Outrage after NY paper publishes names of gun permit holders

[IslandTractor]

It's the equivalent of posting a list of those that have added jewelry riders to their insurance policies. Don't you think a criminal would love to have that list?

You are suggesting that the major risk is theft of the guns. I appreciate that guns may be stolen but do not recall many reports of major gun theft rings. Cat burglars would want the easily carried and easier to fence jewelry type items in a typical break in. And, the estimated monthly payment on whatever vehicle is in your driveway as well as real estate value obtained via Zillow would give a crook way more useful information about potential valuables than whether you had a pistol permit anyway.

 

[/pine]

They should post the names of everyone getting a SS disability and those getting food stamps....IMO.

 

[murphy1244]

The antigunners are always complaining about the amount of stolen guns being sold.

 

[MF1433V]

I think Second Amendment rights end when it puts others in danger. And, i can think of 26 people who recently suffered fatal injury because of one of their sportsman and firearm "self defense" right.

Correct on a case by case basis. You aren't suggesting that we censor and limit the 1st amendment for all news stories because of event's like this abusing the right are you?

Well you are suggesting limiting the 2nd amendment for all based on the few abusing it.

 

[murphy1244]

They should post the names of everyone getting a SS disability and those getting food stamps....IMO.

I'm getting disability, we ain't all bad.

 

[IslandTractor]

I suspect those supporting publishing of this list are anti-gun believers; that's the only reason I can see for publishing a list of citizens who are obeying the law. I just don't get the anti-gun crowds' position. There are far more deaths every year from medical misadventure (98,000) than from guns ( 31,000):

Preventable medical errors: Preventable Medical Errors

Gun deaths: FASTSTATS - Injuries

Most of those gun deaths are by true criminals - very few by licensed firearm owners and virtual nil by CCW permit holders.

I am as appalled as anyone by the Sandy Hook tragedy, but what about all the deaths of children under 16 in Chicago each year: In Newtown’s shadow, Chicago’s bleak gun toll goes on ?

That last link illustrates that most of the deaths are gang related or committed in the act of committing another felony. Did prohibiting alcohol prevent it's use? No. Do anti-drug laws prevent drug use? No. Do anti-robbery laws prevent bank robberies? No. To continue the same behavior (prohibition of any act) after repeated demonstrations that such prohibition will not be universally obeyed (anti- alcohol, anti-drug) as suggested by the anti-gunners is just stupid.

PH

So called preventable healthcare related deaths are certainly a problem but i wouldn't attempt a direct comparison with gun deaths. The considerable majority of healthcare related deaths occur in people with serious medical problems already close to the end of life. Not true of gun deaths, especially in these mass killing incidents. It would be best to reduce both rather than argue that gun deaths are not as important as healthcare or MVA deaths.

No doubt a lot of bad boys are victims of gun homicide though. I say give them knives and they can do each other a la West Side Story where innocent bystanders are not put at risk.

 

[/pine]

I'm getting disability, we ain't all bad.

I did not mean to imply that anyone getting a disability was bad in any sense of the word...most I'm sure are deserved...just saying...

 

[IslandTractor]

The way we are headed, I would almost be willing to bet that your medical records/history will be available to about anyone that can show the slightest need, within the next 4 years. Ken Sweet

But it would certainly be stripped of specific identifiers.

 

[IslandTractor]

Island, that post was sorta made with "tongue in cheek". Ken Sweet

Gotcha. (Red faced)

 

[IslandTractor]

I swear we need a sarcasm font!

X2. Flashing so dummies can see it clearly.