Overseeder/Reseeder for SCUT

[Kennyrichmond]

Does anyone have experience with a 1025R and a Landpride 1548 Seeder? 3Pt. Specs are 685 lbs. at 24" and the 1548 is 700 lbs. where? The problem is that no one has the 1548 on display. I want to use it for overseeding perennial rye.

Thanks,

Ken R.

 

[jeff9366]

You might consider a FERGUSON YARDMAKER OVERSEEDER:

Aerator Products

 

[DJ54]

We have a Ford N/H dealer, called Franklin Eq., that sells both farm & construction equipment, but also rents equipment/attachments. They have some of these units in their rental fleet. So you may want to look for something like this in your area.

Last I checked, they rented that unit for $175.00 per day.

 

[Kennyrichmond]

Wow, fast replies!
I'm kind of sold on the Landpride, expensive though it might be. It's a combination dethatch, scarifier and cultipacker with a small seed drop rate control. It is ground driven, so it's just a question of weight and whether that CG might be within the 24" spec on the 3 point lift capacity.

Thanks again,
Ken R

 

[Kennyrichmond]

Rentals within a hundred miles of Philly don't seem to have them. Been told that Landpride has been taken over by Orange and I have a big dealer for Kubota pretty close, but they won't have any without an order.

Ken R

 

[bigtiller]

Your 1025R has a limited 3ph. I doubt it could even get it off the ground. Even if it could, once it is ground engaged I think you would not have the traction to pull it. But I am just arm-chair quarter backing here.

 

[Kennyrichmond]

Well, that's the point of my post. I have doubts too, but not related to the Limited Category 1, or the ability to drag it around in low. It only has to come 3 inches off the ground for turns. It's the 19 lbs, plus 25 lbs. over JD spec for two bags of rye in the hopper. I hate to have to order it - almost $6K with two sets of cultipackers (new ground/re-seed) - without knowing it'll work. Can't go bigger with the tractor due to gate clearance and sidewalk dimensions in other ground and snow removal applications. Dealers tell me they don't know about the JD lift, but 18 HP is the minimum recommended, 65 HP Max.
The only other option is a walk behind Billy Goat or a long wait for a walk behind Cub Cadet, and either one of these is more than half the price of the Landpride 1548. It seems my needs and wants are frequently obstructed by specs or dimensions.

But Thanks,

Ken R.

 

[sixdogs]

Landpride was bought by Great Plains Industries, a farm equip maker but operates the same as it has for years. If you could lift the 1548 you could easily pull it. But first you have to prep the ground so the seedbed is soft and will make good soil to seed contact.

The Landpride seeders and overseeders are very popular and seem to be well regarded. Remember, you have to lift the seeder as well as the seed you put in in and that could be 150 or more pounds.

An overseeder, such as the OS1548, would be more difficult to operate because the blades need to slice into the ground and the tractor needs to have more weight to handle the shaking of the implement.

 

[Sprinklerman]

How much area do you have to do ? If its grass and its 2 acres or less you could rent or buy a used self propelled slit seeder like the landscapers use . I have a Lesco and it works great , it will wear you out after an acre , but if it doesnt get used that much it is a alternative.

 

[Kennyrichmond]

I can service a suburban swim club and a two and a half acre grassy plot used for event parking overflow three times during the summer. It gets torn up - and packed, but after a soaking, seems soft enough. Local country clubs like the 1572 Landpride which prompted this investigation. I've studied their spring overseeding and didn't see much shaking (JD 3720 on balloon turfs) but the front rollers weren't canted more than about ten degrees. The rear cast iron blades and optional roller scrapers aren't spec'd separately for weight, so I don't know whether I should assume that the 700lb. weight is all up gross, or net of optional accessories. As for the hopper weight, I can carry bags of seed in the front end loader, but in reality, 25 or 30 lbs of grass seed is about all I'll need per pass. This is just overseeding, not a sod operation, so a one inch slice shouldn't be that difficult, No??

It would be a perfect setup if the 1025R can lift it without busting, but I'd really rather someone else be the test pilot on this

Thanks,

Ken R.

 

[jeff9366]

You are calculating stress/weight in static mode. When operating stress will be in dynamic load as tractor and implement move over uneven ground. One hopes Deere has allowed for this change from static to dynamic loads. I think you will be putting a max load on the little Deere.

On the two light tractors I owned in the past, the vulnerable point was the front axle, front wheel was always seeking a hole or rut to drop in.

 

[sixdogs]

When you overseed you do it in two directions. An "X" pattern with half the seed each way. Those slit seeders vibrate and you need the weight to slow it down. While I have a Brillion I am familiar with the Landpride. There is a learning curve to seeding, especially where there are patches of grass and spots without grass.

Most of the machine weights I recall are without options. You can look it up on their website.

 

[Kennyrichmond]

Well, as near as I can tell, the 1025R front axle, transmission case and bearing receptacles have been beefed up over the 2305. The only answers I'm getting from Landpride e-mail is that weights are "approximate". I do know about the cross hatching pattern for laying down the seed, but I'd be mightily grateful for any other tricks or techniques. I find it strange that this question has not come up with Landpride before given the obvious usefulness of this attachment. If it works, I'd have a payback in two years, so I'm tempted to order one and put the tractor on a trailer, take it over to the dealer at delivery and see if I can lift it there without any straining or grunting from the little Deere.

Thanks all,

Ken R.

 

[sixdogs]

Well, you might--might-- be able to lift the regular seeder with a lot of weight on the front end but it's effectiveness will be less than that because of terrain and turning corners. Lifting while standing still is the easy part. For the overseeder, there are --I think--120 slicers going into the ground offering resistance.

With my Brillion BOS4 (4') overseeder @950 lbs, I use a Kubota MX5100 or an L4300 and have weight on the front. I could see a 35 HP tractor being used but much less I don't think would effectively work. I just looked up the Deere 1025R and the 4 ft Landpride overseeder is a lot for it. It might pull the regular seeder but I'm not sure that it would be able to effectively lift it. I have used and am familiar with these seeders and you need more lift capacity and machine weight than what the actual lift capacity is. It also has to lift high enough to clear the ground.

Maybe you could find a piece of equipment that weighs the same as the seeder with seed in it and see if you can lift it or turn with it on? Nothing to lose and the answer is definitive. Remember, you might only need 25 lbs of seed but you need 50 in the machine so the bottom stays coated and you don't have skips. A good 8 ft grader blade or rake would be 700 lbs.
As well, you could also use this as an excuse to buy a second, bigger tractor and expand the herd. More is always better.

Just my personal opinion here. Please keep us updated.