, and I think I have put them through demanding conditions, ripping about 1,000' of rocky trails with my cultivator and using the rotary mower on rough terrain.

Here are photos using the cultivator.

r20140505_LevellingTrails_a.jpg r20140505_LevellingTrails_b.jpg



This is some of the rocks from the 50' section. I included the glove to show what the cultivator can rip out. It ripped out larger rocks than those shown here.

r20140505_LevellingTrails_c.jpg


As Gale Hawkins and gwdixon mentioned, I retightened the alignment bolts a few times and believe they may have finished settling-in.

The alignment bolts were longer than required for my tractor and stuck out more than I liked, so I shortened and reinstalled them all after fine-tuning the alignment.

I agree with Dan Dargeloh's statement: "Too bad the manufacturers don't make snap couplers an option. I'm sure it would be VERY popular, especially on these smaller tractors."

Although I have only used the couplers a short that use has been fairly severe. I think the Easy Hitch will work well for me and I wish I'd bought it sooner.
 
/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #612  
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Just a quick note to praise customer service.
In moving my PEC's from Virginia to Mississippi (off the tractor) I lost a pair of shims and the pin for them on one side.

A quick email to Greenwell Mfg. requesting purchase info for a complete set resulted in the pair and shim being put in the mail the next business day and in my mailbox a few days later.

Quick and easy, just like the PECs.
 
/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #613  
Just a quick note to praise customer service.
In moving my PEC's from Virginia to Mississippi (off the tractor) I lost a pair of shims and the pin for them on one side.

A quick email to Greenwell Mfg. requesting purchase info for a complete set resulted in the pair and shim being put in the mail the next business day and in my mailbox a few days later.

Quick and easy, just like the PECs.

+1....One of the 10 bent washers (I ordered 2 extra pairs in addition to the standard 3 that comes with a hitch) was missing. I sent an email and promptly received 6 washers in the mail. I sent an email offering to pay for the extra 5. I did not get a reply so assume they meant to send the extras.
 
/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #614  
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I bought a set of Pat's easy change couplers (category 2 to category 1). They went on easy enough, but looked kinda like a cobble job when mounted. Mounting equipment proved to be easier, but not by much. If one has cement to park the equipment on where it will stay level and can't settle, they should work fine. Unfortunately, I don't have that privilege, so it usually took help to get everything hooked up. I will say unhooking was alot easier with the Pat's system. I'm not a hobby farmer, so my tractor gets used and not babied. After some time with a 3pt disc and box scraper behind it, going thru ditches and rough ground, I noticed the snap couplers were loose on the lift arms. The jam bolts that are suppose to hold the couplers tight on the lift arms (also align them) are cheap soft steel and had mushroomed on the ends where they contact the lift arms. On one, the drift pin that holds the shim in the bottom of the coupler had came out with the subsequent loss of the shim. Once the bolts start mushrooming, that really lets the couplers try to sway on the arms (the ball in the arm is wider that the arm, so the couplers try to rock on the arms) and causes even greater mushrooming. This makes the removal of the snap couplers a real pain! I was going to put it back together with grade 8 bolts, but decided if they mushroomed I would be in real trouble and would probably have to use a torch to remove the couplers if needed. Therefore I decided to leave them off and go back to the old way. Now I have a couple of expensive door stops. My advice is if you are going to use your tractor under less than ideal conditions, leave it the way it is. If you are a hobby farmer who enjoys playing with equipment, then the Pat's system will probably make your day!

I agree with everything here & will add a few additional comments. I've spent > $250 getting a new shaft on my PTO mower deck after it came loose in the field. Ok, I thought, I didn't check the length of my shaft like I should have, so after getting new longer shaft welded on, and losing a week in the process, I went out & tried to mow.

I emphasize try. When backing up, PEC disconnected twice in less than 30 minutes. From what I can tell, the special washer & pin rotate about 90 degrees, and then the something caused the pin/and or washer to let loose. Again, I'm guessing because the only thing I noticed is the hole on PEC was 90 degrees from where it was when I started. Let me tell you, trying to remount these in the field is a PITA. And after the 2nd time, I just said screw it and replaced took them off in the field.

