boggen
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- SSTT (Sideways Snake Tain Tractor) and STB (sideways train box) tractor, dirt harvester
attach image is my setup...
the distance between house and shed 1 = to far apart for generic cheap wireless router
the distance between shed 1 and shed 2 = to far apart, (no real area on same common wall to place routers easily to have a wireless connection between them)
the distance between house and shed 2 = to far apart.
do to distances being to far apart, i ran RJ-45 cat5 cable (cheap generic network cable) between the 3 (house, shed 1, shed 2)
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house, upstairs router, and down stairs router, house has alumin siding, a/c duct work pretty much chops house up, not to mention not able to get a good single from front of house (out on deck), to back deck. so 2 wireless routers in the house. cable is fairly cheap already have excess of it, so easier to run a cable between the routers. also a tad safer when consider "network security"
shed 1, router 4 is more for convince, have a printer that can connect to a network, but only by cable. ya i could possibly use a "wifi extender" but router cheap enough. and the router has a "bridge or wifi extend" like option in the settings of it. meaning i do not need to run a cable between router 3 and router 4. and if another router went out that i really needed, i could pull router 4, and swap it out for one of the others.
shed 2, eventually router 5 and router 6 will get a cable between them. but not in no real rush, to run cat5 cable up and around trusses to get to the other router.
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the 6 routers spread things out to a point a cell phone, laptop, etc... can connect to the internet via satellite at the house. vs using the cell phone internet if you have cell phone internet. making emails, uploading pictures, videos with cell phone, or just browsing internet faster via the satellite connection. kinda nice being able to open up a laptop in the machine shop, looking up some part manuals, and have it all there were i need it. vs at some desk some place.
being able to hook up some some network cameras. almost demands Rj-45 cable connection between routers due to faster speeds vs trying to send data over wireless connection.
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the crimping tool to put on RJ-45 ends onto end of cables is a little expensive, though the ends "little bit bigger than land line telephone ends" can be bought 10 pack for a couple bucks if that.
--ya gotta have some good eyes though, getting the correct color of wires in correct order when ya stick the wires into the end connector (RJ-45),
--there is no striping of the individual 6 wires, ya just need to make sure when ya cut cable, you make a nice clean 90 cut. and razor blade the external plastic / sheething around the 6 cables. you want to keep as many twists in the cable as possible, ((other words, no large removal of the extier plastic))
--you may take out a couple twists of the cables so each individual wire sticks into the RJ-45 end connector. but generally the external plastic that holds all the wires, on some connectors you need some of that insulation/plastic, to get a correct strong grip on the overall cable. so nothing pulls out.
give yourself a few extra feet. and have some extra end connectors on hand. not making up my own cables all the time, but every couple years, i do mess a few up. and need to cut the RJ-45 end i just put on off, and start again. again the end connectors are cheap enough, and if you do crimp an end connector and goof up things... ya really can not take off the rj-45 connector and try again with same connector, instead ya just chop the bad end connector off, and restart with a new end connector.
a spool of wire from 100 to a couple hundred feet to 500 to a 1000 feet. give or take what ya need. local stores say best buy, menards, lowes, etc... that cable is rather expensive, same goes for normally local privately owned computer stores. search around the cable really is not that expensive. for myself prefer the spool of wire, were ya pull a center cut out, out... and then pull wire out from that spot. helps reduce the tangling as you pull the cable long distances.
--there are different network cable out there... cat5, cat5e, cat6. they all have 6 wires. as long as ya not shooting for 1,000mbs, 1gig connection which is very doubtful except the hard core networking geeks. or a lot of security cameras. 100MBS speed and one of the 3 types of cable will work for ya. you will run out of satellite bandwidth well before you run out of rj-45 network cable bandwidth. this generally goes for city folks as well on there cable or isdn lines.
keep in mind rj-45 cat5 cable you do not want to fold it, always try and keep some bend in the wire. the individual 6 wires inside are a solid wire, and if ya bend/twist them to much, you may end up causing the wires inside the cable to break. ruining the cable. also keep in mind, try to reduce pulling hard on the wires, when snaking them through house or a pipe, the 6 wires in the cable can stretch some. ya really don't want the stretching it could reduce your overall speed of how fast data is sent/recieved through the cable. granted most cables can take a good amount of abuse during insulation. but the cables are not regular 110v or 220v electrical cables that are bigger diameter wire. so try and keep from going white nuckle on the wire as you pull it through the house or through a pipe if possible. and try and keep from wrapping the cable around your hand so you can get a better grip as ya pull on it.
pulling wire = GOOD = grab cable with and, angle wrist down some, and then loop cable around just above your elbow.
--other words, i am sure ya all seen some TV show, were folks are going down some steep wall or climbing. and they have a spotter (not sure technical name) that is holding the rope and they route the rope around their arms/back. vs wrapping it around there hands. this is basically same idea to pulling wire/cable. granted the small amount of wire i have had to pull, vs other experience is very small. but *shrugs*
--granted, when pulling wire and/or cable, ya end up using dish soap, or some sort of wire pulling stuff to slick everything down to make it easier to pull through say a pipe. and you will get messy this way... but... there is a difference.
--pulling this way also keeps "kinks" from happening if you tried to wrap the wire and/or coil around your hands.
