Neighbor doesn't want me to farm.

[MossRoad]

I would much rather be nice when I can.

There's your problem! :laughing:

 

[WoodChuckDad]

There's your problem! :laughing:

It is an easy problem to solve and one that I am very adept at solving. I just don't like it. Much like a quote I have held onto, in the dark recesses of my mind, from a B rate movie 20 years ago. Protagonist says he doesn't approve of violence. Plot unfolds and he exhibits an unsettling capacity to that end. When challenged on it, he says "I said I don't approve of violence. I never said I wasn't good at it." Same basic line from Quigley down under. He said he never had much use for a pistol....shoots the other guy down in a duel and states that he never said he didn't know how to use one.. I can be a big old bag-0-d!(*$ when the situation warrants. I've just spent too much of my life being a professional a$$hat. I enjoy life more when I find better ways to resolve my problems.

 

[MossRoad]

Good attitude.

I remember that line from Quigley. Good stuff.

 

[ch1ch2]

Being nice is not a problem!
Alway be nice even when you screw someone. Some people are slow learners. If you act nice they never know you do not like them and they never put their guard up. I know from all the nice people who screwed me. I was a slow learner.

 

[ch1ch2]

Being nice is not a problem!
Alway be nice even when you screw someone. Some people are slow learners. If you act nice they never know you do not like them and they never put their guard up. I know from all the nice people who screwed me. I was a slow learner.

 

[flusher]

Easy solution: you need to plant a barrier between your apple orchard and your neighbor's property to minimize any spraying carryover getting on their place. Suggest some type of tall, fast growing hedge or windbreak (oleander, Italian cypress, etc).

Good luck

 

[forgeblast]

Even bush willow, they will get 15' tall and provide a nice wind break. I bought mine from a place in ny.

 

[davesl708]

Woodchuckdad.

Sounds like you have neighbors that don't care about reason, logic or your rights. They only know what they want and anything else is bad.
If you put up a screen that will also not make them happy.

I would just go about setting up your orchard and not have any discussion with them. Spray when the wind is favorable.
They may see that it is not the disaster they think it is and will appreciate the blooms in the spring.

 

[ch1ch2]

Evil dies when ignored.
“Give evil nothing to oppose and it will disappear by itself.”

Kindness always wins. Evil always loses.
“Treat those who are good with goodness, and also treat those who are not good with goodness. Thus goodness is attained. Be honest to those who are honest, and be also honest to those who are not honest. Thus honesty is attained.”

“Kindness in words creates confidence. Kindness in thinking creates profoundness. Kindness in giving creates love.”
“Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage.”

Lessons Everyone Can Learn From Lao Tzu

 

[KubotaToy]

Kh

Evil dies when ignored.
敵ive evil nothing to oppose and it will disappear by itself.

Kindness always wins. Evil always loses.
å…¸reat those who are good with goodness, and also treat those who are not good with goodness. Thus goodness is attained. Be honest to those who are honest, and be also honest to those who are not honest. Thus honesty is attained.

�indness in words creates confidence. Kindness in thinking creates profoundness. Kindness in giving creates love.
釘eing deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage.

Lessons Everyone Can Learn From Lao Tzu

You live in a better world than I do, you would be taken advantage of by the folks around me.

 

[WoodChuckDad]

I got a response from the neighbors. Thanking me for leaving the trees between orchard edge and property line and acknowledging the property line markings that I made. He suggested marking the corners with metal fence posts since the last survey used flimsy pins. Said he purchased some last year but never put them in. I will offer to help put them in. That keeps us both satisfied as to their veracity.
Good fences make good neighbors.

 

[riptides]

I got a response from the neighbors. Thanking me for leaving the trees between orchard edge and property line and acknowledging the property line markings that I made. He suggested marking the corners with metal fence posts since the last survey used flimsy pins. Said he purchased some last year but never put them in. I will offer to help put them in. That keeps us both satisfied as to their veracity.
Good fences make good neighbors.

Wow. Rational people! Man, great for you both.

It's hard reading some of the replies in these "neighbor" threads. Some of us are fortunate for "good" people living nearby, others not so much.

 

[Looking4new]

I got a response from the neighbors. Thanking me for leaving the trees between orchard edge and property line and acknowledging the property line markings that I made. He suggested marking the corners with metal fence posts since the last survey used flimsy pins. Said he purchased some last year but never put them in. I will offer to help put them in. That keeps us both satisfied as to their veracity.
Good fences make good neighbors.

I am happy you've got it all resolved.

 

[davesl708]

I got a response from the neighbors. Thanking me for leaving the trees between orchard edge and property line and acknowledging the property line markings that I made. He suggested marking the corners with metal fence posts since the last survey used flimsy pins. Said he purchased some last year but never put them in. I will offer to help put them in. That keeps us both satisfied as to their veracity.
Good fences make good neighbors.

That is great news. By the neighbors response I assume they are ok with your plans for the orchard?

 

[2LaneCruzer]

I got a response from the neighbors. Thanking me for leaving the trees between orchard edge and property line and acknowledging the property line markings that I made. He suggested marking the corners with metal fence posts since the last survey used flimsy pins. Said he purchased some last year but never put them in. I will offer to help put them in. That keeps us both satisfied as to their veracity.
Good fences make good neighbors.

Good going...sometimes a rational approach is the best. Now you won't have the aggravation of living next to a hostile neighbor.

 

[WoodChuckDad]

That is great news. By the neighbors response I assume they are ok with your plans for the orchard?

I think that they understand that I am going to do what I have set out to do. And that they don't have a part in the decision making process. But that I am also being considerate but won't be taken advantage of.
Establishing clear boundaries is important. I had assumed that they would never question my plans since they involved my land and not theirs. Their background is different than mine so the frame of reference is probably different as well. I'm hopeful that this will smooth things thru and they will realize this isn't a bad thing. I'd prefer not having to bother with it but if the choice is to spend a bit of time on diplomacy vs having neighbors who hate you and complain all the time, then I will make the effort.

 

[jack707]

If that was my land I would put a hog farm close to his house!

 

[davesl708]

I think that they understand that I am going to do what I have set out to do. And that they don't have a part in the decision making process. But that I am also being considerate but won't be taken advantage of.
Establishing clear boundaries is important. I had assumed that they would never question my plans since they involved my land and not theirs. Their background is different than mine so the frame of reference is probably different as well. I'm hopeful that this will smooth things thru and they will realize this isn't a bad thing. I'd prefer not having to bother with it but if the choice is to spend a bit of time on diplomacy vs having neighbors who hate you and complain all the time, then I will make the effort.

Win win situation.:thumbsup: I bet they appreciate the blooms in spring. Maybe buy some fresh apples.:licking:

 

[R_Walter]

Do like me. Don't have any neighbors.

 

[MossRoad]

I got a response from the neighbors. Thanking me for leaving the trees between orchard edge and property line and acknowledging the property line markings that I made. He suggested marking the corners with metal fence posts since the last survey used flimsy pins. Said he purchased some last year but never put them in. I will offer to help put them in. That keeps us both satisfied as to their veracity.
Good fences make good neighbors.

When you go out to help him, don't turn you back on him.... he's already got a shovel!