Old time super power farming

[bcp]

But it appears they are not taking advantage of the greater tractive power.

Bruce

 

[Ed of all trades]

Does seem to be a lot of "horse" for the work getting done. Ed

 

[k0ua]

I don't think that is a very efficient 'Prime Mover". The fuel used for the work performed ratio is not good. Those larger engines use a lot of fuel and a not insignificant quantity of water too. Not to mention they continue to consume fuel and water even when idling and not performing any work.

One should take into consideration these prime movers have Tier 1 pollution controls and the cleanup of the environment will be up to the owner to accomplish, or otherwise you will be knee deep in combustion products.

They do have a lot of torque on demand, but this could be a problem in that the ground engaging equipment could be subject to shock stress if an underground obstacle is encountered.

 

[Wagtail]

I don't think that is a very efficient 'Prime Mover". The fuel used for the work performed ratio is not good. Those larger engines use a lot of fuel and a not insignificant quantity of water too. Not to mention they continue to consume fuel and water even when idling and not performing any work.

One should take into consideration these prime movers have Tier 1 pollution controls and the cleanup of the environment will be up to the owner to accomplish, or otherwise you will be knee deep in combustion products.

They do have a lot of torque on demand, but this could be a problem in that the ground engaging equipment could be subject to shock stress if an underground obstacle is encountered.

You're thinking 'glass half empty', James. I'm thinking a significant return of a "value added" secondary product of fertiliser for money spent on fodder! :thumbsup:

 

[ovrszd]

You're thinking 'glass half empty', James. I'm thinking a significant return of a "value added" secondary product of fertiliser for money spent on fodder! :thumbsup:

The fuel spent is definitely recyclable.

 

[k0ua]

The fuel spent is definitely recyclable.

Yeah, but the spent fuel that comes out of those things needs quite a bit of work to bust it up to be worked back into the soil.

They sell that crap up here at the Springfield Zoo. They call it "zoo-poo".

 

[ovrszd]

Yeah, but the spent fuel that comes out of those things needs quite a bit of work to bust it up to be worked back into the soil.

They sell that crap up here at the Springfield Zoo. They call it "zoo-poo".

Is it basically wet moldy hay?

 

[k0ua]

Is it basically wet moldy hay?

Big, round "clods" of used green stuff.
But some gardeners want it and use it.

 

[ovrszd]

Big, round "clods" of used green stuff.
But some gardeners want it and use it.

Love that description!!!!

 

[Wagtail]

Big, round "clods" of used green stuff.
But some gardeners want it and use it.

I was thinking about this (Not exclusively, mind you. Other things occur to me at times)... what do they do with zoo or circus 'waste'?

Do they sell the elephant dung at a premium or for [wait for IT!] peanuts?

 

[k0ua]

I was thinking about this (Not exclusively, mind you. Other things occur to me at times)... what do they do with zoo or circus 'waste'?

Do they sell the elephant dung at a premium or for [wait for IT!] peanuts?

It seems expensive to me. It is $15 per "scoop" which they list as approximately 1/2 a yard. So I am guessing it is just a FEL scoop on a fair sized tractor. It is not just the elephant "combustion products" it is all of the herbivores and it is composted on the site. So you are getting some good s... Uh stuff.

 

[ovrszd]

Cue the Marx Brothers......

 

[Wagtail]

It seems expensive to me. It is $15 per "scoop" which they list as approximately 1/2 a yard. So I am guessing it is just a FEL scoop on a fair sized tractor. It is not just the elephant "combustion products" it is all of the herbivores and it is composted on the site. So you are getting some good s... Uh stuff.

I always smile at these non-International Weights & Measures. We had a fair discussion here on TBN on what constituted a 'cord' or 'ton' of wood.

When it comes to "scoop", I'm reminded of Kelloggs Raisin Bran (Sultana Bran, here in Aus) and their claim that 'there are always TWO scoops of raisins' in a box... however they never define exactly what the size of the scoop is. :confused3:

And don't get me started on "Fun Size"!

 

[k0ua]

I always smile at these non-International Weights & Measures. We had a fair discussion here on TBN on what constituted a 'cord' or 'ton' of wood.

When it comes to "scoop", I'm reminded of Kelloggs Raisin Bran (Sultana Bran, here in Aus) and their claim that 'there are always TWO scoops of raisins' in a box... however they never define exactly what the size of the scoop is. :confused3:

And don't get me started on "Fun Size"!

Yeah, even as a kid I always wondered what a "scoop" was. They never said. Just 2 "scoops". For all I know the scoops were the size of thimbles. Uh, huh, fun size. Fun for who? Probably fun for the company that made it!

 

[dieselcrawler]

My wife always claimed she was fun sized... <100lbs @ 5'3", I'd have to agree, and still close to that after 6 kids... yup, that's my description of 'fun size'! *grin*

But geesh that's getting a bit off topic...

She would not likely see the humor in me posting that description in a thread based on an elephant.

 

[ovrszd]

My wife always claimed she was fun sized... <100lbs @ 5'3", I'd have to agree, and still close to that after 6 kids... yup, that's my description of 'fun size'! *grin*

But geesh that's getting a bit off topic...

She would not likely see the humor in me posting that description in a thread based on an elephant.

Good stuff right there Greg!!!! Classic example of how the male mind wanders. What was the subject again???

 

[OldMcDonald]

bcp, Very interesting - especially the ploughs (and numbering from the left) particularly the first top row. Also I think the person leading is wearing a German naval uniform of the time. Wiki is about the only quick source of info on Alsenborn and it seems the place is famous for its circus troupes. Top row 3 and bottom row 1 show quite a waste of good food for the the time though.

I do like the attire of the "gentlemen farmers" in Top 4.

K0ua please note that bottom 1 shows the great advantage of the prime mover being able to refuel without stopping!!

 

[Wagtail]

bcp, Very interesting - especially the ploughs (and numbering from the left) particularly the first top row. Also I think the person leading is wearing a German naval uniform of the time.

It's actually Belgian. I did a quick Google Image search = Belgian zoo elephant. Now why a Belgian sailor is 'handling' the elephant would be just as interesting a story. Perhaps the bloke was a zookeeper who joined the Royal Belgian Navy, then was pulled back into elephant handling service?