New Kioti NX5010 owner.

[twospoons]

I just pulled the trigger on my first tractor. I have spent months researching different brands and options. I want to thank EricTheOracle for posting really good videos about his tractor.

We just purchased 50+ acres in middle TN and yesterday the tractor arrived. I'll post some videos of what my impressions are and what not. I'm by no means an expert operator or owner, I typically learn by doing tons of research and doing. I do feel like a kid when moving dirt with this thing though

The main usages will be building roads, moving dirt, prepping house sites, digging ditches.

I got the NX5010 HST with cab. 6 foot cutter, box blade, pallet forks, front loader (duh) and backhoe.

I'm in the process of searching for good UTF oil for this tractor, and for my 50 hour service I plan to switch out to Shell Spirax S4 TXM. It's pretty expensive, so if there are better options available please feel free to chime in!

I'll make better quality videos in the future, but here is the first;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ela4a6f564w

 

[MinnesotaEric]

You've got to be pretty pleased with yourself!

I've been using Mobilfuild 424. I have no local source and no alternative that I've found. Lacking an oil lab nearby, I have no idea where to go to find out. I've looked all over the internet and I haven't found anything I can easily get my hands on so hopefully a fresh set of eyes will be able to dig something up!

I liked your video.

Can you do me a favor? Can you take a couple of detailed shots as to how Kioti locates the mounts for the subframe? I don't have a backhoe, but if I trip over a used one, I'd like to know how where Kioti locates their backhoe mounts on the 2485, so I know where to locate the mounts for any subframe I fab up for it.

Thanks, and enjoy your new Kioti!

 

[murphy1244]

Congats! but i'm confused as you show a 6010 in the video.

 

[ksbrdmkr]

6010 on the loader but if you look quick 5010 on tractor

 

[Threepoint]

Congratulations, Twospoons!

 

[murphy1244]

6010 on the loader but if you look quick 5010 on tractor

Agh!!!:duh:ullinghair:

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Agh!!!:duh:ullinghair:

No reason to Agh. The loader says KL6010 and tends to obscure the NX5010 logos on the sides of the rear lower hood.

Anyway, all of the NXs have KL6010 loaders and the tractors are identical except the 5510 and 6010 have slightly bigger tires and are cat 1 and 2 compatible three points.

Without cross referencing part numbers, I strongly suspect a EROM flash is what is different in 45-60 hp versions, much the same as modern boat motor and some (some) car engine families that share the same block.

 

[twospoons]

Can you do me a favor? Can you take a couple of detailed shots as to how Kioti locates the mounts for the subframe? I don't have a backhoe, but if I trip over a used one, I'd like to know how where Kioti locates their backhoe mounts on the 2485, so I know where to locate the mounts for any subframe I fab up for it.

Thank you. I took a video of the bracket and how it's mounted. I'll take picture with a better camera if you need more details and not just a general idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbzDvu9Gcoo

The only place I can find Spirex S4 TXM is online. The dealer said any UTF rated oil is sufficient, but I don't mind spending a few extra $ on good oil.

 

[twospoons]

Congratulations, Twospoons!

Thank you. I've got 2-3 hours on the backhoe now, it's pretty jerky if you don't go really smooth and slowly "flow" the controls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgsrZyKWcqI

The only annoyance is the locking bracket which slams down (as you see in the video) if you bring the boom to far back.

 

[Threepoint]

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The only place I can find Spirex S4 TXM is online. The dealer said any UTF rated oil is sufficient, but I don't mind spending a few extra $ on good oil.

The Traveller Premium Universal Hydraulic Fluid at TSC is reportedly made by Warren. It's what I am using in my NX4510HST cab. Can tell no change in performance from what the tractor was delivered with.

