New B2650 Owner

[Chad450r]

Delivered today. Looks fine.

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Sweet your going to love that machine, really pleased with mine. While looking at your pictures I spy hooks on your quick attach frame? can you take a closer shot for me when you have a minute please. That is the location I was thinking about putting mine. Nice of the dealer to add them

 

[The Deerslayer]

Outstanding! Enjoy!!

 

[s219]

Looks great.

 

[tman1020]

Nice!!! Let us know how u like it.

 

[Racenh]

Nice looking tractor. Have fun with it.

 

[BigBoyToys]

Gotta love new TOYS!!! :cool2:

 

[varmint]

Tom, looks like you have a great new tool there! Nicely fitted out. Would you say that these B's are sort of equal to baby Grand L's in their features? I'd guess that a 72" blade will be fine for snow work, and as someone else already said, if it is too big for dirt work, just take lighter bites. Now you'll want some LED lighting? SSQA forks? Filled rears? Bucket tooth bar?

 

[HEC]

I sure like mine , I bought the 2650 for the same reason . You may want to change the hyd. filter a little sooner than what the manual says , mine was really dirty .

 

[Paystar]

Verdemont.....nice machine!! Just in case you are interested, did you know you can get hydraulic angle for that blade? Mine is the 60 inch.

 

[Chad450r]

I sure like mine , I bought the 2650 for the same reason . You may want to change the hyd. filter a little sooner than what the manual says , mine was really dirty .

Where was this filter at, didn't know of any canister filters on a b2650.. Maybe a fuel filter.

 

[HJT]

There are 2 of them, one is HST and one is Hydraulic. One on each side a ways in front of axels. hjt

 

[Kubota 2350]

I relocated from Colorado to the east coast reluctantly. I divorced in 2012 and retired from my company of 25+ years (Hewlett Packard). I decided to move back to the east coast where I lived until 1992. I grew up on a farm in Maryland and selected New England as it was someplace I've visited a lot but never lived. And I have family all along the east coast. After two years in Massachusetts, I determined the commute, housing prices and taxes were too waaaaaaaay too high for me. Along the way I met a wonderful woman from Rhode Island and then found a great new job in Providence and then bought a house 25 miles away in the country just a few miles from the Connecticut border. My property is just a few acres and has a house built in 1971 as a replica of a Colonial home. Lots of work to do in the yard and woods over the next 5 years. And as many of us know, a tractor with a FEL is your best friend for just about any project around the house. Since this picture was taken we've already had the roof replaced and will now begin the next 5 years to make it our forever home. The tractor will come in handy as I turn 60 this July and I want it to do the heavy lifting.

Tom


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Congratulations on the new wife and tractor, guess witch one needs the most maintenance.

 

[varmint]

Ah, is "witch one" a simple mistake, as in "which one" or are we getting funny here? Tractors are serious business- like new wives!

 

[Kubota 2350]

Ah, is "witch one" a simple mistake, as in "which one" or are we getting funny here? Tractors are serious business- like new wives!

My bad, **** spell checker.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Anyone notice if the Kubota B2650 Hyd runs on a bit after go pedal released? My second BX25 did and really bothered me so got rid of it and bought a Gehl Skid Steer. Decided SS not what I now want and negotiated a deal with Barlows yesterday for a B2650 R4s rears loaded, SSQA, 60" bucket and add front hyd to operate my front Back hoe. Will place order before end of the month but again doe sthe B2650 stop when the pedal is released without having to apply the brakes?

 

[s219]

Anyone notice if the Kubota B2650 Hyd runs on a bit after go pedal released? My second BX25 did and really bothered me so got rid of it and bought a Gehl Skid Steer. Decided SS not what I now want and negotiated a deal with Barlows yesterday for a B2650 R4s rears loaded, SSQA, 60" bucket and add front hyd to operate my front Back hoe. Will place order before end of the month but again doe sthe B2650 stop when the pedal is released without having to apply the brakes?

You should test drive one to be sure, but I can tell you the one I tried seemed fine, just like my B2920 was and my L3200 is.

Did you follow another thread where the BX-25 "fix" was discussed? It was just an adjustment, which is possible on all Kubotas. Paul Short made a video which describes it better than I can (Kubota BX25D (Problem Solved) - YouTube). Bottom line, the HST treadle "return to neutral" behavior can be adjusted on any of the Kubotas (aside from HST+ models where the behavior is electronically governed) so if it's not the way you like it, adjust it. There is enough range in the adjustments to go from one extreme to the other.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

You should test drive one to be sure, but I can tell you the one I tried seemed fine, just like my B2920 was and my L3200 is.

Did you follow another thread where the BX-25 "fix" was discussed? It was just an adjustment, which is possible on all Kubotas. Paul Short made a video which describes it better than I can (Kubota BX25D (Problem Solved) - YouTube). Bottom line, the HST treadle "return to neutral" behavior can be adjusted on any of the Kubotas (aside from HST+ models where the behavior is electronically governed) so if it's not the way you like it, adjust it. There is enough range in the adjustments to go from one extreme to the other.

