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[ddb123]

We have tractors with both treadle and twin pedals and for us it is pretty much a wash with an ever so slight preference for the treadle. It wouldn't sway us one way or the other. Some have reported hitting the wrong pedal with the side by side arrangement and my father in law actually put his in the pond this way when he first got it, but for the vast majority it's a non issue. Once he got accustomed to it, he really like it.

I put my lawn mower (and myself) through a low-hanging tree branch yesterday for the same reason. Wanted to stop but I jammed the hand lever all the way forward and crashed through!

I can see now though that for side by side it would probably be better to have the brake on the left in case you really needed it, whereas with the treadle you could just rock back if you were desperate.

 

[CAgnoli]

Can anyone explain something to me about the telescoping links? Do you slide them out to help hook up, then just back up the tractor once they're attached? You don't leave them extended with an implement hooked up, do you?

The telescoping links each have a pin you pull to extend them while hooking up the implement, then when you have it connected you put the pins back in to keep the implement where you want it. Very nice. Never going to own a tractor again that doesn't have them. I added them to my B2620 for 200.00 from tractorparts.com

 

[TripleR]

I put my lawn mower (and myself) through a low-hanging tree branch yesterday for the same reason. Wanted to stop but I jammed the hand lever all the way forward and crashed through!

I can see now though that for side by side it would probably be better to have the brake on the left in case you really needed it, whereas with the treadle you could just rock back if you were desperate.

The treadle "seems" more intuitive to us though it won't to everyone I guess as some seem to have a strong preference one way or the other.

We have a John Deere also and just can't get use to the left foot brake. All of our tractors both geared and HST except for the one have brakes on the right, so we instinctively hit the brakes with our right foot. As we rarely use brakes on our HST tractors however, it is not a real big deal.

I am sure you could adapt to either setup.

 

[k0ua]

If I could get that price I might go for it. I'm going to call the dealer in Vinita tomorrow. Are you getting used to the joystick crowding your leg a little bit? The HST was just what I'd hoped it would be: smooth to engage in forward or reverse and easy to adjust speed on the fly. I liked the HST+ features, although I'd probably spend almost every minute in Low range anyway since my place is hilly and bumpy.

That's a good point about the brake pedal setup.

Can anyone explain something to me about the telescoping links? Do you slide them out to help hook up, then just back up the tractor once they're attached? You don't leave them extended with an implement hooked up, do you?

Getting used to the stick, but still find it a little akward.. almost totaly used to the 2 pedal setup now. I was/am a lover of the single pedal, but 2 pedal is ok..I think it is just a matter of what you started on.
On the links. No, do not extend them, back up close to the pins withe them telescoped and a little low. Get off and and extend them and with the telescoping sway bars pull their pins, and Push on the telescoping lower links latch and pull the lower links out ans swing them over the pins and put the pins in the balls. If you need to either lift the links by hand or slightly raise the 3pt with the lever on the back. Once the lower link balls are on the implement pins, then back the tractor up a few inches till you hear the "click" "click of the lower links going back in and automatically latching. Put on your top link. Adjust as much as you need to get it on. Then lift the implement a little and center it with a body check while you put the first telescoping sway bar pin in and go around to the other side and put the other one in.. Make sure nothing would hit a tire. Adjust top link as needed, for angle of attack. If you need to lower it to relieve tension on top link you can do so from the back, without having to go around the tractor all the time. I suggest you always try to hook up and unhook on level ground.. it makes all of this so much easier. If PTO implement, once All of this is done lower implement, and shut off key, and hook up PTO.

James K0UA

 

[k0ua]

The treadle "seems" more intuitive to us though it won't to everyone I guess as some seem to have a strong preference one way or the other.

We have a John Deere also and just can't get use to the left foot brake. All of our tractors both geared and HST except for the one have brakes on the right, so we instinctively hit the brakes with our right foot. As we rarely use brakes on our HST tractors however, it is not a real big deal.

I am sure you could adapt to either setup.

TripleR I am suprised at how quickly I am adapting to the left foot brakes and the 2 pedal thing.. Course that is how the JD lawn mower is set up also. On The Kioti there is no clutch, so to start you put the range selector in Neutral. so you need to step on the brakes to make sure it does not roll off thru the start procedure. It is different but it works well.

James K0UA

 

[ddb123]

TripleR I am suprised at how quickly I am adapting to the left foot brakes and the 2 pedal thing.. Course that is how the JD lawn mower is set up also. On The Kioti there is no clutch, so to start you put the range selector in Neutral. so you need to step on the brakes to make sure it does not roll off thru the start procedure. It is different but it works well.

James K0UA

I don't see the purpose of the foot clutch on the Kubota.