--other words use your body, vs killing your hands and possibly the cable.
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the distance between house and shed 1 = to far apart for generic cheap wireless router
the distance between shed 1 and shed 2 = to far apart, (no real area on same common wall to place routers easily to have a wireless connection between them)
the distance between house and shed 2 = to far apart.
do to distances being to far apart, i ran RJ-45 cat5 cable (cheap generic network cable) between the 3 (house, shed 1, shed 2)
=============
house, upstairs router, and down stairs router, house has alumin siding, a/c duct work pretty much chops house up, not to mention not able to get a good single from front of house (out on deck), to back deck. so 2 wireless routers in the house. cable is fairly cheap already have excess of it, so easier to run a cable between the routers. also a tad safer when consider "network security"
shed 1, router 4 is more for convince, have a printer that can connect to a network, but only by cable. ya i could possibly use a "wifi extender" but router cheap enough. and the router has a "bridge or wifi extend" like option in the settings of it. meaning i do not need to run a cable between router 3 and router 4. and if another router went out that i really needed, i could pull router 4, and swap it out for one of the others.
shed 2, eventually router 5 and router 6 will get a cable between them. but not in no real rush, to run cat5 cable up and around trusses to get to the other router.
=============
the 6 routers spread things out to a point a cell phone, laptop, etc... can connect to the internet via satellite at the house. vs using the cell phone internet if you have cell phone internet. making emails, uploading pictures, videos with cell phone, or just browsing internet faster via the satellite connection. kinda nice being able to open up a laptop in the machine shop, looking up some part manuals, and have it all there were i need it. vs at some desk some place.
being able to hook up some some network cameras. almost demands Rj-45 cable connection between routers due to faster speeds vs trying to send data over wireless connection.
==========
the crimping tool to put on RJ-45 ends onto end of cables is a little expensive, though the ends "little bit bigger than land line telephone ends" can be bought 10 pack for a couple bucks if that.
--ya gotta have some good eyes though, getting the correct color of wires in correct order when ya stick the wires into the end connector (RJ-45),
--there is no striping of the individual 6 wires, ya just need to make sure when ya cut cable, you make a nice clean 90 cut. and razor blade the external plastic / sheething around the 6 cables. you want to keep as many twists in the cable as possible, ((other words, no large removal of the extier plastic))
--you may take out a couple twists of the cables so each individual wire sticks into the RJ-45 end connector. but generally the external plastic that holds all the wires, on some connectors you need some of that insulation/plastic, to get a correct strong grip on the overall cable. so nothing pulls out.
give yourself a few extra feet. and have some extra end connectors on hand. not making up my own cables all the time, but every couple years, i do mess a few up. and need to cut the RJ-45 end i just put on off, and start again. again the end connectors are cheap enough, and if you do crimp an end connector and goof up things... ya really can not take off the rj-45 connector and try again with same connector, instead ya just chop the bad end connector off, and restart with a new end connector.
a spool of wire from 100 to a couple hundred feet to 500 to a 1000 feet. give or take what ya need. local stores say best buy, menards, lowes, etc... that cable is rather expensive, same goes for normally local privately owned computer stores. search around the cable really is not that expensive. for myself prefer the spool of wire, were ya pull a center cut out, out... and then pull wire out from that spot. helps reduce the tangling as you pull the cable long distances.
--there are different network cable out there... cat5, cat5e, cat6. they all have 6 wires. as long as ya not shooting for 1,000mbs, 1gig connection which is very doubtful except the hard core networking geeks. or a lot of security cameras. 100MBS speed and one of the 3 types of cable will work for ya. you will run out of satellite bandwidth well before you run out of rj-45 network cable bandwidth. this generally goes for city folks as well on there cable or isdn lines.
keep in mind rj-45 cat5 cable you do not want to fold it, always try and keep some bend in the wire. the individual 6 wires inside are a solid wire, and if ya bend/twist them to much, you may end up causing the wires inside the cable to break. ruining the cable. also keep in mind, try to reduce pulling hard on the wires, when snaking them through house or a pipe, the 6 wires in the cable can stretch some. ya really don't want the stretching it could reduce your overall speed of how fast data is sent/recieved through the cable. granted most cables can take a good amount of abuse during insulation. but the cables are not regular 110v or 220v electrical cables that are bigger diameter wire. so try and keep from going white nuckle on the wire as you pull it through the house or through a pipe if possible. and try and keep from wrapping the cable around your hand so you can get a better grip as ya pull on it.
pulling wire = GOOD = grab cable with and, angle wrist down some, and then loop cable around just above your elbow.
--other words, i am sure ya all seen some TV show, were folks are going down some steep wall or climbing. and they have a spotter (not sure technical name) that is holding the rope and they route the rope around their arms/back. vs wrapping it around there hands. this is basically same idea to pulling wire/cable. granted the small amount of wire i have had to pull, vs other experience is very small. but *shrugs*
--granted, when pulling wire and/or cable, ya end up using dish soap, or some sort of wire pulling stuff to slick everything down to make it easier to pull through say a pipe. and you will get messy this way... but... there is a difference.
--pulling this way also keeps "kinks" from happening if you tried to wrap the wire and/or coil around your hands.
--other words use your body, vs killing your hands and possibly the cable.
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