I will echo Dan's complaint that uneven ground requires you to adjust the PTO arms because the clearance of PEC is not much. You only have 2-3 inches to play with, so the time I'm off/on the tractor, I could have easily just hooked it up without PEC.

Since you have so little room to play with (2-3" at most), you will also find that you'll be getting on/off the tractor to adjust the sway bars to they line up to your implement's arms. I am not such an expert backer that I can accurately back up with that accuracy. If you had a helper who could adjust the bars horizontally in the last few inches, it would help, but then why have PEC in the first place?

I know there are lots of satisfied customers here for PEC, so obviously some are getting use out of them. But for me, they don't work and in all honesty are more work than I had before. I get on/off the tractor MORE, and them coming lose in the field was the last straw.
 
/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #615  
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tmanpdx, $250 for a new PTO shaft was cheap! I had a new one made to replace the old "el cheapo" that came on my 6' Rhino. Cost me a little over $600. But the new shaft puts the old one to shame and will probably outlast 3 or 4 shredders. I also installed a slip clutch from TSC to eliminate the fairly frequent failure of the soft shear bolts. The tractor I have it on, a 5303 John Deere works real well for mowing ditches, as it will crawl as slow as 1.2 mph, and has way more than enough horsepower. Now if I can ever get used to that green paint!
 
/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #616  
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I agree with everything here & will add a few additional comments. I've spent > $250 getting a new shaft on my PTO mower deck after it came loose in the field. Ok, I thought, I didn't check the length of my shaft like I should have, so after getting new longer shaft welded on, and losing a week in the process, I went out & tried to mow.

I emphasize try. When backing up, PEC disconnected twice in less than 30 minutes. From what I can tell, the special washer & pin rotate about 90 degrees, and then the something caused the pin/and or washer to let loose. Again, I'm guessing because the only thing I noticed is the hole on PEC was 90 degrees from where it was when I started. Let me tell you, trying to remount these in the field is a PITA. And after the 2nd time, I just said screw it and replaced took them off in the field.

I will echo Dan's complaint that uneven ground requires you to adjust the PTO arms because the clearance of PEC is not much. You only have 2-3 inches to play with, so the time I'm off/on the tractor, I could have easily just hooked it up without PEC.

Since you have so little room to play with (2-3" at most), you will also find that you'll be getting on/off the tractor to adjust the sway bars to they line up to your implement's arms. I am not such an expert backer that I can accurately back up with that accuracy. If you had a helper who could adjust the bars horizontally in the last few inches, it would help, but then why have PEC in the first place?

I know there are lots of satisfied customers here for PEC, so obviously some are getting use out of them. But for me, they don't work and in all honesty are more work than I had before. I get on/off the tractor MORE, and them coming lose in the field was the last straw.

You didn't get the adjustable stabilizer bar did you? If you have one, you can pretty much set the width to match the implement, and not have to get off/on the tractor more than once.
 
/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #617  
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That adjustable stabilizer bar works well under level conditions, AND if you are real good at backing up straight and even. The video makes it look like it works like a charm. In real life it ain't as easy as it looks!
 
/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #618  
I fabricated my own adjustable bar (3/4 PVC w/dowels screwed in at the appropriate distance) - so the problem is not maintaining the appropriate width - the problem is that your side-to-side movement and ability to back up to an implement within the 2-3" clearance you have. I simply can not back up my tractor that accurately, particularly over uneven ground.
 
/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #619  
how can I tell if the stock top link on a 2013 L 3200 will work or how do I measure it before ordering, thanks
 
/ Pat's Easy Change System - Order Online! #620  
Set your top link to the longest length you use for your mowers, etc. Then extend it a total of 4"(2" on each end) . If it will not extend that far with a suitable amount of thread still in the barrel (6 full threads--others correct me if I am wrong), then you need a longer top link.
 
 

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