Off Road Dump Trailers Revisted...

[jim_wilson]

Do you remember what kind of suspension the King Kutter trailer had? I had looked at the Country Mfg. trailers a while back and they do look like a really good deal - my problem is that if I spend money on a dump trailer I really need to get something that can go over - highway as well as get pulled behind the tractor. The KingKutter XB/ Pronovost P503H is the only one that seems to fit that bill. I am curious as to what the XB has for suspension - the Pronovost on-highway version of the XB has spring suspension - I suspect that the off-higway version just has swivel point axle or some such thing.

 

[DMF]

I wish they showed a better view of that King Kutter tailgate; it sounds like a good design to copy for the Country Manufacturing wagon...

 

[dwl]

Jim, The King Kutter and the Country Mfg tandem axle trailers have the same axle design. They are a "floating" or walking design. neither have springs, just a pivot point that the allows the tires to "walk" over terrain. simple design, like a teeter totter.

 

[dwl]

it sounds like a good design to copy for the Country Manufacturing wagon...


Yes. This is what I intend to do. If I remember correctly, it is pretty simple.

 

[DMF]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( it sounds like a good design to copy for the Country Manufacturing wagon...


Yes. This is what I intend to do. If I remember correctly, it is pretty simple. )</font>

Do you have any photos of how they did it?

 

[dwl]

DMF, If you can give me a day or two, I'll see if I can get a few photos.

 

[DMF]

Well my wagon was delivered here at work yesterday. The lady told me when I ordered it that it would arrive on a 4’ x 8’ pallet and that it would weigh 500 lb’s. Other people here have posted that it definitely weighs more than that; my trucking slip listed 700 and it’s all of that and probably more. The pallet was in fact 50” wide. The distance between wheel wells on a 1995 Chevy K-2500 is 49”. The loading dock at work is 29” high; the bed height of the above truck is 32” high. We only have pallet jacks here, no fork lift which isn’t a big deal but you can’t pick up the entire 8’ long pallet with a pallet jack, especially not the 3” to make up the difference between the dock and the truck and certainly not enough to lift it over the wheel wells of said truck!
Long story short is we broke down the pallet and loaded my truck part by part during which time the trucks for normal business were waiting because we were tying up one of the docks. The question is: do I buy the dock foreman a six or a twelve pack of his favorite beverage?
The trailer looks pretty good; a bit smaller than I had pictured it. 2-ton capacity? I don’t know… I’d like some feedback from you guys who have used it so far.

 

[tjkadar]

I would go with a case... you never know when you might need something else delivered to work.

 

[dwl]

Following are a few photos of the King Kutter dump trailer.

pivoting axle system

 

[dwl]

Close up

 

[dwl]

Tailgate latch release lever

 

[dwl]

tailgate bottom latch/hinge

 

[dwl]

upper latch/hinge

 

[dwl]

King Kutter trailer

 

[dwl]

I hope those photos will help any of you who have ordered a Country Mfg trailer with ideas to modify the tailgate to work simular to the King Kutter

 

[DMF]

Thanks for the photos!

 

[jeffinsgf]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( ... 2-ton capacity? I don’t know… I’d like some feedback from you guys who have used it so far.
)</font>

I have had the bed heaped with creek gravel. I have had the sideboards bulging and overflowing with clay. No complaints from the tires or frame yet. The rear tires squash a bit when I dump a full load, but they bounce right back. Plan on lining the bed with a piece of plywood or OSB. Those wet ACQ boards shrink right up when the sun hits them, leaving cracks you could throw a cat through.

 

[JerryG]

<font color="blue">I have had the bed heaped with creek gravel. </font>
Jeff
I am glad that you said that. That is what I need to haul and have been worried that it wouldn't work or should I say be heavy built enough to work. I have spoken the Country a time or two, but it is better to hear facts from owners.

 

[DMF]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I have had the bed heaped with creek gravel.)</font>

I'm glad to hear that because I did have my doubts...


</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Plan on lining the bed with a piece of plywood or OSB.)</font>

I used to get a catalog that sold sheets of plastic material. Dairy farms and slaughter houses would use them to line the walls of the shop; made clean up a snap as you could hose it off. It had sheets for lining the beds of farm trucks, manure spreaders, etc. I forget how much they cost or the name of the material and/or catalog (not much help here am I?) but I wonder if these wagons would benefit having a sheet along the bottom and/or sides? Would make dumping pretty slick...

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Those wet ACQ boards shrink right up when the sun hits them, leaving cracks you could throw a cat through. )</font>

I almost spewed my mouthful of soda when I read that last part! Too funny! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[jeffinsgf]

If you're thinking of FRP, I would be hesitant. That is what a lot of dairies use, but it is quite brittle. You would crack it on the first FEL bucketful of rocks.

Now on the other hand, UHMW would be the ticket, if you could find it in a thin sheet for the right price. Might be worth investigating as high as OSB is getting. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif When I first starting using "Aspenite" it was about 2.50 a sheet -- unless it was on sale for 1.99!