 

[ishiboo]

Take a look at this thread I just started, as I am just doing my 50 hour service:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...44920-kioti-hydraulic-fluid-reference-nx.html

I believe the fluid Threepoint suggested would be just fine for your Kioti, I would call the fluid manufacturer to see what they recommend. After doing a bunch of research on this, I think basically any fluid compatible with hydrostatic transmissions (it will say transmission/wet brakes/hydraulics or similar on it) is fine. They all have quite similar lubricative properties, so I don't think an expensive fluid is necessary nor will it prolong the life of parts.

 

[twospoons]

Take a look at this thread I just started, as I am just doing my 50 hour service:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...44920-kioti-hydraulic-fluid-reference-nx.html

I believe the fluid Threepoint suggested would be just fine for your Kioti, I would call the fluid manufacturer to see what they recommend. After doing a bunch of research on this, I think basically any fluid compatible with hydrostatic transmissions (it will say transmission/wet brakes/hydraulics or similar on it) is fine. They all have quite similar lubricative properties, so I don't think an expensive fluid is necessary nor will it prolong the life of parts.

Thank you, that is very helpful. Do you plan on draining all the hydraulic fluid as part of your 50 hour service?

 

[ishiboo]

Thank you, that is very helpful. Do you plan on draining all the hydraulic fluid as part of your 50 hour service?

I did, only because the tricks to remove both filters without draining it seemed like a pain in the butt, so I planned on draining all the fluid. The Kioti manual's chart appears to say you do need to replace it at 50 hours, but then another page of the manual and my dealer both say to re-use it. I drained it into a 5 gallon pails and I have to say that there was a decent amount of fines, as to be expected. (Most I've ever seen is my Mom's Honda lawn mower.)

 

[IndyIan]

I used spirax for my 50hr swap and I wasn't that impressed. It seemed thin, especially for the front axle. Now I have chevron 1000thf in and it seems better but a bit thick in winter... I think for my 400hr service I'm going to go with a full synthetic which is thinner than spirax when cold and thicker than the chevron when hot. Petro Canada has some with a very high viscosity index, nearly like a hydraulic fluid.

 

[twospoons]

I used spirax for my 50hr swap and I wasn't that impressed. It seemed thin, especially for the front axle. Now I have chevron 1000thf in and it seems better but a bit thick in winter... I think for my 400hr service I'm going to go with a full synthetic which is thinner than spirax when cold and thicker than the chevron when hot. Petro Canada has some with a very high viscosity index, nearly like a hydraulic fluid.

What type of synthetic fluid are you looking to get?

 

[k0ua]

The Spirex TXM is available at Wal-Mart. At least down here. The local oil company carries the Mobilfluid 424. Both about the same price at 68 and 69 dollars for a 5 gallon pail. I used the Mobilfluid 424 last time, and probably will again.

 

[IndyIan]

What type of synthetic fluid are you looking to get?

http://lubricants.petro-canada.ca/resource/download.aspx?type=TechData&iproduct=995&language=en

Duratran synthetic, or maybe one of the other synthetics out there. I'll have to check some prices and availability.

 

[liberty2701]

I switched over to Amsoil ath 5w30 in my dk 50 se Nobody is better than amsoil especally when it is -10 outside.

 

[BigToeTN]

Looks like twospoons lives near me, too bad he hasn't posted lately. I'd sure like to know how he is enjoying his Kioti NX.

 

[DieselBound]

I switched over to Amsoil ath 5w30 in my dk 50 se Nobody is better than amsoil especally when it is -10 outside.

0w-30. BETTER. And that's the thing, it's the lower number that matters when talking about cold starts. Engine protection and oil quality is yet another issue, address by higher-end oils. I am unlikely to be alive when I reach the point where any nuances in oil quality (as long as an oil meets what the manufacturer states then it's then only a nuance) is going to matter.

DELO 400 LE and I'm done! (all my diesels run this) Meets Kioti spec. Most important is that you change the oil on time (or in accordance with your working environment), change the oil filter and allow for proper warm-ups and cool-downs.