New rims and tires

[bx2670]

Called dealer (sat) about extra set of rims with industrial tires mounted ,(ready to bolt on).I got turf tires on tractor now because I'm mostly gonna mow grass but would like to have extra grip when I put on extra equipment to do what tractors do best.He quoted me a price of $375.00 plus tax 7% NC and shipping.I'm gonna pull the trigger on the deal I just wanted to ask you guys if that sounds as good of a deal to yall as it sounds to me.The tires alone should cost more than that!!!!

 

[Mounted Madness]

About 3 years ago, I bought a full set of tires/rims for my (then) BX24. Paid $350 plus taxes. Sounds to me like you're getting a fair deal...:thumbsup:

 

[bx2670]

Pulled trigger be here in about a week!!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Sammy3700]

Where are located in NC?

 

[tshep]

I had posted awhile back, with a similar question.
The price seems right, but shouldn't there be a way to get out of shipping?
Anyone know where they come from, I assume K factory - can't a dealer just get these along with the next truck full of tractors anyway?
If they have to be paid shipping, then why can't the trucker come by the house? (Light load, cut the straps and pull them off 1 at a time.)

 

[bx2670]

Mt Airy N.c. (Mayberry) lol being shipped from Ga.factory. Salesman said he does'nt know why Kubota has'nt caught on he figures they think they are being put on a tractor to sell because that would be what they cost if he was ordering it new for someone thats where the shipping cost comes in.I still should get them for under $500.00.I looked under Coleman Equipment site rear tires $188.95 per tire $68.85 per rim front tires $97.00 per tire $45.00 per rim thats $788.60 without taxes or shipping and also I don't think they would be mounted either

 

[tshep]

Any dealers reading?

Get out of customer-paid freight on tires/wheels as, what it is, whole goods - maybe waiting for a truck coming anyway, already paid and full of tractors?

If freight cannot be avoided - can't the trucker come by the house? It's just wheels and tires.

Thanks for any replies!!

 

[sandman2234]

Any dealers reading?

Get out of customer-paid freight on tires/wheels as, what it is, whole goods - maybe waiting for a truck coming anyway, already paid and full of tractors?

If freight cannot be avoided - can't the trucker come by the house? It's just wheels and tires.

Thanks for any replies!!

First reason the trucker can't come by the house is the CSA 2010 rule. It limits the number of hours a driver is allowed to be "on duty" and since he already spent xx hours loading, driving, finding the delivery place, fueling the truck, unloading the truck (after they got to him, found somebody to do it, got the loader fired up and warmed up, coffee drank, etc) The driver has to be off duty before the end of his 14 hours or there is a problem. He would probably end up in your driveway with no way to move the rig, overnight... or at least for 10 hours, and then have to wait on his next dispatch before he moves the truck, because as soon as the key is turned on, he is back on duty and the clock has started for his next 14 hour day and there is NO WAY to stop that clock, except to do another 10 hours in the sleeper berth. Trust me, without substantial pay, the driver isn't likely to just want to drop by and kick the tires off like we could do back years ago.
I have done exactly what you are wanting done with some vehicle hoists, but that was when I could use my sleeper berth to stop my clock and we only needed 8 hours in the sleeper berth (and that could be split in two parts, minimum of 2 hour for a part).
The new rules are choking the truckers ability to make money and that is adding another nail to the economy of this country. They are doing it for "Safety" but when you give a driver a list of things to do, and a maximum time to do it in, and he gets "drowsy" and can't stop the clock, then he has to keep going or risk his job. I see it all the time with the drivers that are under stringent dispatchs. My work has limited me to almost 75 miles less than I can legally drive and limited my stops to 3 whereas I could probably do 5 provided everything goes right. I get paid by the mile with extra $ for each stop. Problem is, if I run out of hours on the way back, I have to go into a motel for 10 hours even if I am 20 miles from home.(no sleeper on my truck)
Hope this starts to explain why your simple reason isn't so simple.
David from jax

 

[Deere Dude]

