Notes for RTV1100 owners part 2 (do not install tracks!)

   / Notes for RTV1100 owners part 2 (do not install tracks!) #11  
I don't doubt that your mechanic installed the tracks correctly. I do question the modifications that were made to the machine as outlined in your previous posts regarding the rear axle to correct for the track on the left from binding on the radiator housing (as I recall these modifications were made on advice from the track manufacturer). As I stated at that time, I thought that tracks were going to be an issue as far as clearing the housing and it sounded to me as though the track manufacturer did not account for this but rather sold essentially the same tracks made for the 900 which does not have the clearance issue. Recall at one time I considered tracks myself but decided not to go with them when I learned that the manufacturers had not made a design change.
My best guess is that the angle on the axle was changed so radically from the stock position so as to cause exceessive torque to be transferred to the spindles causing them to fail. Another distinct possibility is that the entire axle itself was not properly aligned after the modification such that the axle was at an angle so it was sidetracking again causing excessive torque and binding on the spindles. Taking into consideration the length of the tracks, proper alignment of the axle after adding the extra leaf springs would be critical.
I think it is highly unlikely that 25 hp alone could cause those spindles to strip as they did. Those are fine thread heat treated steel splines, it would take considerable force to strip them alltogether, certainly 25 hp wouldn't do it. You could chain the machine to a tree, put it in low, put a brick on the hst pedal and walk away and leave it there until it ran out of fuel and they wouldn't strip. In my mind, something regarding the axle change caused excessive binding on the spindles. Since it was only the rear axle spindles that stripped and not the front and as I understand it, only modifications were made to the rear axle and no modification to the front drive and given that the machine was presumable driven in 4wd, it makes one question the modification of the rear axle as the contributing factor to the failure.
Finally, looking at the pictures and going over the history of the problems you have had, I think that the spindles did not go all at once but rather the condition has existed for some time and the spindles have been wearing away for a while. This would lend further support to my hypothesis.
 
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   / Notes for RTV1100 owners part 2 (do not install tracks!)
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mike

We haven't checked the fronts yet. Thanks for your comments & thoughts. I hope we get to the bottom of this quickly.
 
   / Notes for RTV1100 owners part 2 (do not install tracks!) #13  
Maybe the rear went before the front because they run in two wheel drive more than 3 wheel drive. :rolleyes:
 
   / Notes for RTV1100 owners part 2 (do not install tracks!) #14  
Well, well, well, for once, Skip's habit of interjecting in every single thread that the RTV does not have a locking front differential and his machine does (incidentally I think we got it Skip, RTV= no front locking diff...check) may have actually contributed something useful to the conversation.
In the event the machines rear axle was not properly aligned after modification such that it was sidetracking, running it with with the rear diff locked would only exasperate the problem of excessive binding. I would be interested to know how often you did run it with the diff locked and whether you ran often with only rear drive with the diff locked.
 
   / Notes for RTV1100 owners part 2 (do not install tracks!) #15  
mikeyd said:
Well, well, well, for once, Skip's habit of interjecting in every single thread that the RTV does not have a locking front differential and his machine does (incidentally I think we got it Skip, RTV= no front locking diff...check) may have actually contributed something useful to the conversation.
In the event the machines rear axle was not properly aligned after modification such that it was sidetracking, running it with with the rear diff locked would only exasperate the problem of excessive binding. I would be interested to know how often you did run it with the diff locked and whether you ran often with only rear drive with the diff locked.
Mike you slammed hard on the cv trans for no reason. They are test proven (5years with gator) and you kept slamming them. (rtv 1100 has been out for what a year?)
You couldn't find ANY proof so you started on that the rtv has power steering. Now You cry why when a real problem arises with the rtv 1100.
Come on man grow up. All utvs are different and they are all good with different abilities and disabilities~!:cool:
 
   / Notes for RTV1100 owners part 2 (do not install tracks!) #16  
A reasonable interpretation of my post would be that I am trying to help these gentlemen get to the root of thier problem. As I read it, that is the subject matter of the post. It has nothing to do with the cv trans. That was the subject of another post.
I think we would all be better served by those who wish to help these gentleman rather than to use thier misfortune as an occasion to gloat.
 
   / Notes for RTV1100 owners part 2 (do not install tracks!) #17  
mikeyd said:
A reasonable interpretation of my post would be that I am trying to help these gentlemen get to the root of thier problem. As I read it, that is the subject matter of the post. It has nothing to do with the cv trans. That was the subject of another post.
I think we would all be better served by those who wish to help these gentleman rather than to use thier misfortune as an occasion to gloat.
Gloat?
mikeyd said:
I only would like to know why it seems that only RTV owners seem to have the confidence to run tracks on thier machines.quote] Originally Posted by mikeyd
The RTV is not at all under powered, but you will need to shift to a lower gear going up a hill if you have a heavy load, you may not have to do this with other belt type machines. I suspect the reason is because the RTV has the hydro trans which is more of a direct drive where the belt machines can slip the clutch on the belt and maintain momentum going up a hill. It is a bit of a pain to have to stop and shift to a lower gear, typically I run in medium speed when loaded to avoid shifting. If it is very steep and I am loaded I drop to low and it will climb practically anything.
The real beauty of the hydro though is going down a very steep incline when loaded. All I can tell you is that the trans braking is an absolute godsend. I use 4wd in these situations so I get the braking effect from the front wheels as well. You just can beat it. Makes you feel very safe going down hill while loaded.
Come on. Why do you even mention a belt drive when you have no experience with it?
 
   / Notes for RTV1100 owners part 2 (do not install tracks!) #18  
Congrats Skip, yet another TBN user putting you on his ignore list. I guess when I asked you to stop sending me pm's you didn't get it.
 
   / Notes for RTV1100 owners part 2 (do not install tracks!) #19  
mikeyd said:
Congrats Skip, yet another TBN user putting you on his ignore list. I guess when I asked you to stop sending me pm's you didn't get it.
Fail~!
 
   / Notes for RTV1100 owners part 2 (do not install tracks!) #20  
It was so nice when this board was just filled with owners who enjoyed their machines and didn't spew crap constantly with nothing to back it up... You know, before the RTV owners popped up? :rolleyes:
 

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