New Mahindra Trucks

[BTI]

Size wise I believe it is almost the same size of the Ford Ranger.
At under 120 inch wheelbase and 69.68" wide with the mirrors folded in.
It actually has a shorter wheelbase than a Ford Ranger supercab.
Ranger is 69.3 inches wide without mirrors and wheelbase is 125.9 (4x4)
It will actually tow worse (shorter wheelbase) than a Ford Ranger Supercab.

BTI

 

[bindian]

Size wise I believe it is almost the same size of the Ford Ranger.
At under 120 inch wheelbase and 69.68" wide with the mirrors folded in.
It actually has a shorter wheelbase than a Ford Ranger supercab.
Ranger is 69.3 inches wide without mirrors and wheelbase is 125.9 (4x4)
It will actually tow worse (shorter wheelbase) than a Ford Ranger Supercab.

BTI

I don't think many folks will be using it for towing heavy loads. If I get one and tow, it will be just to take my zero turn mower somewhere.............then it will be my 20 foot gooseneck and I won't worry about who's wheelbase is shorter. I will never go back to bumper pull towing. With a 5000 pounds tow limit, I can still tow a 2400 pounds on my trailer. Anything more than that and it will be my dually. I think sales will all be around the idea of 30 mpg in a utility diesel pickup, not who has a smoother ride while towing. That is still 10 mpg better than my dually.
hugs, Brandi

 

[bindian]

Anyone know if Ford is continuing their plan for a TDi F-150? I know that GM cancelled their diesel light-pickup plans last fall. What is wrong with these companies? Chrysler sells their 50Mpg Stratus in Europe but won't (or can't) bring it here. Ford has their 60Mpg Focus in England, etc.

I'll continue to drive my foreign car that gets 40mpg plus (city/highway) until the "American" auto companies come up with a viable solution. Ideally I would like to have a diesel light pickup that would get 30mpg highway. That way I could do away with my mpg-machine and my gas guzzling GM pickup and just only have to deal with one car. They've had the technology for years and they could have been making them before the 2006 ULSD changeover.

Ford is abandoning their once 90% marketshare of ambulance chassis. Watch and see everyone of them go to the Dodge (Mercedes) Sprinter chassis as they get almost 30% better fuel economy.

I might be wrong, but I think Ford has either delayed or canceled the F150 diesel. But that was a magazine last Dec. Maybe now it back on the front burner.
I do know Ford has a problem with bringing the 60 mpg Focus here because of labor cost in the engine. I gather it is made in England and might have some patent issues or something like that to bring it here or the labor cost here to make that engine. I am looking at a Fiesta (for the price and MPGs) for my daughter to replace her Ram 1500. I don't think I can wait around for a 60 mpg Focus.
If I bought a high MPG car....it would be a VW Jetta Turbo Diesel. My friend squezes 48 MPG out hers. That is, when she is not going 70 MPH and getting over 30 MPGs.
hugs, Brandi

 

[tigers2007]

If Ford had their 60+MPG Focus here, they would sell them by the millions. I would personally dump my tdi sedan for the Ford. Heck, everyone I know would dump their sedans for the diesel mileage monster.

I remember reading on a 4x4 forum about how people are trying to "smuggle" up TDI Ford Rangers up from central america. I read that a few are driving around here that got past US Customs. All of the auto companies have compact diesel pickups for that matter. I think GM's are made in Indonesia and then shipped to South America.

 

[gtobill]

More problems for Mahindra:
Breaking: Mahindra Dumps US Distributor | The Truth About Cars

May be a while before we see the trucks.

Bill

 

[bindian]

More problems for Mahindra:
Breaking: Mahindra Dumps US Distributor | The Truth About Cars

May be a while before we see the trucks.

Bill

I am not so sure about that Bill. Mahindra has been saying they were pulling the distribution contract for months, but Global Vehicles (GV) says 都uch attempted termination is invalid under applicable laws of the United States and the State of Georgia, something which Mahindra continues to disregard.
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100826/OEM/100829900/1117
hugs, Brandi

 

[California]

Sure, but good luck sueing a corporation in India using Georgia courts. There is no way to enforce a judgement. There's a long Farmtrac thread on here describing similar futility.

One of the car columnists noted that domestic demand has increased in India by 15%, while Mahindra's suppliers are unable to increase production. They may simply have nothing to ship to the US.

A business columnist (on Bloomberg???) noted that Mahindra just bought a bankrupt S. Korean SUV builder. I wonder if they now plan to send those over instead.

I think the Mahindra trucks just became vaporware.

 

[Inspector507]

From Mahindra's mouth

 

[bindian]

Sure, but good luck sueing a corporation in India using Georgia courts. There is no way to enforce a judgement. There's a long Farmtrac thread on here describing similar futility.

One of the car columnists noted that domestic demand has increased in India by 15%, while Mahindra's suppliers are unable to increase production. They may simply have nothing to ship to the US.

A business columnist (on Bloomberg???) noted that Mahindra just bought a bankrupt S. Korean SUV builder. I wonder if they now plan to send those over instead.

I think the Mahindra trucks just became vaporware.

Think about it California.........if a U S judge says Mahindra NA has illeglly voided a contract with GV, it would be hard for Mahindra NA to bring vehicles into the U S under any other company. GV doesn't have to enforce anything or collect anything. They just have a court stop all imports. End of discussion. I would think Farmtrac is a whole other ballgame, since they already had product here.
Why would Mahindra pull out of the U.S. market after having put so much time and money into getting their trucks EPA certified?:confused2:
hugs, Brandi

 

[bindian]

From Mahindra's mouth

Looks like we will all just have to wait and see, won't we?
Anybody got popcorn?:laughing:
hugs, Brandi

 

[California]

Brandi, I agree it would be difficult for Mahindra to jump to another distributor but I don't think the dispute with GV makes that impossible.