First reason the trucker can't come by the house is the CSA 2010 rule. It limits the number of hours a driver is allowed to be "on duty" and since he already spent xx hours loading, driving, finding the delivery place, fueling the truck, unloading the truck (after they got to him, found somebody to do it, got the loader fired up and warmed up, coffee drank, etc) The driver has to be off duty before the end of his 14 hours or there is a problem. He would probably end up in your driveway with no way to move the rig, overnight... or at least for 10 hours, and then have to wait on his next dispatch before he moves the truck, because as soon as the key is turned on, he is back on duty and the clock has started for his next 14 hour day and there is NO WAY to stop that clock, except to do another 10 hours in the sleeper berth. Trust me, without substantial pay, the driver isn't likely to just want to drop by and kick the tires off like we could do back years ago.
I have done exactly what you are wanting done with some vehicle hoists, but that was when I could use my sleeper berth to stop my clock and we only needed 8 hours in the sleeper berth (and that could be split in two parts, minimum of 2 hour for a part).
The new rules are choking the truckers ability to make money and that is adding another nail to the economy of this country. They are doing it for "Safety" but when you give a driver a list of things to do, and a maximum time to do it in, and he gets "drowsy" and can't stop the clock, then he has to keep going or risk his job. I see it all the time with the drivers that are under stringent dispatchs. My work has limited me to almost 75 miles less than I can legally drive and limited my stops to 3 whereas I could probably do 5 provided everything goes right. I get paid by the mile with extra $ for each stop. Problem is, if I run out of hours on the way back, I have to go into a motel for 10 hours even if I am 20 miles from home.(no sleeper on my truck)
Hope this starts to explain why your simple reason isn't so simple.
David from jax

That is interesting. I never would have thought that happens that way.

 

[sandman2234]

That is interesting. I never would have thought that happens that way.

Probably the people passing that CSA 2010 didn't think about it either, just decided that the 1930's law must need fixing to decrease the number of accidents. Never thought that maybe the 3 week training (1 class, 1 yard, 1 road) that puts new drivers on the road with less than 100 miles of driving that the government funding was pushing thru had anything to do with it. Or maybe 100 mph dispatchers with 65mph trucks?
Anyway, didn't mean to hijack this thread, back to getting tires for free!
David from jax

 

[equipman]

There is no "free freight" on tractors from Kubota warehouses, each item has freight tacked onto it. Free shipping on an ebay watch purchase and a set of tractor wheels and tires is a very substantial difference in cost.

 

[tshep]

First, I apologize for bad English in previous post - excited I guess.

In reverse order...

Not really knowing that industry, I kinda' assumed once a truck got to a certain fill, that a few more relatively light times didn't add to cost. (Something like $X a ton per mile or whole trailer/truck for $X per mile.) I also thought it was probably a Kubota-owned subsidiary that did the trucking ('K . Logistics LLC' for instance like other corporations have, Walmart, BMW etc.) I have learned to be suspicious of delivery costs that seem to be fixed at the retail end without a distance calculation, and that are as high as 25% of value of items - ie looks just another fixed markup.

Sm - sounds like I inadvertently pushed a personal button - certainly not intended. I also lived under very strange rules and a stacked deck as both a union and then independent contractor electrician.

I once took an Amtrak trip that bumped into a similar rule. A late train stopped about 20 miles from the destination while a new crew rode rode a rail truck out to relieve. Their trip took more than that 20 minutes (couldn't rail ride while train was in motion), and the existing crew still had responsibility for passengers while they worked as they 'rested'. Very weird, but within the rules.

I guess ultimately I'm very suspicious from my previous parts dealers' cavalier attitude on pricing, as I have a used/out of area tractor and will always be a 'little' customer rather than ever being a 'big spender'.


Overall, these tire/wheel goods prices are great - there's just that freight 'kicker' that I was trying to learn how to avoid. After doing some patching myself, my tire guy tells me mounting the small ones alone is worth $30 each in hand labor (too small for car machine, slow and careful hand work as he is guaranteeing not mess up my tires). These 'goods' prices are very much like getting the wheel and the mounting for free. Still, $75 is real money at my house.

Thanks all!

 

[sandman2234]

First, I apologize for bad English in previous post - excited I guess.

Sm - sounds like I inadvertently pushed a personal button - certainly not intended.

Thanks all!

You didn't push my buttons, I was just posting that so "non truckers" could understand a little more about my end of the equation, and why things that seem so easy to do, like just drop the extra tires by your house, have become such a royal pain to get done. Hopefully I didn't come across TOO HARSH, with my reply.

Merry Christmas everybody!!
David from jax

 

[Andrewnewy]

There is not such thing as "free" freight, don't know to many truckers who can run their truck on free fuel or who eat free food, So ultimately the term "free freight" is just a marketing term, it's really wether it's included in the sale price or not!

That price on Tyres is awesome here in Australia a set of Tyres and Rim's would we well over $1200 and that's dealer cost!

 

[sandman2234]

Free freight just means the costs are included in the sale price, or absorbed elsewhere. Sometimes truckers absorb a loss so that they can get out of a no freight, or cheap freight area, to a place where freight pays better. Some people call it a "back haul" but in reality it costs just as much to run the truck out as it does back, but that is marketing.
David from jax

 

[bx2670]

Picked up new tires and rims today,front were $131.00 back were $234.00 $365.00 for set.Taxes $30.08 and shipping UPS $64.76 Total $459.84 I'm happy with that after looking them up on Colemans web site still got them for half of what they wanted:thumbsup:

 

[bx2670]

Could'nt stand it I put on new tires and now it looks more like a tractor!!!!