Nightmare Mahindra

[azchev]

My prior post was about how I didn't like the fact that the PTO shield didn't flip up. Well today, my problems escalated times 10. If I could do it all over again I would never, and I say never by a Mahindra tractor again. My tractor after 20 hours is completely broken down in the garage and is not going anywhere. I called the dealer where I bought it and they said it's my responsibility to get it to them. That's really nice except for the fact that the 6000 pound tractor with my tiller is broke down in the garage. I called the dealer and they stated that on Monday they could get to it. I asked them if they had a mechanic that could come to my house and they laughed. Tomorrow I'm having the tractor hauled to the lot and dropped off on the front lot by my brother in law. I'll let everybody know what happens...

PS...I was tilling my back yard for an hour and totally lost the back hydro power but the front end loader works...the engine is also ideling really odd and it almost feels like I'm losing engine pressure...it feels like the engine pressure is dropping and then the hydo's go dead. Wait till tomorrow and it's in the front lot. Oh yea, when I bought the tractor, the dealer praised about how good their service department was.

 

[SPYDERLK]

:confused2:What is engine pressure? Does the tractor have remotes? Maybe a remote is getting activated and forcing fluid thru the relief valve and disabling the 3pt lift.
larry

 

[JoelD]

Dido not sure what engine pressure is?

I don't totally understand the problem based on description

Joel

 

[JerryG]

Sounds like a hydraulic quick connect is disconnected or almost. They can look connected and still not be connected to where fluid will flow correctly. If you drove over any brush, it could have caused the problem.

 

[Gator6x4]

Sounds like several problems exist. Fuel flow will cause erratic engine surges. Flow problem could be because of bad fuel, plugged or partially plugged filter. Several hours of tilling with a PTO shaft that is too long could also cause big time damage. Who cut and siezed the PTO shaft, owner or Dealer? Is the tiller the proper size or oversized and laboring the PTO system? I know a few Dealers that will make "House Calls" on very large equipment. Small tractors they usually like the owner to bring in. This is the same level of service I have received for all vehicles, cars-trucks that I have owned. Dealer provides warraanty service after vehicle presented at dealership. As to the PTO shield that will not "Flip Up", visit local tractor salvage yards and see if one off another tractor will bolt on or will bolt on with modification. Be careful about going to far antagonizing the dealer, he is the one that will have to repair your tractor. Tractor dealers are not like car dealers on every corner. Some are having to transport a tractor for many many miles to reach a dealer for service. Roll Back Wreckers used to transport tractors are not cheap. I have a friend who paid for transport of a tractor 150 miles one way. Good luck on repairs.

 

[azchev]

The tractor has fresh fuel with diesel stabilizer added. Not sure why the engine pressure is going up and down. I'm not a diesel mechanic by any means. I agree with Gator by being careful not to upset the dealer. I'll transport the tractor on Monday to them if I can get it loaded on a trailer. The tiller is a King kutter 5 foot, so this is well with-in the limits of this tractors capability. As far as the PTO shaft size, it's a slide sleeve (not sure if that's the correct name). I measured the shaft to assure it has enough shaft length all the way down and up. My neighbor who has had tractors for 20 years said the shaft size was okay. I'll have to double check on the remote line to make sure it didn't get knocked lose. One more piece of the puzzle, the front end loader is working just fine, so obviously it's isolated to the three point. It's just really odd that the engine is acting funny and the rear remote won't go up or down. The PTO shaft is turning just fine.

 

[DAY]

Please tell us what "engine pressure" is!

