Off-road diesal vs regular type

[sweep]

Wanted to give an update. Tractor came back with a clean bill of health. Dealer changed the air and fuel filters and the tractor no longer smokes. Just the little puff at startup

Mystery what caused this happen. Hopefully this is the end of the problem.

Well used the tractor again today and after a little while it starting smoking and stalling out and the hissing sound was back.

I opened the hood while the tractor was running and guess what? The foam rubber came loose and fell in front of the air cleaner opening and the rubber air hose was all collapsed as the engine was starving for air

Problem solved with a little automotive 3M weatherstrip glue.

 

[sweep]

your problem was probably the foam hood gasket being sucked into the intake housing, happened to me and a poster here saved the day! symptoms were black smoke and no power.... e.g., very rich fuel..

You were right!!

 

[jinman]

Sweep, you and Skerby have done a great job of documenting this problem. Yesterday I had the hood up on my TC45D and looked at the piece of foam you are talking about. Mine is still glued tightly in place and seems to have no issues, but it is easy to see how this could happen.

I guess my possible blown headgasket guess from a previous post was a bit off target. The symptoms sure sounded extreme though.

 

[sweep]

The adhesive tape NH used was pretty lame. Low tak stuff and super thin-less the thickness than cellophane tape.

I used 3m weatherstrip adhesive but if I had to do it over again I would have used the double sided tape the body shops use. You know the hardcore stuff they glue on spoilers, mouldings and fiberglass front air dams with.

I also used a bunch of Prep Kleen on it to get rid of any wax/grease etc.

 

[sweep]

I guess my possible blown headgasket guess from a previous post was a bit off target. The symptoms sure sounded extreme though.

A hissing and sucking sound are just about indistinguishable when the tractor is running

 

[atgreene]

Everyone is correct, off-road and on-road are EXACTLY the same with the exception of the dye. There is no difference, none.

I run off road in my excavator, my tractors and occationally in my trucks if they are doing site work and not going on-road. There is no difference. Anyone who says otherwise is being fed a line from someone.

Diesels will run on veg oil, used oil, tranny fluid, you name it, and as long as there is lube for the inj pump, they go just fine. Now that the price is way up, lots of folks are filtering used motor oil and mixing it with their diesel fuel.

Whatever the problem was, it wasn't an on-road vs. off-road fuel issue.

 

[Skerby]

thanks, but i credit SuperCobra's post from 8/12/2007 that turned me onto this problem and saved me time, money, and effort!

 

[LBrown59]

thanks, but i credit SuperCobra's post from 8/12/2007 that turned me onto this problem and saved me time, money, and effort!

What problem?
How did he solve it?

 

[daTeacha]

In this part of Ohio (northcentral/northeast), my supplier has off-road diesel which is sold as high sulfur content and has the characteristic red dye. They have on-road low sulfur diesel with no dye, and also biodiesel either at the pump or they will blend it to your specs -- all the way up to B100 -- and deliver it to your farm tank. If you get it delivered for farm use, it will be dyed no matter what the sulfur content or biodiesel blend.

There are price differences based on sulfur content, road tax, sales tax and biodiesel content. If you wish, you can get dyed high sulfur dinodiesel blended with biodiesel for off-road use and avoid paying the federal excise tax, the state sales tax, and the extra cost for low sulfur fuel while paying a bit more for the biodiesel content. Therefore, you can feel good about being "green" while using the red dyed bio blend and simultaneously feel like a gross polluter because you're burning high sulfur fuel. You can also get low sulfur fuel dyed for off road use, again blended with as little or as much biodiesel as you want, all delivered to your personal storage tank. About the only thing you are not allowed to do is use the high sulfur fuel on road.

That should be enough choices for anyone.