The dealers master Kubota mechanic worked on mine twice and the on line concensus seems to be that it is present in the machines. Some people have done some adjustments and since they now only roll a few feet are telling of a fix but I've owned almost 20 Kubotas in the past 12 years with all but one being an HST. The last BX25D-1 that I owned was wrong but most of the buyers believe they are operating OK with rolling when the pedal is fully released and yes, the pedal does return to center and still rolls some. I even pushed the pedal back to past center and it still rolled. If current owners are happy with them operating like this then I finally decided to let them be. The BXxx50 series had an abrupt stop in reverse but not in forward. It never got fixed until the BXxx60 series came out in a short time. Many BXxx50 owners felt theirs was/is OK, my neighbor for one, so it's OK with me but I got rid of the one I had. The RTV1140 will throw me thru the windshield if I let off quick but it can be released slowly for a smooth stop where you want it to stop but not reverse in the BXxx50 series.
Anyway, I was wanting to know if any B2650 owners with previous HST experience or not noticed a run on after pedal is let off and returned to center. I will test the one I buy. I did test other BX25D-1s on the dealers lot after I bought the bad one and they all did it. I have no concern or interest now in what the BX25s do, only the B2650.

PS I looked at the video and if he thinks this is fixed, then leave him be. His continues to go 2 or 3 feet (fixed) after he releases pedal. Never, ever, ever had a HST that traveled after the pedal was centered. and no, it didn't throw me because just like on the RTV1140, you release the pedal smoothly to stop exactly where you want to stop, that's how a properly functioning HST works or they always have for me for the past 12 years.

 

[beckmurph]

Anyone notice if the Kubota B2650 Hyd runs on a bit after go pedal released? My second BX25 did and really bothered me so got rid of it and bought a Gehl Skid Steer. Decided SS not what I now want and negotiated a deal with Barlows yesterday for a B2650 R4s rears loaded, SSQA, 60" bucket and add front hyd to operate my front Back hoe. Will place order before end of the month but again doe sthe B2650 stop when the pedal is released without having to apply the brakes?

JOHNTHOMAS
If my foot has the least pressure on the hst peddle, it will creep. I have not noticed it rolling after I release the hst peddle.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

JOHNTHOMAS
If my foot has the least pressure on the hst peddle, it will creep. I have not noticed it rolling after I release the hst peddle.

Thanks for reply. Every Kubota HST I've owned, except for the one BX25D-1, stopped immediately (tires stop/stopped turning) when my foot came/comes off the go forward pedal and all could be feathered to a slow stop with the foot pedal eased off to dead center. No doubt that there are springs/shocks/stop points that can be adjusted to determine speed/force of return to center on a hyd pedal but that wasn't the issue with the BX25D-1, it would center, foot off pedal and still roll some. Foot off and centered the tires shouldn't be rolling at all. The BXxx50 series from several years ago would stop instantly in reverse but not forward with no feathering pedal. Kubota in short order dropped the 50 series and came out with the 60 series which did not have the problem over the past many years. It's an internal issue and Kubota can get it right, they just sometimes don't and rather than do recalls they just ignore the issues with their products. Not bashing them but just seeing they are no more perfect than other companies. I like em enough to buy another one. :cool2:

 

[s219]

If you look at Paul's video, it stops normally in reverse but forward could still use some adjustment. This is compared to not stopping hardly at all before, in either direction. He adjusted it to the way he wants it, but it can be adjusted more.

The treadle is directly connected to the swash plate in the HST, so there has to be a 1:1 relation. It's the external damper and spring that control how the treadle returns to center, and by mechanical connection, the swash plate. It seems odd that an external spring/damper is responsible for the rate at which the swash plate returns to neutral internally, but that's how they do it. Without the spring on the treadle to push it back to neutral, the swash plate would stay wherever it's set (or waffle a little about that set point). So the spring is the driver back to center. The damper is there just to control the rate of return.

Even before Paul's video I was convinced it was a spring/damper issue based on past experience and the growing number of posts here about people that adjusted their own tractors. Back when I had my 2920, the damper stuck and caused much more coasting than normal. I was able to diagnose and fix the problem, and that's when I learned all about how the treadles work and learned about the internal and external mechanicals. With the spring and damper disconnected, the treadle will stay wherever you move it! The swash plate can't move independently of the treadle so it's not possible for the treadle to center without the swashplate also going into neutral (and vice versa).

It may be that Barlow's looked at it and couldn't fix it on your BX, but they are not infallible (there's another thread going where they botched up a bunch of stuff on someone else's tractor -- real amateur work). Not all tractor techs have the ability to understand spring/damper mechanisms or swash plate controllers. But if you study and understand the mechanism, it's really pretty simple.