Need advice on my YM1301D

YM1301D · Jun 6, 2012

I bought a 1301D a few years ago and it's been a brilliant little tractor, I've tried several times to track down a manual for it but there doesn't seem to be one? The front drive / steering mechanism (not sure what it's properly called) is getting loose and I really want to get it sorted, (anyone have a pdf that shows this?) There's about half an inch of sideways movement on the top/bottom of the front wheels now, is there a way to tighten these up or does something have to be replaced? Thanks.

winston1 · Jun 6, 2012

Probably needs some bearing replacement. Hoyes parts sight has the drawings on it. They would also have a parts manual for it. Yanmar Tractor Parts: 4WD INTERNAL

Yanmar Tractor Parts: 4WD EXTERNAL

kwin · Jun 6, 2012

yours is like mine as I have the 1300d here is a link to the parts brake down. It sounds like you need kingpin busing on it. Winston beat me to it

http://www.hoyetractor.com/CATALOG/1300/4WD-INT.jpg

YM1301D · Jun 7, 2012

Thanks guys :thumbsup: that's a great help.
I tried Hoyes for the manual but if you click on the 1301D link, then click 'manual' it takes you to a page that asks you to choose your Yanmar model from two lists, one U.S. models the other Japanese, but 1301D is not on either of them

I'll email them and see what the deal is.

Anyone know if 6.5/80 - 12 tyres will fit on the front rims? (existing ones are 5 x 12) Would be nice to get a little extra width up front.

YM1301D · Jun 8, 2012

Hoyes are a nightmare. After a whole evening wasted searching their site and loads of emails I finally find out there is no manual for the 1301D, they says there's a similar American model they have one for but wont tell me what it is, and want $50 dollars for it on CD and another $50 for postage...

284 International · Jun 8, 2012

YM1301D said:
Hoyes are a nightmare. After a whole evening wasted searching their site and loads of emails I finally find out there is no manual for the 1301D, they says there's a similar American model they have one for but wont tell me what it is, and want $50 dollars for it on CD and another $50 for postage...

Hmm. I went to their site. There is a heading that says parts. Several, in fact. Clicking them brings me to a long list of models. When clicked, 1301 brings me to a page with 4 sections, one of which is manuals. Parts manuals brings up another page...with manuals. Parts manuals again takes me to a page with a drop down menu. 1301 is an option.
The price shown in the basket is $39.99.

I can't speak as to whether that system is too confusing for you, but it seems easy enough to me. Google searching for "Hoye parts manual" yielded the same page, as the very first result.

The manuals cost what they cost. If you don't like it, don't order one. I imagine if you explained you were in Ireland and only wanted a digital copy they might be willing to work with you.

I haven't ordered often from them, but have called them for help a
couple times. Aaron was EXTREMELY friendly and helpful, even for something that they didn't have and wouldn't typically stock. Characterizing them as rude and unhelpful is incongruent with anything I have ever heard.

The 1301 doesn't correspond to any US model. It is similar to many. Really, all of them are more or less the same, different only in size and transmission type amongst the YM series. While torque specifications or other minor details may be different, the principles are identical. The 1301 has an engine I think is unique to it and the FX13/F14, not really the most common machines.

Nobody here will have an English language service manual. But, probably, the sister machines in the line, the 1401, for instance, are close enough to use their numbers. And the 1401's numbers are close enough to some English-language market units that they should be close enough. But recognize the degrees of separation at work. We own imported, old machines that were never intended to be sold here. There is a community of owners online who have, over the years, pooled information and experience garnered through blood, sweat, dollars, and much gnashing of teeth.

They have been anchored by a few suppliers, in particular Hoye in Texas and LMTC in Ohio (lately about the only suppliers here known to be active on the boards at all) who have labored to compile parts, old stock components, salvage tractors, and even new-run pieces for these out of date machines.

I'm still new here, and am not official in any way. But when I showed up, asking questions many times covered, members of this board spent hours and days, literally on Christmas day, helping me puzzle through an enigma on a bombed-out, abused YM240. The crew here LOVES to help new people through difficult spots and overcome the trouble together. They will, and have, bent over backwards for me and dozens of others.

Speaking poorly of, and complaining about Hoye in this fashion just won't fly. It is anathema to the group dynamic and counter to all we know and have experienced. Help us expand the corpus of knowledge here by teaching what you learn about your YM1301D. Talking about Hoye as anger inducing and non-helpful won't do that.

YM1301D · Jun 9, 2012

No service manual for the 1301D, parts manual available for the 1301 is in Japanese.

284 International · Jun 9, 2012

YM1301D said:
...anyone have a pdf that shows this?

Wasn't the parts manual what you were looking for? It will look much like the diagrams on Hoye's website, and have tables with Yanmar's part numbers corresponding to sequentially numbered components on each page. It will show you exploded diagrams by section, and show what goes where. The explanation and description of the part will be in Japanese script; the numbers are all Arabic numerals.

The service manual will be "close enough." It won't give step by step instructions for your machine. It will give instructions for whatever the most similar tractor is. I haven't bought any manuals from Hoye, so don't know exactly what they are like. The tractor service manuals I do have assume and require genuine mechanical knowledge and equipment. None say what size wrenches are required or which direction to turn things to tighten or loosen a fastener.

The overwhelming majority is text, with a few black and white photographs that may or may not help very much. They are not Ikea instructions to work on a tractor, in other words, but they give good guidance and have the torque specifications for some specific fasteners. Other, generic fasteners are tightened according to a table based on the fastener's major diameter and are not specific to Yanmar.

The only manuals I have are I&T for my Yanmars and Ford, and both factory and I&T manuals for my IH machines. I do not have any factory Yanmar manuals. I do not know if that is what Hoye sells, or if they are better/worse than the I&T versions.

jerrybob · Jun 9, 2012

Wow.....I have to agree with 284. Badmouthing Hoye is sacrileges in my opinion. Can't speak about your 1301D but I can tell you I bought a service and parts manual for my 186D....great info. and quality. I have spoken to them on numerous occasions.....always helpful. I have ordered parts......never a problem. I hope you find what you're looking for but take it easy on Hoye....great folks to deal with.

YM1301D · Jul 4, 2012

I got some time today to strip the knuckle joint down and see what the cause of the play in it is, looks to be just the bushing #61 in the Hoye diagram Yanmar Tractor Parts: 4WD INTERNAL which they dont seem to have, anyone know where I might get a couple of these?