 

[SPYDERLK]

The tractor has fresh fuel with diesel stabilizer added. Not sure why the engine pressure is going up and down. I'm not a diesel mechanic by any means. I agree with Gator by being careful not to upset the dealer. I'll transport the tractor on Monday to them if I can get it loaded on a trailer. The tiller is a King kutter 5 foot, so this is well with-in the limits of this tractors capability. As far as the PTO shaft size, it's a slide sleeve (not sure if that's the correct name). I measured the shaft to assure it has enough shaft length all the way down and up. My neighbor who has had tractors for 20 years said the shaft size was okay. I'll have to double check on the remote line to make sure it didn't get knocked lose. One more piece of the puzzle, the front end loader is working just fine, so obviously it's isolated to the three point. It's just really odd that the engine is acting funny and the rear remote won't go up or down. The PTO shaft is turning just fine.

Do you have hydraulic remotes or not? If you see 2 hyd connectors on the back of the tractor that is a remote hyd connection for a hyd implement. If the lever controlling the remote [different from the 3ph lever] is operated and held in operated position by its internal detent mechanism, then your hyd pump is forcing fluid thru the relief valve and using several hp doing it, thereby causing an extra load on the engine. The fluid for the remote comes from "Power Beyond" at the loader valve -- so the remote will not affect operation of the loader, but will prevent the 3ph from operating. Check this. It could save you a trip.
larry

 

[dex3361]

Most tractors have a 3 point hitch speed control valve that if you shut it off the 3 point hitch will not work. Look in your owners manual and see where your valve is located. Most are located just below and in front of the seat and I have bumped it closed to many times to remember.:thumbsup:

 

[SPYDERLK]

the ones ive experienced just affect lowering speed -- not raising.
larry

 

[k0ua]

I have read these posts carefully twice. and I still dont know what is wrong for sure with your tractor. This term "engine pressure" is confusing the heck out of all of us. We do not know what that means. So please stop using it. Start over and tell us what is wrong with your tractor. We are all guessing here. Is it the 3 point hitch that will not raise? or is it raised and will not lower? or is it the PTO will not turn? and describe what the engine is doing and what the symptoms seem to be. Also describe when things first went wrong and what you were doing at the time, and how the problems progressed and how you attempted to deal with them. Please include all the details you can. I understand you are upset and angry, but we cannot help you with suggestions, other than get it to the dealer if you do not give us details. Sorry for the long dissertation but the first step in problem resolution is to accurately describe the problem.

James K0UA

 

[JerryK]

My thoughts are..if the women knew how many of these near heart attack moments we had whilst learning about our new tractors...and how much life insurance we were good for .... maybe they would BEG us to buy more of them...???????

 

[dex3361]

The ones I have seen will stop it all together if closed.

 

[SPYDERLK]

The ones I have seen will stop it all together if closed.

You have a Kubota. Odds are it is the same type of setup employed on our three Kubotas. On ours the knob only affects lowering speed ... and when shut off tight the implement will not descend from whatever position. -- but if its not at top position it will still raise.
larry

 

[George2615]

To the OP: Did you really expect the dealer to send a mechanic to your house?
If that's the kind of service you want you should have asked the dealer before you bought it if they provide service at your home. Most all dealers will deliver a purchased tractor to your home for free but I wouldn't expect future home service on a CUT.
You also say the dealer praised his service dept. Is there a reason you think they can't fix the problem once you bring it in?
From your post one line says its completely broken down then you say you lost the back hydro power.
In my area most dealers will come to pick up a tractor from a homeowner but they charge for that service. It costs them money to take a man out of the shop and send him with a truck and trailer to get your equipment.
I'm not a dealer but give them a chance to fix the problem before you bash them.
Good luck on your repairs. I hope its an easy fix and with only 20 hours should be covered.

 

[bayoubilly]

hi , Q 1. do you mean the engine is losing power , or sounds like its lugging against a load ?
Q 2 is or can the tiller be removed ?
when i picked up my new MF 1533 ( 2500HD with 16 ft HD pintel hitch trailer ) the next day the 3 pt hitch would not operator , i found the drop rate controler turned to the locked position. then saw a dimple on the hood ,called sales . they came next day took photos for claim . following week temp gauge not reading , called service dept., 2 days later mech at the house found loose wire at sending unit . in my area JD / MF, K dealers are close by and must back thier sales with good service . anyone needing a tractor around here have 2 or more for all types of work on the farms. soon i'll be looking for # 3 .