There is a Kioti dealer called Schwartz that is about 6 miles from here, but they only have like 3 or 4 tractors on the lot. Well, I couldn't just sit here and talk about tractors, so I went to see if they had a DK35 HST, and they did. They were closed but I spent several minutes on the tractor and checking out the links. The way I sat down this time the joystick was only hitting my leg with my foot on the reverse pedal. It seemed bigger than I remembered, same size as the L3240/3540 I'd say.

I just need to buy them all! Anybody want to lend me the money?

 

[k0ua]

I don't see the purpose of the foot clutch on the Kubota.

There is a Kioti dealer called Schwartz that is about 6 miles from here, but they only have like 3 or 4 tractors on the lot. Well, I couldn't just sit here and talk about tractors, so I went to see if they had a DK35 HST, and they did. They were closed but I spent several minutes on the tractor and checking out the links. The way I sat down this time the joystick was only hitting my leg with my foot on the reverse pedal. It seemed bigger than I remembered, same size as the L3240/3540 I'd say.

I just need to buy them all! Anybody want to lend me the money?

Yes just get one of each:laughing: It is the only way to be sure Yes the stick only seems awkward in reverse.. and I just came in after about another 30 minutes of seat time moving gravel, (just go too dark to see what I was doing very well ) Now it does not seem so bad, It is a powerful tractor, I could spin both front and back wheels with a full bucket of gravel, and pushing into the pile even in Medium range and lifting thru the pile, it is NOT underpowered, compared to the 36 hp Kubota, its 38 horse seems like a lot more than just 2 horse.. for sure less whine than the 'bota had, Only time I really hear any at all is in HI and pulling a hill and that is very mild. I am liking it.


Oh, the foot clutch on my old 'bota was to engage and disengage the PTO slowly, (also safety start switch, must push in clutch to start only)
James K0UA

 

[ddb123]

Yes just get one of each:laughing: It is the only way to be sure Yes the stick only seems awkward in reverse.. and I just came in after about another 30 minutes of seat time moving gravel, (just go too dark to see what I was doing very well ) Now it does not seem so bad, It is a powerful tractor, I could spin both front and back wheels with a full bucket of gravel, and pushing into the pile even in Medium range and lifting thru the pile, it is NOT underpowered, compared to the 36 hp Kubota, its 38 horse seems like a lot more than just 2 horse.. for sure less whine than the 'bota had, Only time I really hear any at all is in HI and pulling a hill and that is very mild. I am liking it.

James K0UA

I wonder if I would notice the whine. I didn't today on the L3240 at all. It didn't even occur to me that there was some other sound than the engine. And the engine was a lot quieter than my L4300. And smoother. Like butter. Creamy, perfect, orange butter.

Tomorrow I'm going to Schwartz and see if they'll let me drive their DK35. S&H dude didn't even call me like he said he would.

 

[k0ua]

I wonder if I would notice the whine. I didn't today on the L3240 at all. It didn't even occur to me that there was some other sound than the engine. And the engine was a lot quieter than my L4300. And smoother. Like butter. Creamy, perfect, orange butter.

Tomorrow I'm going to Schwartz and see if they'll let me drive their DK35. S&H dude didn't even call me like he said he would.

Your liking this new tractor thing aren't you?... I can tell.. you are hooked!:laughing: Soon you will be netted and landed!! Resistance is futile:laughing::laughing::laughing: You will be assimilated! Good luck

James K0UA

 

[ddb123]

Your liking this new tractor thing aren't you?... I can tell.. you are hooked!:laughing: Soon you will be netted and landed!! Resistance is futile:laughing::laughing::laughing: You will be assimilated! Good luck

James K0UA

Guilty :licking:

 

[PHILIP8N]

I don't see the purpose of the foot clutch on the Kubota.

Allows you to gently slip and slowly engage a pto driven implement. Philip.

 

[TripleR]

TripleR I am suprised at how quickly I am adapting to the left foot brakes and the 2 pedal thing.. Course that is how the JD lawn mower is set up also. On The Kioti there is no clutch, so to start you put the range selector in Neutral. so you need to step on the brakes to make sure it does not roll off thru the start procedure. It is different but it works well.

James K0UA

I have found it takes very little time to adapt to and become comfortable with a new system. The first year we owned our M8540, my youngest son and I were running cutters with it and my L5030. We were swapping out tractors for different areas and to do so, we would pull up close to each other facing opposite directions, leave them running and switch tractors.

I happened to look up and we were both doing the same thing; scanning the controls and "rebooting" our brains to each system then off we went.

I have limited use of my left leg, so left foot brakes are a no go for me. I can use the clutch and brakes with my right leg and have for years.

I don't see the purpose of the foot clutch on the Kubota.

There are several threads on this and I agree that it serves no real purpose. Some say it allows the gradual engagement of the PTO, but I can do this with the lever on mine. None of our independent PTO systems other than the Kubota use the clutch for engagement, we have no live PTO units. I have not used the new push button PTO on the new Kubotas, but our John Deeres have it and I never have cared for it.

