Ouch. tree gets revenge

/ Ouch. tree gets revenge #2  
Being old and fragile these days I try to think SAFETY before doing almost anything. I try to think SAFETY when responding here on T-B-N.

Here is a guy using improper equipment, risking a $500,000 medical bill plus possible crippling for life.

Mr. Natural says: GET THE RIGHT TOOLS.
 
/ Ouch. tree gets revenge #3  
Being old and fragile these days I try to think SAFETY before doing almost anything. I try to think SAFETY when responding here on T-B-N.

Here is a guy using improper equipment, risking a $500,000 medical bill plus possible crippling for life.

NOT ME!
Agree! It is obvious the end of the branch is going to hit first and then the base has to go to one side of the tree or the other. not the sharpest tool in the shed!
 
/ Ouch. tree gets revenge #5  
What a dumbass. He did a lot of things wrong, but had he made a short undercut first, it would have been a much different outcome.
 
/ Ouch. tree gets revenge #6  
"Get out of there guys, I don't want to hit no one. Everybody Good?"
Uhm....Apparently not :rolleyes:
 
/ Ouch. tree gets revenge #7  
I won't use a chainsaw on a ladder. I've gone up a ladder with a chainsaw intending to use it, but it didn't feel right. Just way too many ways for that to end poorly.
 
/ Ouch. tree gets revenge #8  
That is why I don't like to make cuts from a ladder. Even with proper technique, there just isn't anywhere to go when things go wrong and Murphy's Law is always in effect even on the best laid out plans.
 
/ Ouch. tree gets revenge #9  
Was the saw hurt? It took a pretty good fall also. All joking aside, chain saws scare the crap out of me and I've used them quite a bit. I'm pretty sure it says in the owners manual never to use one for a ladder. I'd have just cut the entire tree down if that one limb was bothering me. The correct way to do it would be from a bucket truck or someone that knows how to climb a tree.
 
/ Ouch. tree gets revenge #10  
Some tree cutting stories:
1. One of my old commanders used to tell of a fellow clearing trees after Hurricane Hugo (1989, South Carolina) and this fellow was straddling the trunk of the tree he was cutting. It was caught up with some other trees and when his cut went through the tree he was on it in turn acted like a catapult or in this case a manapult. It tossed him over a couple of houses. Needless to say, he never cut anything again.
2. A LtCol I knew at my guard base was cutting a tree down and it fell over. He was making another cut to complete the job and the trunk was under pressure. His second cut released pressure and it whipped, hit him in the lower leg and severely broke both bones. He was out of action for several months.

A couple of ladder stories:
1. Mine - I was on a ladder. My head was at about 18ft putting my feet at about a 12ft level. I was about to feed an antenna cable into a building through a weatherhead. When I opened the weatherhead a swarm of wasps came out (see wasp nest below. It was in a 4" pipe.) and directly for my head. My brain reacted before reason stepped in and I found myself in mid air thinking "this is gonna hurt."
I landed on the concrete base pat for the antenna tower directly on my heels. End result was two crushed heels, a broken ankle, 4 months in a wheelchair, and 4 months of rehab. I was lucky in a way because the wasps came at me from an angle so I jumped away from them. If I had jumped straight back I probably would have contacted the antenna tower, tangled my feet in it and came down head first.
2. In the summer after I got back to work a contractor was doing some wasp eradication on our building and was on an extension ladder at about 30ft. Wasps came at him and somehow he came off the ladder and landed on the ground directly on his back. On the way down one of the latches that keeps the ladder extended caught him on the leg and gashed him through his calf all the way to the bone. We never did hear what became of him after the ambulance took him away.

About a month after that a swarm of bees decided to make our building a home in various places. One place was the antenna tower I had been hurt by and the other was approximately where the other fellow had been hurt. No-brainer this time - a pest control agency was called that had a high pressure sprayer and there were no ladders involved.

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/ Ouch. tree gets revenge #11  
Dumb yes. I have to admit I did something very similar about 20yrs ago. Cutting a limb much like him and the limb had a good curve about 1/2 way down its length then straightened out again. The limb fell exactly where I wanted it. However the curve of the limb landed first and caused the butt to spin and it took the ladder out from under me. If the butt had stayed straight to the fall or spun the other way, I'd been fine. Only thing I could think was "get rid of the saw"! I threw it right before I hit, smacking my forehead and nose squarely on the ladder. Broke my nose and had a "goose egg" that was literally as large as a chicken egg.

