Bob Rooks
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The blade angle cylinders have no bushings, they have ball swivel ends and they will slide on their pins. This type of design cannot be rigid.
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Not having bushings and having ball swivel ends makes sense. No he did not raise the blade high enough for the cylinders to get into the cowling. Looking at the picture it appears the right and left cylinders are crossed looking at the bypass fittings,which is what is getting into the cowling. I'm being very cautious, not wanting to buy a pig in poke.
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Bob Rooks
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The cylinders are installed correctly. If you look at it you will see. Mine are the same and I can show you pics of others. My guess is he doesn't know anything about operating equipment and got himself in irons. These little dozers run around $20k new, but an inexperienced (ignorant) owner/operator can ruin them in a heartbeat. That wishbone is a testament to that fact. Don't get me wrong, they will break. They all break. Just depends why.
Drive it forward in a straight line for five feet, crawl underneath and measure the distance between the inside of the track frames, front and rear - should be equal ± 1/4". Measure the distance between the centerline of the grease fitting on the swing frame trunnion cap to the centerline of the sprocket - these should be equal ± 1/8". You can also "X" the swing frames on the inside.
Maybe HE didn't put those marks there, but somebody did, and I really hate rewarding someone for poor practices. I was a field mechanic for Cat for years and have never ever heard of one slapping itself.
PS: There are no by-pass fittings on the hydraulic cylinders, only an in and an out.
Drive it forward in a straight line for five feet, crawl underneath and measure the distance between the inside of the track frames, front and rear - should be equal ± 1/4". Measure the distance between the centerline of the grease fitting on the swing frame trunnion cap to the centerline of the sprocket - these should be equal ± 1/8". You can also "X" the swing frames on the inside.
Maybe HE didn't put those marks there, but somebody did, and I really hate rewarding someone for poor practices. I was a field mechanic for Cat for years and have never ever heard of one slapping itself.
PS: There are no by-pass fittings on the hydraulic cylinders, only an in and an out.
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Bob Rooks
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No insult intended, but it is alway helpful to be aware of rocks that size and where they are located in relationship to your intended travel or manouver. I always keep a sharp eye for large rocks, springy saplings, sinking earth, etc. There is actually a lot going on that you have to be aware of. Some good catskinners just make it look like a walk in the park though.
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None taken Bob, this was just a fluke, the rock was well hidden. I did get everything back together and it is running great. I didn't get any pictures because of where it was(sorry). Chances of a rock getting in there again the way this one did would be VERY slim IMO(knock on wood
). I do drive slow low 2 most of the time and am allways keeping watch, this one just got away.20 20
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I also agree with Bob Rooks about the cylinders being correct. I checked mine out yesterday and they are mounted the same.
I looked at the cylinders on circle g's website and it appeared that the right and left were crossed, looks like the tubing and fittings is what is getting into the cowling.I'm going back next week to look further into these other issues you guys have bought up and operate it. The owner seems to be honest as the day is long, but with the machine in this shape with only 150 hrs something doesn't seem right.
Mike
Mike
Bob Rooks
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If you purchase the dozer you can swap the cylinders if it will make you feel better. Not a big deal, but this is the first I've seen that leave marks - and so high up too. Hmm.
I have done business with Phillip and the folks at Circle G and they are tops - even if they can't spell Yuchai correctly (or maybe they do it on purpose to antagonize). :laughing:
Bob Rooks
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I took a few more pics of my dozer and the wishbone/angle cylinder positions.
As you can see it is virtually impossible to leave those marks. It has 600 hours on it.
I will speculate that your wishbone has been badly tweaked.
As you can see it is virtually impossible to leave those marks. It has 600 hours on it.
I will speculate that your wishbone has been badly tweaked.
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just curious, did you go back yet?
Bob Rooks
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My guess is he re-evaluated the whole situation and decided he would be in over his head, both on repair capability and operator experience. Too bad. Doubt he'll be heard from again - not uncommon for first-timers. :ashamed:
Bob Rooks
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Hey Mike! Glad you're still on board.:thumbsup:
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Glad your still kickin
Todd727
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Five days without a post and you guys wrote him off? :laughing:
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Didn't write him off, just wondered if he faded out. A lot of threads like this are started, go hot and heavy then blip "that's all folks" Then we never know what happened
My offshore fishing season is just starting. The reason I wasn't posting over the weekend I had a spur of the moment marlin fishing trip with actor Tommy Lee Jones come up. I going back to take a look at it and see how bad he really wants to sell if everything you guys said to check, checks out.
Mike
Mike
I thought is was a wee bit pre-mature too but it has happens lots of time... regardless of what happens, TBN loves to know how it ends up.
They are good *little* dozers... just want to make sure you get a good one :thumbsup:.
PS. used to love deep sea fishing... (we need a puking icon here :confused2
The owner has re listed his dozer at $6500, my last offer was $4000 and a case of cold beer, he came back at $5000 and a case of cold beer, I think I may offer $4250 and cut the case to a 12 pack. The owner will deliver the dozer, about 35 miles one way for free. I still have to go and operate it myself and check the other things you guys have pointed out. I feel for sure he will take $4500, but I don't know if I will go that high with it in the condition it is in, maybe cutting that case of cold beer back to a 12 pack I might get his attention.
Mike
Mike
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