ORANGE or GREEN PHASE 2 !!

[MessickFarmEqu]

Kubota is just as American made as deere.... if not more in some cases. If you look at the side of a majority of tractors there is a sticker that says "made in the USA". Well, its about as made in the US as deere is. Kubota assembles some of the equipment in Georgia. Although a majority of the product is foreign, Kubota keeps a very good large staff in the country. I am not a deere dealer, and my word is not gosphel, but from what I understand they are not even manufacturing alot of their own compact tractors, rather outsourcing to one of the many OEM's.

When is comes down to it, your not going to find any compact tractor that is american made. The market is too competitive. Fortunatly there is still a good bit of american made AG equipment.

The most important factor is finding a tractor you are comfortable with and having a good local dealer who will sell at a fair price and be able to provide quality service and implements for years to come.

 

[rockyridgefarm]

<font color="orange">I am not a deere dealer, and my word is not gosphel, but from what I understand they are not even manufacturing alot of their own compact tractors, rather outsourcing to one of the many OEM's.
</font>

Well as you have demonstrated over and over, you aren't too sharp on what you are allowed to sell, so we aren't going to put much stock in what you can't sell.

 

[KiotiJohn]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( GM doesn't differentiate the pricing variance between Mexican assembled vehicles and those assembled here. Basically, they aren't passing on the savings of paying 1$ per hour labor rates in Mexico. )</font> I don't think most people realize that the average worker in Mexico makes between $3.50 and $5.00 per DAY, not $1.00/hour. I live in Mexico part of the year and I still can't believe how little these hard working people make. The prices just to eat use up most of their earnings. John

 

[raynman]

badapple,

Boy I could get side tracked hear with all the talk about the auto industry and made in America /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I live and work in the Detroit area dealing with automotive companies so I know what it's all about $$$$$$.

Back to your post, I have my tractor in Mid Michigan, and it's a sand box with lot's of snow in the winter. I don't think you will have any problems with the R4's on the tractor, it's what I have and most of my neighbors, no one has ever complained. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[JDgreen227]

John, good point about the wages paid to Mexican workers. Before we bought our Yukon XL I read several posts on Edmunds.com where buyers were concerned about the quality of Mexican built GM trucks. We have had zero problems with the quality of our "across the border" SUV and I wish the GM employees in Mexico were better compensated for the excellent work they perform.

While it would be nice if GM would reduce the costs of their Mexican assembled vehicles to reflect the lower labor costs, I am sure the expense involved in shipping parts and materials to the assembly plants there offsets part of the savings.

 

[5030]

Mike:

You & Junkman are tag teaming this poor guy. Sounds like wrestle mania on TBYN.

I have to say that the stickers on tractors and other durable goods should say "Assembled in America from various parts, some of foreign nature and some domestic".

The loader on my 5030 was made here. I believe most of Kubotas implements are made here. That's not to say that the steel in them isn't boat iron.

The company that I work for during the day, sells steel to a Kubota implement manufacturer. That steel may be domestic or imported as we get steel from domestic suppliers as well as foreign. After you un-can a coil or just put it in inventory, it looses it's place of origin and just becomes an inventory number for the most part.

 

[rockyridgefarm]

No problem! I understand global economy. This guy is on the NH and Deere threads trying to make a point that we can't seem to get through our heads...

<ul type="square"> [*]John Deere is no good because they lie about being all American made
[*]Kubota is good because they are Japanese
[*]Kubota is better than John Deere because thay are American Made
[*]NH is better than Deere because they don't use Japanese engines
[*]Deere is bad because they market aggressively.
[/list]

read his posts for yourself, and try and figure out the logic...

 

[PerryWhite]

Most of you are getting the point but I still sense some holdouts. It's a world economy..... Countries exist because of
politics, political idealogies, and rogue governments.
Everyone of of our CUT's, no matter what brand,
are made in dozens of countries around the world.
The last time I bought 3 point hitch pins, bushings, and clinch pins at Tractor Supply and Farm and Fleet, the tag said
made in India. Because of modern travel, communications
and other technologies, we are seeing a rapid equalization
of world economies. The new emerging economic superpowers are China and India. Those two countries alone
have more master's degree and doctorate degree graduates
than the rest of the world combined..

