New type of knee surgery!!

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RSKY

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I have intended to post this on here earlier but continued to let it slip my mind. Anyway on November 3rd last year I had an appointment for a checkup with my knee doctor. His assistant, aka, Frank, came in and started talking to us. He suddenly stopped and called up my x-rays on the monitor, turned and ran out of the office, and came back with the doctor. They ignored us for a half minute while discussing something then high-fived each other and started explaining their weird behavior. They explained that they had been to a seminar, convention, or whatever and learned of a new procedure. According to the doctor he and I both knew that my left knee would have to be eventually replaced. (It had hurt me the previous week on ever step I took. I was intending to tell him to schedule a replacement. The day before and the day I was at his office I had not a single twinge out of it. That is what is so frustrating.) This new procedure involved doing an MRI on the knee to identify weak spots in the bone. Weak spots full of fluid would show up as white on the MRI. Then the knee would be 'scoped', holes drilled into the bone, and a cement (he called it Quik-Crete) would be injected into the cavities. The whole process is to strengthen the bone, stimulate new bone growth, stimulate new cartilage growth, and postpone replacement surgery for up to five years. They wouldn't even put me to sleep, just do a spinal block.

"I'll do it", I said, "If it keeps me from having my knee replaced. How many of these have you done?"

"We are doing our first one Monday", was the reply. It was Tuesday. Needless to say I instantly backed out telling him there was no way he was experimenting on one of the only two knees I had. So he explained that there was a 25% chance that the procedure would postpone my inevitable knee replacement for five years. He also said that 25% of the people had no improvement whatsoever after the surgery and had to have a replacement within a year. The other 50% had varying results. But, he explained, since I was facing a replacement anyway there is no downside to the surgery except the pain involved and being restricted in what I could do for a month or six weeks. This is only done to people who are expecting to have a knee replacement within a year or so. I reluctantly agreed and he scheduled me for January 4th which was the earliest I could get in. And I only got in then because somebody cancelled or died that had a major replacement scheduled. I also told him to put me out if he was gonna be drilling on me. He laughed and said okay, that he had done a spinal block on his best friend when he scoped his knee a couple months before. Said the friend was still mad at him because he peed on himself constantly for over a week after the surgery.

They told us today, January 4th, that they are scheduling his surgeries for the end of April. The guy is good. Personable, concerned, always happy, and has the reputation of being the best orthopedic surgeon in four states. Does surgery three days a week and is backed up FOUR MONTHS.

Back to the story. Got there at 6AM. Got prepped. Took a nap. Doctor and Asthesiologist came in and initialed my knee. And I came to about an hour and a half later hurting like he11.

Wife said that after the surgery the doctor came in smiling from ear to ear and literally jumping up and down. Said everything went perfect and from what he could see the surgery was a success and should do as advertised. Said he had high hopes for the procedure and that I was a textbook case for the condition my knee and bones were in.

So here I sit at 11:30 at night. Slept all day and apparently when not asleep I have spent my time putting inappropriate items on Facebook. Oxycodone will do that to you. Wife took my cellphone away for an hour or so until I "calmed the **** down".

I will update my knee condition every week or two because I know there are several on here facing replacements and if it works for me it might work for you. Hey, postponing major surgery for five years is a huge win.

RSKY

By the way you cannot safely break an Oxycodone pill in half and take it. They are all time release for 6-12 hours depending on the size. If you break a large one in half you can potentially get the entire dose in a few minutes resulting in major problems for your body. Google is a wonderful thing.
 
/ New type of knee surgery!! #2  
Thanks for sharing your experience. Hope all goes well for you...look forward to updates.
 
/ New type of knee surgery!! #3  
Hope all goes well and your pain subsides sooner than later
 
/ New type of knee surgery!! #5  
Let's hope you are ready to kick azz in no time. ......or climbing up on the tractor to move some snow.
Cheers,
Mike
 
/ New type of knee surgery!! #6  
I had one knee replaced 5 years ago, so that new procedure sounds promising. I appreciate your telling about it.
 
/ New type of knee surgery!! #7  
Be curious how it turns out. I'm tentatively scheduled for a knee replacement in mid February. Had the cortisone, rooster comb shots (total waste of time/money), and I'm down to replacement.
 
