New tractor lifting opinion please

[allen.car64]

New here. I'll try and make it short. I have kind of same question as poster BUT will be specific with situation and WHY.
Looking at KIOTI CK4020SEH with lift capacity of 1631lbs. the impliment I need to lift is 1388lbs on a regular. Meaning, impliment is a Verti Drain aerator. Will run/operate for 20-50ft then lift, turn around and drop and run again. 100 times a day.
The limits are to close for my liking. I DO LIKE THE OVERALL SIZE AND WIDTH (very important) of the tractor. I know I can go up a size for tractor, but I want to make sure that is the ONLY way to make this work. After reading around I think you guys are awesome and would know my options.
Many huge thanks in advance.

 

[dstig1]

You still have 250 lbs of lift left over. As long as that does not change, it should be fine. You may need to consider front weights to help balance and offset it, especially if you leave it in place all the time. I guess I am assuming this is carried on the 3-pt...

 

[AaronD81]

I was initially going to say you should be fine since the Verti Drain appears to be a pretty compact implement and you'll likely be on smooth flat surfaces, but the specs on their website all require more capacity than actual weight. For example, the 7316 weighs 1,480 lbs and asks for a 2,310 min capacity. So I'd say you need more tractor, especially since it sounds like you'll be using it commercially.

Enhance Your Grounds with the Verti-Drain® 7316 Aeration

Discover the versatility of the Verti-Drain® 7316 for sports fields and golf courses, perfect for tough conditions with adjustable speed.

verti-drain.us

 

[allen.car64]

Awesome, thanks guys. I will have front weights, not sure amount yet, usually more than needed for safety. The Verti Drain I am looking at is the 7215 @ 1210lbs and an older 7117 @ 1388lbs. Sorry I wasn't clear. The max capicity of the 7215 VD needs 1540lbs, the older 7117 I can't find.
I still wish to have your both feedback. My problem is I don't want to "over work" the tractor BUT I am trying keep it as small frame as I can. I can move up to the NX series but trying not to because of size.
Other than that the only requirements I have is a cab (for medical reasons) and be sychronized manual for hole spacing consistency.
(If I miss spelled anything, please overlook..LOL)
You guys are much appreciated.
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[allen.car64]

You still have 250 lbs of lift left over. As long as that does not change, it should be fine. You may need to consider front weights to help balance and offset it, especially if you leave it in place all the time. I guess I am assuming this is carried on the 3-pt...

Yes sir, it is pto driven and a 3 point lift. I outlined some things below with another post. But, so your saying if tractor capacity is say 2000 and impliment is 1900 then it is good to do the job? I am not well versed in tractors, just owner operator (past) for number of years and always belived you had to have a large clearance between weight and capacity. AM I wrong? (I hope so). Not sure why I have thought that way. I never like overworking equipment I guess.
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[allen.car64]

I was initially going to say you should be fine since the Verti Drain appears to be a pretty compact implement and you'll likely be on smooth flat surfaces, but the specs on their website all require more capacity than actual weight. For example, the 7316 weighs 1,480 lbs and asks for a 2,310 min capacity. So I'd say you need more tractor, especially since it sounds like you'll be using it commercially.

Enhance Your Grounds with the Verti-Drain® 7316 Aeration

Discover the versatility of the Verti-Drain® 7316 for sports fields and golf courses, perfect for tough conditions with adjustable speed.

verti-drain.us

Yes, commercially. But really isn't (tractor) put thru much. Example, in 1994 I bought new tractor, at end of year took to be serviced, and service manager told me he did the work but for what I do he would worry much about keep to tight a schedule. After a year the fluids were cleaner than what he put in...per his words.

 

[AaronD81]

The 7215 has a working width of 61 inches so I understand why you want to use a 54 inch wide CK. Is there a reason you would go up to NX and not DK series? The CK with loader or front weights will work, but you're correct that it could cause faster wear or damage. If you are very careful and use it on flat smooth surfaces risk is minimized. I would use a bigger machine, Kubota Grand L series, L3560, has 2,600 lbs capacity and is 60 inches wide.

Also check specs with the tires you will use, if you get turf tires it will be wider than advertised since a lot of specs are based on narrow ag tires.

 

[dstig1]

Well since Aaron looked up more details on the implement and found out it needs more lift than the weight would imply, I'd follow that. Yer gunna need a bigger boat, errr, tractor.

 

[newkiotiguy]

That weight rating is for 2 feet behind the hitch pins. I think it will lift it easily. I have the same tractor. My 3 point hitch with forks lift the heaviest totes of wet firewood easily where the front end loader rated at few hundred pounds higher capacity will barely lift it.

 

[allen.car64]

The 7215 has a working width of 61 inches so I understand why you want to use a 54 inch wide CK. Is there a reason you would go up to NX and not DK series? The CK with loader or front weights will work, but you're correct that it could cause faster wear or damage. If you are very careful and use it on flat smooth surfaces risk is minimized. I would use a bigger machine, Kubota Grand L series, L3560, has 2,600 lbs capacity and is 60 inches wide.

Also check specs with the tires you will use, if you get turf tires it will be wider than advertised since a lot of specs are based on narrow ag tires.

Aaron, you are exactly right. In 90's & early 2000's all I sed was Kubotas. But now to high. L3560 w cab & turf tires is north of $38K. Ive been looking at non hydrostatic trans cause needing consistant hole spacing. Im looking at Kioti & TYM. Also, Kioti dealer just told me the CK4020SEH is NOT available in gear, only hydrostat.
Anyone know if a GPS speed indicator could work so I would know my ground speed and then can be consitant BEFORE dropping and engaging the aerator? My work speed will range from 3/4 mph to 1 1/2mph
I appreciate all the input & your time.
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