New Ford Diesel Engine

[NewToy]

There is rumor that Nissan is buying those new cummins for their frontier and titan trucks!

wont that be interesting.

That would really put a strain on the supply of Cummins engines. I can't see that happening, but maybe thats why they expanded the plant in Indiana. I would think Daimler would not like that.
John

 

[HGM]

There is rumor that Nissan is buying those new cummins for their frontier and titan trucks!

wont that be interesting.

I actually heard a while back that the 4.5L PowerStroke was looking for a home in the Nissan..Its hard to say what the future will bring, but it should definitly be interesting..

 

[InlineDieselFan]

IDF, Is the 6.7 going to replace the 5.9 for the 2007 model year? I probably should just break down and get an '06 Dodge before they are all gone.
John

That is the way that I understand it, I do not plan on relacing my 03' for quite some time so I have not been following it closley.

Go over to www.turbodieselregister and go to the forums sections, you will find more Dodge Cummins stuff than you know what to do with.

Or you can do as QTRHRS said and wait a few years, to make sure there are not too many problems.

steve

 

[hilld]

The only problem with Diesels right now is the cost of fuel. Just a recent as 2 years ago (in Oregon), Diesel used to be cheaper than gas (all grades), but hasn't lately. The thing you read in the news is supply and demand causing the prices going up, when will the supply of Diesel be increased to meet the higher demand, or is this just a way to keep the prices artificially higher than they need to be. Right now heating oil is being blamed for the recent run-up (50 cents in the last 2 weeks).



Derek

 

[Doc_Bob]

The thing you read in the news is supply and demand causing the prices going up, when will the supply of Diesel be increased to meet the higher demand, or is this just a way to keep the prices artificially higher than they need to be. Right now heating oil is being blamed for the recent run-up (50 cents in the last 2 weeks).

I will defer to the experts on oil. My understanding is that in a barrel of crude, the amount of diesel and other products is relatively fixed. By this I mean, you can't crack the whole barrel into just diesel or gasoline or JP8.
Bob

 

[_RaT_]

The only problem with Diesels right now is the cost of fuel. Just a recent as 2 years ago (in Oregon), Diesel used to be cheaper than gas (all grades), but hasn't lately. The thing you read in the news is supply and demand causing the prices going up, when will the supply of Diesel be increased to meet the higher demand, or is this just a way to keep the prices artificially higher than they need to be. Right now heating oil is being blamed for the recent run-up (50 cents in the last 2 weeks).



Derek

So this heating oil thing is kind of a East Coast type I take as I don't even know what heating oil is. Diesel is high enough that you really have to have a need for a large diesel pickup. I don't need one anymore and want to get rid of my diesel and find a nice compact truck. A small diesel with great fuel economy would be great, I don't even need much power. A Toyota Tacoma with a straight 4 or V6 diesel would be superb.

 

[Shimon]

Right now heating oil is being blamed for the recent run-up (50 cents in the last 2 weeks).
Derek

I never understood the "heating oil" excuse you hear every winter. As far as I know, winter usually comes around about the same time every year. So I would think the oil companies would ramp up production a little to meet the heating oil needs. They always make it sound like the oil companies were caught off guard by winter and now there isn't enough diesel around to satisfy the heating oil users and the road diesel users.

Maybe someone needs to buy the Exxon CEO a calender with the first day of winter clearly marked.

 

[NewToy]

Do they still make oil fired furnaces? I can't understand why anyone would even consider buying one when you can opt for several more economical options.

 

[_RaT_]

I never understood the "heating oil" excuse you hear every winter. As far as I know, winter usually comes around about the same time every year. So I would think the oil companies would ramp up production a little to meet the heating oil needs. They always make it sound like the oil companies were caught off guard by winter and now there isn't enough diesel around to satisfy the heating oil users and the road diesel users.

Maybe someone needs to buy the Exxon CEO a calender with the first day of winter clearly marked.

I don't know, but consider our population went from 200 million to 300 million since what was it, about 1960 something, is expected to go to 400 million in an even shorter period of time and yet not a single new refinery has been built or is being planned to be built. Throw into that the corresponding increase in autos, toys and personal human demand for even more comfort and ease and I think the refineries are probably passing more crude through then ever before. As was explained to me, the money is in the crude, not the cracking. That plus the fact that the public may want more refineries provide it "ain't in my backyard" as refineries do indeed stink. A new refinery would cost many, many billions of dollars if you could get one through the impact studies. This anyway is what I have been hearing. Now would be a great time to come up with a superior alternative to oil for so many of our needs. How about nuclear generated electricity? Its one area where I think the French have us beat hands down.. (as much as I hate to admit it )

 

[IslandTractor]

Do they still make oil fired furnaces? I can't understand why anyone would even consider buying one when you can opt for several more economical options.

Well, for starters, not all homes/streets have natural gas available. The other alternatives: electric, wood, coal, solar are either more expensive or more hassle than a lot of people want to deal with. Electric might still make sense in the South, but not past the Mason Dixon line. Propane is simply uncommon in the urban/suburban areas that dominate the east coast. Propane is popular in more rural areas up here though.

While in NE gas has been generally cheaper over the past couple of decades, there were some price bumps in the past year or two that made regular home fuel oil cheaper. If the price is even close, the costs of conversion can sometimes sway folks from switching too (though there are incentives). Another reason is the over hyped fear of gas explosions. We get treated to houses blowing up on TV at least once a year and no one ever sees an oil tank explode.

Basically, I'd say the reason people still heat with oil is inertia but there are other reasons too.