My manual does not mention using the clutch to engage the PTO, but may be the L40 does. I would be interested to know.

 

[ddb123]

If I wind up buying an L40, I'll let you know what the manual says. I don't recall seeing a lever like my L4300 has, although there was a knob with the little pto symbol on it.

I did not wind up going tractor shopping today. I guess I needed a day off. Slept in and made brunch instead. Eggs, bacon, banana, and a slice of pie. I am having a hard time deciding between industrial and ag tires. I know I am putting the cart before the horse somewhat. I will not ask for opinions on this because I've already read several long debates on the subject. I don't want to start another. I just keep going back and forth on what I want in a tire. Right now I am leaning industrial.

None of which matters until I get a better look at the Kioti. Tomorrow will be sunny and I'm going to put my butt in the seat!

 

[TripleR]

If I wind up buying an L40, I'll let you know what the manual says. I don't recall seeing a lever like my L4300 has, although there was a knob with the little pto symbol on it.

I did not wind up going tractor shopping today. I guess I needed a day off. Slept in and made brunch instead. Eggs, bacon, banana, and a slice of pie. I am having a hard time deciding between industrial and ag tires. I know I am putting the cart before the horse somewhat. I will not ask for opinions on this because I've already read several long debates on the subject. I don't want to start another. I just keep going back and forth on what I want in a tire. Right now I am leaning industrial.

None of which matters until I get a better look at the Kioti. Tomorrow will be sunny and I'm going to put my butt in the seat!

I am pretty sure the L40 -3 has the button or knob for PTO engagement/disengagement. Maybe someone with this model can explain as it is different than my L30.

We have Industrial on our MF375, BX, 2305 and L5030 with Ag on the rest.

 

[PHILIP8N]

I am pretty sure the L40 -3 has the button or knob for PTO engagement/disengagement. Maybe someone with this model can explain as it is different than my L30.

My L3940 HST-1 has the lever, which I really like. The HST-3 does have a pull knob, instant engagement I assume. Philip.

 

[ddb123]

My L3940 HST-1 has the lever, which I really like. The HST-3 does have a pull knob, instant engagement I assume. Philip.

I'm confused by the HST-1 and HST-3 talk

 

[PHILIP8N]

I'm confused by the HST-1 and HST-3 talk

Changes within the production model run over the years. Do a search, you will find lots of info. But, if you are buying new, does not really matter. Philip.

 

[ddb123]

Changes within the production model run over the years. Do a search, you will find lots of info. But, if you are buying new, does not really matter. Philip.

I see. Yes, I will almost certainly be buying new. The used pickins are slim around here.

Kubota dealer offered me $7k trade-in on my L4300. That is about what I expected. That is what I paid for it, but I got a tiller and a post hole digger with it. Still, I'd like to get more out of it if I could.

I would not absolutely need the money to go toward the new tractor, but it would be nice. But once you pay the $1k for the "0%" financing, why not finance the whole thing? I can afford to take my time to sell the L4300, hopefully for more like $10k (feel free to burst my bubble though), but the question then is if I want to. I'm thinking....hmmm. Tough to say.

 

[ddb123]

I am waiting for the drizzle to stop before I go sit on a tractor out in the rain.

In the meantime, can anyone offer an opinion on which model suits best: L3240/3540/3940? I'm sure most people will say 3940. I was thinking 3540 because it's the smallest Grand L (the 3940 is about 4 inches longer, 5 inches wider, and a little taller) and has more power than the 3240. I wanted the extra power just for trucking around since I have hills and want a hydro. Figured 3 more ponies would help. I am planning on loading the rear tires, so figure about 1,000 more lbs added to the weight, plus the FEL assy adds about 1,100 or 1,200. The L3240 has plenty of pto hp.

Any opinions from members who own the L3240 and/or L3540? If you could do it again, would you again buy the one you have or go up/down?

 

[ddb123]

Just got back from Neosho and driving the DK35se. From limited experience with both, I preferred the Kubota. I liked the treadle pedal, loader control, and especially HST+ of the Bota. The DK looks better, the operator station is made of thicker metals, and I like the rear control for the 3pt. Has draft control (probably never use it), rear remote ( probably never use it), and quick attach (so does the Kubota but probably never use it). I could see those things being a great value for someone who would use them, but I don't gain anything from them. Dealer quoted $19,650 w/ind tires. Offered $5k trade-in but admitted I could probably get $8k or $9k pretty easy selling it myself.

That would be my tractor+$14,650 @5.5% = new DK35HST.

vs

My tractor+$17,100 @0% = L3540HST+.

If my maths are correct, the price of financing $14,650 over 5 years would be $16,800, plus any fees. That seems to put the ball firmly in the Kubota park, at least for my prejudices. :thumbsup:

So. Now I just need to grind down any extra $$$ off the Kubota quote if I can, and firmly decide 3240/3540/3940. I'm still leaning 3540 because it has the most power in that size.