Oil & Fuel Oil Filter Source

/ Oil Filter Source #1  

tomb700

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Massey Ferguson 1030
I've been using NAPA filters for my MF 1030 but paying $30 for the PTO backhoe hydraulic filter #1553 seemed out of wack.
I found a source that may help someone else.
Fleetfilter.com sold me NAPA Gold filters (made by Wix) as follows:
Oil Filter 1391 (Wix 51391) for $5.81
Hydraulic Filter 1553 (Wix 51553) for $4.91
Fuel Filter 3390 (Wix 33390) for $$4.53
Shipping for 7 filters from TX to NY was $11.87
They were lightning fast getting the order out.
Hope this helps someone else.
 
/ Oil Filter Source #2  
How did you find the Wix numbers for those filters? I could only find fuel and oil filter numbers for my 2310 - and if memory serves me right, the fuel filter was rather pricey.

Jay
 
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Most filter mfgs have a interactive cataloge currently.

WIX filters, WIX oil filters, WIX air filters, WIX fuel filters, WIX Heavy Duty Oil Filters
Baldwin Filters Heavy Duty Filtration Products | Lube Filters, Air Filters, Fuel Filters, Hydraulic Filters, Coolant Filters, Cabin Air Filters and Automotive Filters
Cummins Filtration
NAPA Filters

Napa filters used to made for them by Wix (maybe still do?). They use to drop off the first digit of the wix filter to make the Napa number. In the wix world the first number indicated type of filter 3xxxx were fuel filters, 4xxxx were air filters, 5xxxx were oil and hydraulic filters, I think 2xxxx were coolant filters.

Garth
 
/ Oil Filter Source #5  
For comparison-- for the first 50-hr service, I opted to use factory parts.... ouch! I hadn't really looked carefully at the $$ before; that does seem a bit steep.

Engine oil filter....$14.70
Hydraulic filter....$27.95
Fuel filter............$ 7.75

I'll check "my" local NAPA to see what they get....

Oh, Will- yes, the fuel filter # is the same for my 2310, 3608255M1.
 
/ Oil Filter Source #6  
For my 50 hour service, I bought Wix filters from a local parts store for the oil and fuel (~ $11.50/each). I decided not to change the fuel filter at the time since there hadn't been all that much fuel used.

The parts store where I buy filters did not have a listing for the hydraulic filter, so I got that one at the dealer (~ $24).

Compared to what I pay for car filters, those all seemed pretty expensive. But considering that the next change will be a couple hundred hours from now, I guess it's not all that bad.

I've checked the online product listings for other filters, but still haven't find one listed for the hydraulic filter on my 2310.

Jay
 
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Jay
I would give them a call. They seem to have an excellent attitude.
From their website:

Feel free to call us at (866) WIX-FILT for any special requests.
FleetFilter Ltd
1102 South Austin
Brenham, Texas 77833
(866) WIX-FILT
(866) 949-3458
 
/ Oil Filter Source #8  
I would caution changing filters. There are a tremendous amount of differences in filters. We have done several cut-aways of competitive filters and there is alot of differences when you look inside. Not all filters are created equal. Here's a great example: Engine Oil Filter Study

I recommend the OEM filters because they are designed to protect your investment. Sometimes they are higher, many times they are not but they are the correct filter to perform the job. I personally use OEM filters for my vehicle purchased from my car dealer and they cost less than the auto parts store 1 by about a 1/3 of the price of the auto parts store. I've seen the same in our dealership I love to price against equal comparison filters and bearings. AGCO is very competitive for the same quality.
 
/ Oil Filter Source #9  
For comparison-- for the first 50-hr service, I opted to use factory parts.... ouch! I hadn't really looked carefully at the $$ before; that does seem a bit steep.

Engine oil filter....$14.70
Hydraulic filter....$27.95
Fuel filter............$ 7.75

I'll check "my" local NAPA to see what they get....

Oh, Will- yes, the fuel filter # is the same for my 2310, 3608255M1.

The hydro filter is dealer only, I have not found an aftermarket one yet.
 
/ Oil Filter Source #11  
I would caution changing filters. There are a tremendous amount of differences in filters. We have done several cut-aways of competitive filters and there is alot of differences when you look inside. Not all filters are created equal. Here's a great example: Engine Oil Filter Study

I recommend the OEM filters because they are designed to protect your investment. Sometimes they are higher, many times they are not but they are the correct filter to perform the job. I personally use OEM filters for my vehicle purchased from my car dealer and they cost less than the auto parts store 1 by about a 1/3 of the price of the auto parts store. I've seen the same in our dealership I love to price against equal comparison filters and bearings. AGCO is very competitive for the same quality.

I agree. Only one exception though, the LF filters are the same AC Delco stuff we run on our truck, all top quality, so I do not have a problem running them we we run out of MF filters.
 
/ Oil Filter Source #14  
Maybe if I was ordering a lot of things I would feel differently, but I'm OK paying a couple more bucks to buy what I need locally.

The only reason I got the oil & fuel filters at the auto parts store was because I also needed a couple for my cars and the generator. When I found out I had to get the hydraulic filter at the dealer, I wished I had just bought all the tractor filters at the dealer.

I like the fact that these guys are ready, willing, and able to answer my questions - and that they have about a zillion parts in stock. I'd like to do my little part to help be sure they stay there for many more years to come.

That's kind of the same reason why I avoid places that have Mart in their name. :rolleyes:

Jay
 
/ Oil Filter Source #15  
With all due respect to the dealers and OEM's; the cut away is always interesting but unless you actually know the engineering you can't really tell much. The filter medias are dramatically different today. The goal is to catch the dirty and not make too much back pressure.

If you are extending oil changes then the amount of dirt holding capacity will matter. It is still hard to tell the amount of capacity of the filter by just looking at the # of pleats.

If you are changing oil every 50 hours or less I suspect you will never see any difference in the media.

The after market filters must meet the specs as defined by the OEM. The OEM engineers know the amount of flow, pressure differentials and details of any valves. As long as the after market filter meets these demands then you will always be OK.

That is not to say your dealer will not give you the run around on warranty work if they see any after market filters. If I remember correctly their is an Act that does not allow the OEM to deny warranty as long as the filters / parts being used are in accordance with their specs.

Not many, if any OEM's make their own filters. They will contract someone to make the filter in accordance to the specs, which of course will include paint, part number and the amount of paper in the filter. I don't know who makes the most OEM filter but I suspect Fleetguard, Luberfiner and Donaldson are the biggies.

Garth
 

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