Backhoe ? on the KB 2085 backhoe

DK35vince · May 10, 2003

On the Kioti KB 2085 backhoe on a DK 35.
Does the subframe remain on the tractor when the hoe is removed ?
Do you loose the tow bar ?
If the subframe remains with the tractor does it stick back from the machine any farther than the tow hitch ( my brush cutter comes very close to the tow hitch) ?
I am considering a backhoe in the future and reveiwing my options.
Thanks

Anonymous Poster · May 11, 2003

here's an LK2554, should be the same

Dewave

DK35vince · May 11, 2003

Thanks,
That helps give me more of an idea of the subframe.
The hoes look nearly identical so the subframes my be also.
Does Rhino build the backhoes for Kioti or have the same MFG ?
I went to the Rhino website and the specs on the hoes shown on their site exactly match the Kioti KB 1440 , 1550 and 2085 hoes.

bncsauve · May 16, 2003

On my LK2554, the hitch bar and 3pt hitch arms can stay in place when mounting the backhoe. The sub frame stays on the tractor when removing the backhoe. Pull 2 pins, remove pump from pto and drive away.

DK35vince · May 17, 2003

Thanks Bob,
The draw bar and 3 point arms were some of the things I was not sure about !

depratt_equip · May 19, 2003

on the DK 35 the subframe will come completely off when you take the backhoe off. the 3-pt arms and hitch stay on the tractor.

DK35vince · May 31, 2003

Thanks guys for the help on my backhoe questions,
I got a very good price on a KB 2085 hoe with 18" bucket from a dealer around 3 hours from here.
He is checking on my financing options, so I will know more on Monday.
If things work out on the finance rate I will have a backhoe in about 2 weeks.

Anonymous Poster · Jun 1, 2003

I have that BH on my DK45. The first time I took it off it only took a few minutes. As you probably know, the 2385(new number) hooks up to the tractor hydrolic system and doesn't have a PTO. Two pins, stablize the hoe, drive forward, lower the sub frame with a boom adjustment, unhook the hoses, and drive away, slick! It will be even easier next time.

The tiller was a challange to put on the three point hitch cause I never worked with a hitch before. Again, next time should be much easier.

I like the Kioti more and more as I work with it.

Nelson

DK35vince · Jun 1, 2003

That is a nice outfit you have !!
The backhoe I am checking into has the option of a PTO pump or a hose kit to run off the tractor hydraulics.
I have the rear remotes installed on my DK, so I just priced with the hose kit.

DK35vince · Jun 3, 2003

I have to make a correction.
The price I got was on a Rhino 85 backhoe. Which is the same hoe as the KB 2085.
I put myself in debt again and ordered the Rhino 85 with subframe,18" bucket and hose kit.
It will be in in around 2 weeks.
Thanks for the help.

Anonymous Poster · Jun 4, 2003

Vince,

If I had it to do again, I would have gone with the 18 inch bucket first too. In fact, I will probably add one to my collection. The 24 inch is nice for moving dirt and digging but I think the narrow bucket would be better for digging stumps (I have a lot to remove). I can't complain about the 24 inch so far though, about 10 less stumps on my lot to date. I haven't heard anything bad about the Rhino, let me know how you make out with it.

Nelson

DK35vince · Jun 4, 2003

Nelson,
As far as I know, according to picturers and the specs the Kioti 2085 or (new # 2385) and the Rhino 85 are the exact same hoe.
Kioti 2385, Rhino 85
digging depth- 102" , 102"
reach - 132" , 132"
load height- 77" , 77"
swing arc - 180 deg. , 180 deg.
bucket rotation - 180 deg. , 180 deg.
ship weight - 980 lb. , 980 lb.
bucket dig force - 3550 lb. , 3550 lb.
dipperstick force- 2225 lb. , 2225 lb.

Anonymous Poster · Jun 8, 2003

I have an LK3054 that I'm looking to buy a backhoe for. My question is can anyone tell me or post a picture on how the sub frame that Kioti has connects to the back half of the tractor. And has anyone used or own a Koyker backhoe (made by Kelley) if so how was it.

Anonymous Poster · Jun 9, 2003

Hi,
I have tried to attach a pic of the LK3054 sub-frame out of my kb2385 Backhoe manual. Looks like there is a little difference in the sub-frame depending on the tractor model. Look at my other posts for an attachment that shows the hoe I have for the DK-45. The pic shows the hoe setting on the ground after removal from the tractor. Sorry about the quality of the pic attached, I couldn't scan the book, had to snap a shot with the camera.

Nelson
DK-45

Anonymous Poster · Jun 9, 2003

Thank you Nelson for the picture it came out good and does show me what I was looking for. Is that sub frame and mount on your set up strong enough that you can lift the tractor off the ground ? And if your digging off to the side of the tractor do you get any sideway movement/flexing in the sub frame ? Thanks again for your help.

Anonymous Poster · Jun 9, 2003

Re: ? on the KB 2085 (2385) backhoe

<font color="blue"> The sub-frame is plenty strong enough to lift the tractor. When I am digging stumps and need a bit different angle, I lift the stabilizers, use the boom to pick up the rear wheels, and use the swing cyl. to set the rear of the tractor to the side. I know it isn't recommended but it is a trick I learned a long time ago and can't seem to give it up. Also, the other day I got myself into a huge pile of limbs and stuff pushing up a pile and didn't see a low stump which promptly hung me up by the frame under the hoe. The loader bucket curl wouldn't push me off it, so I used the little swing trick there too. It worked slick. Scooted right off the stump and drove away.

When digging, you can hear and feel the sub frame shifting around a little bit within the bracket. It has to have some play in it for ease of install and removal. It isn't a problem.

By the way, watch the hoses close. I thought I was but still got a scrape on the bucket extend hose where it goes through the boom. I am going to try for a warrantee claim. It shouldn't be that tight and or the opening that sharp. Shouldn't have any wear with only a couple hours on the hoe.

I hope this info has been helpful.
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Nelson

DK35vince · Jun 14, 2003

Re: ? on the KB 2085 (2385) backhoe

I picked up my new backhoe today. LOOKS GOOD !!
Rhino 85, 18" bucket and subframe.
I just need to install the hose kit and subframe brackets and I will be digging.
It was a 5 1/2 or 6 hour round trip to Group Farm Equipment to get the new backhoe(still in the crate, I finish assembly and mounting to the tractor but I got a great price $5200).
Thanks for the help on the backhoe questions everyone. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif