New BX25?

[MessickFarmEqu]

For me, the name Kubota represents quality, but there are others whose quality is just as good. And, BTW, Kubota dealers usually sell these other brands and usually will be quite honest with you regarding whether another company's attachment will work better and is more cost effective than the Kubota version.

Amen.. it drives me crazy when a company is simply branding someone elses product. Kubota does it very little compared so some other companies.

 

[shownuff]

looks like this could be a record breakin thread

 

[Roadkill95]

The BX25 will have the D902-E2BX2 Kubota diesel with 23 Gross HP and 17.7 PTO HP
Kevin

Maybe I am just thick in the head. All I am trying to find out here and can't get a straight answer, I get pieces of the puzzle. Now from reading this post I would say there is no differance between a BX24 and BX25. What is the differeance between a BX2660 and a BX25?
Are they both metal fender and hood?
Do they both have the new hydro?
Do they both have the same new seat?
Do they both have the same engine?
Do they both lift the loader at low RPMs?
Thanks

 

[Tom_H]

What is the differeance between a BX2660 and a BX25?
Are they both metal fender and hood?
Do they both have the new hydro?
Do they both have the same new seat?
Do they both have the same engine?
Do they both lift the loader at low RPMs?
Thanks

Hope I am right on all this:

Both have metal fender and hood.

Hydro: don't know

Seat: BX2660 has a brand new tilt back seat. The original BX seat was replaced about a year ago with a more ergonomic seat that doesn't tilt; for a year we'd been calling that one the "new" seat. Now there's a "new" new seat. I don't know whether the BX25 will have that 2nd generation 1 piece seat or the 3rd generation tilt back seat that's on the BX2660. The BX25 has to have a seat that will lift and swivel for bh operation. I wonder if the tilt seat is compatible with that? If not, will there be issues with retrofitting the BX2660 seat when attaching a Woods BH6000?

Engines: Different. The BX2660 has more hp. The BX25 will have an engine with a D902 block. The D1005 block is used as the base for at least 2 different engines, one which runs at 2800 rpm max. and another that runs at 3200 rpm max. BX2660 will have the D1005 that runs at 3200 rpm. You can see all the confusion that came from that in this thread:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-buying-pricing/121119-pictures-bx2660-new-post.html

Loader lift at low rpm: apparently the BX25 does and BX2660 doesn't (I think).

Also BX2660 has 20% larger radiator than BX2230 or BX2350. Don't know how that compares/contrasts with BX24 and BX25.

BX25 comes with FEL and BH. BX2660 comes with neither, but there's an optional FEL, no BH available other than Woods BH6000. (This I'm sure about.)

I hope I got this right. You are right about it seeming like a puzzle, so much overlap and minor differences makes for confusion.

 

[TheFlatlander]

The BX2660 will lift the FEL at idle and does not have the abrupt reverse stop.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

In the BX series. two numerals after the "BX" means it comes with a Kubota backhoe. .

Thanks for that piece of info, I had never looked at the BX line before, but am currently interested in one as a "riding lawnmower", however, I would love to have BH capability.

 

[EmerichSales]

Kubota takes a Great tractor and just makes it even better!

 

[txkevin]

I was talking to the guy who delivered my BX 24 yesterday about the new BX 25's and the price increase. He mentioned that the 3 point hitch that is now included with the BX 24 would be an option on the new BX 25. Not sure if this is true but it may add even more cost than the price increase on the new model presented earlier in the thread.

 

[EmerichSales]

You are correct that the 3pt linkage will be an option on the New BX25. I don't have a price on it yet.

 

[Petethenomad]

Maybe they should call it the BX24 and a half.

 

[KeithInSpace]

You are correct that the 3pt linkage will be an option on the New BX25. I don't have a price on it yet.

Seems odd. That's like selling a car with a hood as an option. Sure, I guess you don't REALLY need it, but what dope would buy a car without one? Even if you don't use it once, it will kill your resale value in 12 years when they are as rare as hens teeth and Kubota charges $1,176.55 for the stupid thing.

Something smells a little fishy.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

In truth, a vast majority of people never use the 3pt. Good point about long term value though. No doubt that 20 years from now we'll be scrambling to find those things.

 

[Petethenomad]

It's a highly competitive market so if a feature isn't being using by most people then it should be taken off and replaced with one that is - or the price reduced to give them an edge. Having it as an option is fine for the minority. Listening to feedback and market research give them the info they need to make these decisions - the trick is getting it right. Kubota seems pretty good at it. There's also a hidden factor perhaps. There's maybe some people out there that never use the hitch but have that need to have a "real" farm tractor - maybe the hitch signifies that - something less tangible than their research picks up. Then there's gotta be lots of people that think the hitch is a great idea but never get round to using it as the machine is meeting all their needs well enough as it is.

In the the real world they'll probably just take it off and charge us more for not having it....sighhh.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

In the the real world they'll probably just take it off and charge us more for not having it....sighhh.

It will look that way, but in truth that cost reduction is offset by rising fuel, freight, and the ever falling dollar. They are sticking to a pretty minimal price increase, it would be still greater with a 3pt included for everyone.

 

[The Gardener]

I have a dealer spec sheet, dated June 5th 2008, here:

-redesigned HST, smoother changes in direction
-Metal hood and fenders
-better seat - as found on Grand L40
-allows loader to move at engine idle
-25.5hp D1005 engine

Having a year+ experience watching my next door neighbor use his superb BX24 in lots of different ways, the only upgrade worth adding to a BX24 would be a hydraulic thumb. A nicer seat is always a welcomed addition to most riding equipment, but the lack of a hydraulic thumb on the BX24 is a huge void in my opinion. That should have been their one upgrade. The BX24 handles an incredible range of jobs with excellent results. Needs beyond its capability would dictate the next size up: a B7610 for ground clearance or a B7800/B2630/B3030 for increased capabilities in most [if not all] categories.

:The Gardener

 

[frank_miller]

I have a dealer spec sheet, dated June 5th 2008, here:

-redesigned HST, smoother changes in direction
-Metal hood and fenders
-better seat - as found on Grand L40
-allows loader to move at engine idle
-25.5hp D1005 engine

Having a year+ experience watching my next door neighbor use his superb BX24 in lots of different ways, the only upgrade worth adding to a BX24 would be a hydraulic thumb. A nicer seat is always a welcomed addition to most riding equipment, but the lack of a hydraulic thumb on the BX24 is a huge void in my opinion. That should have been their one upgrade. The BX24 handles an incredible range of jobs with excellent results. Needs beyond its capability would dictate the next size up: a B7610 for ground clearance or a B7800/B2630/B3030 for increased capabilities in most [if not all] categories.

:The Gardener

the engine you stated is diff them a dealer has posted here. I do not know what the price delta is but buy the looks of it, you are better off with a 24 and save the greenbacks. That is based on poor dollar, materials going over the roof etc.

 

[Petethenomad]

Yeah, I created a bit of confusion early in the thread. My dealer showed me a spec sheet for the BX2660 and said he thought the BX25 would have the same engine and other similar features. I did not make it clear that I was quoting from the Bx2660 sheet, and it seems now that the BX25 will have an emission modified D902, not the D1005. But I have yet to see it for myself!

Could be they are tightening up the number of features included to what they think people want, and fixing little bugs while they're at it. Perhaps also they may be trying to save costs and stay competitive.

 

[shownuff]

kinda of like the cereal boxes or the ice cream boxes getting smaller amounts for the same price redesigning the packages and adjusting the price....usually increasing

 

[Tom_H]

the only upgrade worth adding to a BX24 would be a hydraulic thumb

I would take a hydraulic FEL grapple over a hydraulic bh thumb.

 

[TheFlatlander]

I have read where some people had problems with an abrupt reverse on the BX24's. Is this a problem on ALL BX24's? I think this is something being addressed on the BX25's. Is this a serious enough problem to make a person wait to get a BX25 rather than a BX24?

I would say yes. I have had both the BX2350 (Very short time) and now a BX2660. The reverse stop issue to me was more than an annoyance. See some of the posts on this these folks are not making this up. Definatly like the firm but not abrupt stop on the new series.