 

[bindian]

Do you have hydraulic remotes or not? If you see 2 hyd connectors on the back of the tractor that is a remote hyd connection for a hyd implement. If the lever controlling the remote [different from the 3ph lever] is operated and held in operated position by its internal detent mechanism, then your hyd pump is forcing fluid thru the relief valve and using several hp doing it, thereby causing an extra load on the engine. The fluid for the remote comes from "Power Beyond" at the loader valve -- so the remote will not affect operation of the loader, but will prevent the 3ph from operating. Check this. It could save you a trip.
larry

This sounds to be the closest answer. My 3PH won't work if a remote is in a pressurized detent position. What position is the draft control lever in? If your having problems lowering the 3PH, then the draft position lever is in the up position and needs to be in the down position.

Are you saying engine pressure and mean to say hydraulic pressure?
hugs, Brandi

 

[azchev]

I didn't mean to confuse everyone when I said engine pressure. What I mean by engine pressure is that it will idle and when given gas, it will slowly creep up. I did take the air filter out and found that no air was being sucked in which could account for the drop in and raise in idle speed. To clarify, the three point is up currently and will not go down. The slow/faster knob under the seat is completely open. I checked all the intake hoses and they are tight and I found no leaks.

As far as bashing the dealer, I was bashing the fact that their service department on Friday didn't want to offer any assistance. Also, the service department stated that they were not open on Saturdays, which was a huge shock to me. That was my fault for not asking prior to buying. I've never heard of a service department closed on Saturday's. The tractor has been down now since Friday, I got it to the dealer about an hour ago. The mechanic immediately said something didn't sound right when I was unloading the tractor. I'll let them do their thing now and it's outta my hands. Thanks to everybody for reading and posting replies.

 

[grsthegreat]

I didn't mean to confuse everyone when I said engine pressure. What I mean by engine pressure is that it will idle and when given gas, it will slowly creep up. I did take the air filter out and found that no air was being sucked in which could account for the drop in and raise in idle speed. To clarify, the three point is up currently and will not go down. The slow/faster knob under the seat is completely open. I checked all the intake hoses and they are tight and I found no leaks.

As far as bashing the dealer, I was bashing the fact that their service department on Friday didn't want to offer any assistance. Also, the service department stated that they were not open on Saturdays, which was a huge shock to me. That was my fault for not asking prior to buying. I've never heard of a service department closed on Saturday's. The tractor has been down now since Friday, I got it to the dealer about an hour ago. The mechanic immediately said something didn't sound right when I was unloading the tractor. I'll let them do their thing now and it's outta my hands. Thanks to everybody for reading and posting replies.

i dont know of a single service center here by me that is open Saturday. there all m-f operations.

I sure hope that they can find out what your problems are. Luckly with the low hours and a new tractor, it will all be covered under warranty (cept for transportation). Transport costs are never covered.

 

[bindian]

I didn't mean to confuse everyone when I said engine pressure. What I mean by engine pressure is that it will idle and when given gas, it will slowly creep up. I did take the air filter out and found that no air was being sucked in which could account for the drop in and raise in idle speed. To clarify, the three point is up currently and will not go down. The slow/faster knob under the seat is completely open. I checked all the intake hoses and they are tight and I found no leaks.

As far as bashing the dealer, I was bashing the fact that their service department on Friday didn't want to offer any assistance. Also, the service department stated that they were not open on Saturdays, which was a huge shock to me. That was my fault for not asking prior to buying. I've never heard of a service department closed on Saturday's. The tractor has been down now since Friday, I got it to the dealer about an hour ago. The mechanic immediately said something didn't sound right when I was unloading the tractor. I'll let them do their thing now and it's outta my hands. Thanks to everybody for reading and posting replies.

What position is the draft contron lever in? It needs to be down to let the 3PH arms lower.
hugs, Brandi