What I'm thinking is 1) GV has no effective way to force Mahindra to resume the agreement, or to force Mahindra to reimburse what GV has spent. So GV is simply left orphaned, stranded and presumably broke.

And 2) I don't think we will ever see those trucks imported here, now. I read on one of those car sites that domestic demand for the Scorpio (SUV upon which the trucks are based) has increased 15% but Mahindra's suppliers are unable to increase production - and these vehicles contain nearly 100% outsourced components! They can't export what they don't have.

It looks like the Indian economy is larger now, and growing more reliably, compared to what it was in 2005-2006 when they decided to export. Now they apparently can't meet local demand so they don't have any need to export.

I think the dream is over.

 

[bindian]

Brandi, I agree it would be difficult for Mahindra to jump to another distributor but I don't think the dispute with GV makes that impossible.

What I'm thinking is 1) GV has no effective way to force Mahindra to resume the agreement, or to force Mahindra to reimburse what GV has spent. So GV is simply left orphaned, stranded and presumably broke.

And 2) I don't think we will ever see those trucks imported here, now. I read on one of those car sites that domestic demand for the Scorpio (SUV upon which the trucks are based) has increased 15% but Mahindra's suppliers are unable to increase production - and these vehicles contain nearly 100% outsourced components! They can't export what they don't have.

It looks like the Indian economy is larger now, and growing more reliably, compared to what it was in 2005-2006 when they decided to export. Now they apparently can't meet local demand so they don't have any need to export.

I think the dream is over.

California,
Your right on all accounts:thumbsup:...............but I am still going to hold my breath.:laughing: I think if what you say is true, Mahindra USA never would have imported their magnificent tractor line here.
hugs, Brandi

 

[Alpocat]

........AND it keeps on going.

India's Mahindra, distributor fight, delaying trucks' debut - USATODAY.com

 

[Scooby074]

this things a real mess. how hard can it be?

 

[California]

How hard can it be?

How hard? Have you been watching the builldup to the Commonwealth Games in Delhi? To summarize, haphazard preparation. This week the athletes are arriving and the site is chaos. Structures collapsing, flooding, plumbing not connected to sewers. They are trying to get it all polished up by opening day. Good luck! The issue to be resolved at this moment is whether the President of India or Prince Phillip will declare the opening. And they have been planning this for six years.

India is a big place. Some projects there get world-class planning such as the new airport and subway in New Delhi. Other endeavors such as the Farmtrac mess and apparently the Commonwealth Games, maybe less. This US distributor situation seems at the moment to be a 'less'.

I hope it works out, I might buy one. But I wouldn't set an expected date yet.

 

[AchingBack]

I just received this email:

Good Morning Mahindra Truck Fans,

Congratulations. You are part of over 30,000 signed up to be the first to experience the hardworking Mahindra trucks.

I know you are wondering when you will have the opportunity to get behind the wheel of one of these amazing, authentic, robust, fuel-efficient trucks at a Mahindra dealer near you. While I cannot give you a firm answer on timing, I can tell you in my estimation, trucks will arrive in the spring of 2011.

Mahindra has applied for and received their EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) certificate, which means the vehicles have passed emission requirements. They also filed with (NHTSA) National Highway Safety Administration, which handles US standards for safety.

With these hurdles completed, it would seem production is imminent, but other factors may hinder the US launch. India’s car sales are on a dramatic trajectory upward. The sales pace combined with an industry wide parts shortage is impacting home market sales, which will have an affect on the United States introduction.

In closing, I know each of you anxiously await the arrival of the Mahindra trucks, and I am confident that you will see a launch announcement in the next few months.

If you haven't seen the Specsheet on the trucks yet, please click on the link below to see it.

Click here to view Specsheet

Or copy and place the following into your browser:

http://mahindrana.com/pdf/specsheet.pdf

Regards,

John A. Perez
CEO
Global Vehicles USA, Inc.
1720 Windward Concourse
Suite 400
Alpharetta, GA 30005

(770) 753-4441 (Office)
(770) 753-4420 (Fax)

Mahindra Clean Diesel Pickup Trucks and SUVs

 

[boaterri]

It looks like Mahindra and Global Vehicles have kissed and made up. I did not know that the NHTSA test had not been done yet.

Rick

 

[LittleBlueTractor]

I was googling for any news on the Mahindra pickup situation and came across this:

Electric car project for Onondaga County collapses | syracuse.com

I'm not getting good vibs about Mahindra from this nonsense. I don't know but it appears this kind of thing might be normal operating procedure for them. Check out the legal doc if you want more detail -- sounds a lot like the Global Vehicle stuff.

 

[RedRock]

Yeah, whenever "Exclusivity" deals are involved, memories get short, greed steps in, truth gets blurred, and lawyers get rich.

I really like the Mahindra trucks, but can't see that's it's going to be practical for anything heavy duty...like hauling a Mahindra tractor on a dual axle trailer, implements and all.

 

[LittleBlueTractor]

I really like the Mahindra trucks, but can't see that's it's going to be practical for anything heavy duty...like hauling a Mahindra tractor on a dual axle trailer, implements and all.

You might be right, but that's what I was hoping to use it for every once in a while -- seeing how it's so flat down here around Houston. Knew with the 5000 lbs. tow limit it would be tight with just the tractor w/FEL and trailer. Figured I could go a little over if I took it easy. When I was evaluating the best tractor for my needs it finally came down to either the LS S3010 or Mahindra 2816. As I remember both weighed about the same.

Guess it doesn't matter at this point with all the legal stuff going on.