/ New type of knee surgery!! #8  
I had my right knee scoped a few years ago, same white tissue on the MRI you are talking about. No cement, just the scope. Been pain free ever since. I'm 54 and hope it lasts a long time. Be careful with those pain meds, they can become addictive in a hurry. I took a couple and threw the rest away and started on the Ibuprofen. Not much pain really after the fact. Had the surgery on Thursday and was back to work on Monday. Swelling was probably the worst part of it.
 
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So here I sit at 11:30 at night. Slept all day and apparently when not asleep I have spent my time putting inappropriate items on Facebook. Oxycodone will do that to you. Wife took my cellphone away for an hour or so until I "calmed the **** down"...

:laughing::laughing::laughing: What DID you say? :laughing::laughing::laughing:

I hope the procedure works for you. I have had two family members who have had knee replacements and the results were just so so. :(

Later,
Dan
 
/ New type of knee surgery!! #10  
I got off the Oxy ASAP as I found extra strength Tylenol to work just about as well. YMMV.

How I spent my summer vacation:

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By the way you cannot safely break an Oxycodone pill in half and take it. They are all time release for 6-12 hours depending on the size. If you break a large one in half you can potentially get the entire dose in a few minutes resulting in major problems for your body. Google is a wonderful thing.
As a rule, if a pill is not scribed to be split, then it can NOT be safely split for the reason RSKY mentioned. The medicine may not be uniform throughout the pill.
 
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Brave man right there! bilateral knees!
did you have them done at the same time?

i had bilateral hips replaced in 2012 , both same day,
back on ice skates after 6 weeks!
although not very successfully :eek:
 
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Interesting procedure.......looking forward to the updates. I have had 3 surgeries on my right knee and 1 on the left. One of these days will probably need a replacement. Other than kneeling.......I can still do most things so I hope to postpone replacement for awhile.
 
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In the nineties, over a six month period, I had to take many, many Valium and Lortabs due to an inner ear problem and surgery. When it came time to quit I had no problem putting them in a drawer and leaving them.

Cannot understand how anybody can get hooked on that stuff.
 
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In the nineties, over a six month period, I had to take many, many Valium and Lortabs due to an inner ear problem and surgery. When it came time to quit I had no problem putting them in a drawer and leaving them.

Cannot understand how anybody can get hooked on that stuff.

Well, the problem is that not everyone reacts to these drugs the same. Some, perhaps many people react just like you and have no problem weaning themselves off of these drugs. Yet others have a great difficulty doing so. Just like I become violently ill by a dose of peanut butter, and you may love the stuff. My wife sure does. Everyone is different.
 
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And Oxycodone is far different than Valium. Much stronger. Valium is not prescribed for pain relief. Here Valium (diazepam) is a benzodiazepine (ben-zoe-dye-AZE-eh-peens). Diazepam affects chemicals in the brain that may be unbalanced in people with anxiety.

Valium is used to treat anxiety disorders, alcohol withdrawal symptoms, or muscle spasms
 
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Be curious how it turns out. I'm tentatively scheduled for a knee replacement in mid February. Had the cortisone, rooster comb shots (total waste of time/money), and I'm down to replacement.

I did the same. The injections helped just a tiny bit for a short time.

So here I sit at 11:30 at night. Slept all day and apparently when not asleep I have spent my time putting inappropriate items on Facebook. Oxycodone will do that to you. Wife took my cellphone away for an hour or so until I "calmed the **** down".

I've never had any pain pills make me do, or say, things I shouldn't do or say, but I had some surgery on one eye last month and they gave me a hydrocodone/acetaminophen tablet to take before I left the hospital, and a prescription for 35 more of them, with instructions to take one every 4 hours as needed. So 4 hours later I took one, and another 4 hours another, for a total of 3 that day. I just plain forgot about the side effects that I had from that same medication when I had my knee replaced. It works great, as far a preventing, or stopping, pain, but I spent the entire night wide awake; laid back very comfortably in my recliner in front of the TV, even tried closing my eyes for awhile, but NO SLEEP all night. And I didn't feel any more tired or sleepy the next day than usual, but that night I slept GOOD for 10 hours.:laughing:
 
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I've been putting off replacement for 1.5 years. I'm starting to believe the surgeon when he said it won't get better on it's own. But i have had surgeries before and they never told me the whole story until after it was over.
 
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Had one knee replaced 5 years ago. Greatest thing I ever done! Rehab was rough but it's like a new knee now!
 

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