Thing is, I had been using a harness and winch strapping the top of the ladder to every tree I'd been trimming up to that point. It was the last one and I was tired, got in a hurry and didn't attach one end of the winch strap or my harness line buckle. If I had just done one or the other I'd been fine. I was literally shocked that I fell.......could not believe I was so self distracted I forgot to do either one.
 
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Ouch. Sad to see somebody getting hurt but good to see options of what can happen. And that there are so many "unknowns", like bees. I've been getting away with "a lot". Thx for posting these, a reminder to up my safety.
 
/ Ouch. tree gets revenge #13  
Several clips of limbs taking out ladders in this video:

using ladders for tree work - YouTube

I've used ladders a lot for tree trimming, but I used it only to get up to the limbs, then I stood on limbs and was tied to the tree when cutting. The ladder was also tied to the tree.

Bruce
 
/ Ouch. tree gets revenge #14  
Thought it was funny how that lady said "911 or not" like this was something usual for him.
 
/ Ouch. tree gets revenge #15  
2 things that don't mix: Chainsaws and extension ladders.
I stopped mixing them when I hit 40.
 
/ Ouch. tree gets revenge #16  
Quite a few years ago, we were removing a tree when we saw the middle aged neighbour over the fence start to get his ladder and saw out. He extended his ladder right out to reach by about 4 inches the lowest long reaching horizontal limb on a huge Magnolia Grandiflora. His wife was watching.

Then he tested his saw was working.

I (in a very friendly way) interrupted him.
"Are you going to take that limb off?"
"Yep. Been annoying me for a while"
"Not going to tie the ladder or anything?" I ask
"Dont need to, done this hundreds of times boy."

Seeing that suggesting anything wasnt going to probably go down well or change the outcome of what I could see coming, I tried a different route

"Ever tried using a harness?"
"Nope, dont need to, got a good ladder"
"Would you like to try mine, just to see what its like?"
"No, it would just get in the way" he turned his back on me, obviously not wanting to discuss anything

Sigh, he gets a few more things out and Im thinking like mad. His wife is starting to look nervous. So I have an idea

"I will give you 50 bucks if you put my harness on and cut the limb with it on"
"what?" he asks (full attention now from him and his wife, I have offered him money)
"I said if you use my harness and rope to do the cut, I will give you 50 bucks"
"Your crazy, you must have money to throw away" he says
"Well I climb trees for a living so I am a bit nuts. But 50 bucks" I pull a note from my wallet, his eyes open wide.
"your loss then, sure" he says brightening up a little.
So I jump the fence and put him in my harness and show him how my flip line works, and manage to get him to wear my helmet to. he asks about how much it all costs and then tells me that it cost a few times more than his ladder. I show him my big handsaw and how well it cuts so he doesnt need his chainsaw, and how to do a cut so the bit doesnt take out the ladder. He actually pays attention.

He climbs the ladder, complains about the harnesses weight and that it restricts movement a bit. Then when he gets to the top I get him to tie the flipline around the limb.

So he procceeds to cut the limb. of course as soon as it pops off the limb the ladders resting on pops up by a foot, leaving the ladder with nothing to lean on, it falls and his wife screams. Hes left up there hanging in my harness. MANY expletives are being let loose.

"Get me down!" he yells, legs windmilling around.
"your okay, just relax, you cant fall if you just hang in the harness, stop kicking around" I say
"Get me $*$&#* down"
"No sweat, we are qualified in Aerial rescue, but its going to cost you 100 bucks"
"You #*$&#&* #%$ #%$* Get me down now!" he yells

His wife then lets rip at him "You mind your language John Smith, He has just saved your life and your in no position to be acting like a complete ***!" She turns to me and says "thank you so much, I will gladly pay you 100 dollars to get my husband down, once hes calmed down."

So I got my spare harness and some gear, went up and with some difficulty, got him down. He was angry as all heck. But a week later he dropped by my place with a couple dozen beers, apologized and thanked me.

I worked for them every year after that.
 
/ Ouch. tree gets revenge #17  
Fool born every day.
 
/ Ouch. tree gets revenge #18  
As soon as you see a chainsaw and ladder during a YouTube video, it's all bad.
 
/ Ouch. tree gets revenge #19  
2 things that don't mix: Chainsaws and extension ladders.
I stopped mixing them when I hit 40.
Me too! I will use a pole saw with manual power. Anything larger than I want to take down than I can handle that way is a job for someone else.
 
/ Ouch. tree gets revenge #20  
Great story, timbersawz!

Jim
 

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