 

[OrangeFloyd]

I think badapple wants to apologize. He's posted on the wromg forum.
Since he was new to the tractor market he thought he'd come to this forum. He sought the wisdom of sages such as...well..maybe me. Certainly you guys.

But aparently he's found the 'Meet the Press' forum instead.

Poor guy.

-OF

 

[JDgreen227]

I am surprised Gatorboy hasn't griped about us being off topic yet.... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

And how many posts does a member have to make before they are considered a "sage"?

 

[mvoght]

I have to say, as usual, off topic discussions are usually lively...at least in the horses forums I normally frequent.

I'm still trying to check in here, but construction has started on the new farm, so I'm pretty swamped. I have a JD and a Kubota dealership about 5 miles from the new farm, another equipment dealer, but not sure which brands. They rent Bobcats though.

I'll keep lurking and try to learn the difference between the various models. A trip to the dealerships might be in order to get a short tutorial.

Mel

 

[badapple]

JOHN DEERE 4210 IS ASSEMBLED IN AUGUSTA GEORGIA BY JOHN DEERE ................ KUBOTA 2710 IS UNLOADED IN A CRATE ON THE LEFT COAST FROM JAPAN I CHECKED!!!!!!

 

[riptides]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I'll keep lurking and try to learn the difference between the various models. A trip to the dealerships might be in order to get a short tutorial.)</font>

Yes, you have many fine dealerships around you. Narrow down your "size" and desired "attachments", before you go looking. Even then, you'll probably size up or down when you sit on them.
Just get it in your head, what you need it to do, then want it to do. Remember that needs differ than wants....

-Mike Z. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Hy, BTW what horse forums do you frequent? Where? Care to post a link?

 

[JDgreen227]

Off topic discussions are the BEST.... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

One hour spent lurking on TBN will teach you more about tractors than a day spent at a dealership....unless the dealership sells GREEN, in which case it's about equal.

 

[Old_Hickory]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( <font color="blue"> </font> JOHN DEERE 4210 IS ASSEMBLED IN AUGUSTA GEORGIA BY JOHN DEERE ................ KUBOTA 2710 IS UNLOADED IN A CRATE ON THE LEFT COAST FROM JAPAN I CHECKED!!!!!! )</font>

Thats one thing Kubota has going for them. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[mvoght]

Mike/Riptides,

I post on the Chronicle of the Horse forums, an EZBoard forum (The Tack Room), rarely, UDBB, a friend has tried to get me to go to Competitive Horse, but I've only one post there, and my oldest, the Animals Forum, a dying Compuserve forum. AOL has done a fine job of killing it off, but there are a few old friends around.

COTH http://www.chronicleforums.com/6/ubb.x
TTR http://pub77.ezboard.com/bthetackroom17816
UDBB http://www.ultimatedressage.com/phpBB/ (hope this one still works, I don't get in there often)
Competitive Horse http://www.competitivehorse.com/cgi-bin/infopop/ultimatebb.cgi
Animals http://forums.compuserve.com/vlforums/default.asp?SRV=Animals&loc=us=public

I used to use the Compuserve one most, but like I said, it has nearly died. We all use our real names on there. Mel Voght. On the rest, I'm SaddleFitterVA.

I've been reading the Sales Tax thread with some interest. Since I currently live in WV, and will be moving to VA...I wonder if I should buy the tractor while I still live in WV. Eh...Probably not. I'll just pay the sales tax, although I am doing a farm, boarding operation. Not sure if it qualifies under the VA tax code for exemption.

I spoke to a saleman at the Kubota dealership in P'ville yesterday. I picked up some literature at a Home/Garden show at Apple Blossom Mall from a dealership, just across the border in WV today...that was simply luck of going in for a haircut on the right weekend /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif.

I did talk to a guy at Carlyle Anderson in Winchester, but they have a dealership there in P'ville now. There are NH dealers in Winchester and Frederick, MD, so we certainly are well supplied.

Any locals know which dealers are better for haggling? How much do you really USE service? I've never had any service on a tractor in my 11 years of this farm. We have a Mitsubishi Beaver that I'll be selling very soon...to help finance the new, larger tractor.

Mel

 

[mvoght]

I realize I should clarify that "no service" statement. What I mean is that we've never had someone ELSE do service. My husband does oil and filter changes. I grease the things that have a grease nipple fitting on them.

Mel