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Need a new toilet. What is the best choice?

   / Need a new toilet. What is the best choice? #41  
Toto Drake. I won't install anything else. Cheap too - costs $150. You can pay a lot more for a Toto that's fancier, but it does the job great.

I don't like the pressure ones on the KISS rule.
 
   / Need a new toilet. What is the best choice? #42  
At the risk of being referred to as an "idiot" again for discussing non-tractor issues: :D

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Unfortunately, a 1.6 gallon toilet is never going to have enough water in the bowl. And that problem is not going to change.

Amen to that. One jusst has to accept the occasional...okay, regular, skid marks.

Harry K
 
   / Need a new toilet. What is the best choice? #43  
Ive never been to *um-hum* gentle with the Cadet and its always given a good clean flush. Matter of fact it seem to stay cleaner than the old hi-flow that it replaced. The porcelin seems to be better glazed than the old one? if thats possible.
 
   / Need a new toilet. What is the best choice? #44  
Ive never been to *um-hum* gentle with the Cadet and its always given a good clean flush. Matter of fact it seem to stay cleaner than the old hi-flow that it replaced. The porcelin seems to be better glazed than the old one? if thats possible.

Must be. It is one of the Toto bragging points in their literature "Micropore"

Harry K
 
   / Need a new toilet. What is the best choice? #45  
Must be. It is one of the Toto bragging points in their literature "Micropore"

:D Its kinda funny how much technology and effort is being made to get the ultimate toilet. And how much there is for US to talk about. :D:D

So Toto has a copyright or patent on their Micropore potty. :D I had to look. :) Toto also has " SanaGloss: Super smooth, ion barrier glazing cleans your toilet bowl with everyflush. "

Ya know life cannot be too bad when we can spend this much effort to have a Super Smooth Ion Barrier technology to insure we have a clean toilet after every flush. :D:D:D

On the other hand I don't think I appreciate their toilet names. I don't think I want to sit on a Carolina. :) Now a Duke or NC State fan might like a Carolina in the house. :eek::D But what if you name is Clayton. I knows some Claytons. Would they want a Clayton sitting on a Clayton?:D

Later,
Dan
 
   / Need a new toilet. What is the best choice?
  • Thread Starter
#46  
Thank you everyone for your suggestions and advice.

After reading all your comments and from what I read online, I was all set to go buy a Toto toilet. There is one company in town that sells them, but it's not one of my favorite plumbing supply houses. I spoke to a guy there, and asked him what he recomended for a toilet. I told him my requirements, that it flushes and the bowl remains clean. The clean bown is really a huge issue for me because I've been scrubbing my current bowl after every use for the last few years. Why it took me so long to do something about this is a mystery, but it never did fix itself!!!

He told me that they recomend American Standard and that it flushes better then the Toto, costs allot less and is easier to get parts for it. This really shocked me. American Standard is what I have now and what I hate so much. I asked him about his other brands, but he said they sell mostly American Standard and not allot of the other, high dollar toilets. I asked specifically about Toto. He said that they carried them, but he didn't know very much about them. I got a price from him to pretend like I was interested and still shopping around, but really, I was a but confused and unsure what else to do.

The supply house that I really like was where I was going to next, but while driving there, I pulled into another on the way. I never noticed this place before, never knew they existed. I played the same game with them, but this time it was Kohler as the one that they sell the most of. I asked about Toto, and he said they used to carry them, but dropped them because of complaints and dificulty getting parts for them. Again, I left there confused and unsure of what to buy.

My favorite supply house was packed with plumbers, which is probably why I go there too. They are always busy, and I think there is a reason for that. They are more expensive for simple stuff that I can get at the box store, but for a special part, they are my first choice. I asked the same question and this time they said that the Crane Titan was the very best toilet that they sold, and to their knowledge, the best one that you can get. I asked what made it better, and was told it's the size of the trap. It's 3 inches and allows everything to flow through it better then the other toilets out there. I asked if they sell many, and was told it's what they sell to all the hotels. Some hotels have pulled other brands out, including Toto, and replaced them with the Crane Titan.

Two of the plumbers sitting at the counter also commented that the Titan is the best toilet that they know of.

Then I asked about the power flush feature and if it does a better job. The guy at the counter said he wouldn't sell a power flush to his worst enemy. The noise is one part of it, but fixing them is extremely dificult and can be very, VERY expensive for the parts.

So I bought the Crane Titan. It cost $250 for the bowl, tank and seat. The wax ring and mounting bolts were extra for a total cost of $303 plus some change.

I'm grouting the tile today, then I'll seal the grout and install the base boards in the morning. After that, I'll give a report on the toilet and if I messed up or got lucky.

Thank you,
Eddie
 
   / Need a new toilet. What is the best choice? #47  
Eddie,
since you already bought one this is of no use to you, but I did have to agree with those singing the praise of Toto's. I believe it's named after Dorthy's dog in The Wizard of Oz! I have two in my house, and I'm very sure you could flush Dorth's dog down in one flush! I don't even know where my plunger is anymore.
Jack
 
   / Need a new toilet. What is the best choice? #49  
I am on tenterhooks waiting for oyur first person review.
Oh I hat these French toilets. They hold about 2 cups of water in the bowl and that is it. As my hsuband would say aftr a "big one" you always always have to scrub. However there is one toil bowl clenaer that is amazing, simply amazing. You just squirt in the toilet bowl cleaner and it literally melts the stuff away, no scrubbing. For five years I have been scrubbing away then about 2 months ago my husband brought this stuff home and what a difference.
 
   / Need a new toilet. What is the best choice? #50  
Eddie, be sure to eat plenty of spinach or other greens to "break" it in easy!;);):D
 
   / Need a new toilet. What is the best choice?
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#51  
We've tested the new toilet a few times and it's doing what toilets are supposed to do. Bowl is clean, no scrubbing and everything goes away with one flush.

Besides hating the previous toilet, I also hated the tile that I had installed. It was free from a house that I built and had wanted to use a neutral tile. At the time, it wasn't such a problem, but over the last couple of years, it's really started to look worse and worse to me.

I also wanted to do floor tile without spacers for the grout. I haven't seen this on floor tile before, and nobody that I've worked for has wanted to try it either. Steph liked the idea of small grout lines, so that's all I needed to hear.

The tiles are 18 inches and I installed them touching each other. I then used non sanded grout, that I sealed this morning. You can still see the wet areas in the grout from the sealer, but that's fading away.

Eddie
 

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   / Need a new toilet. What is the best choice? #52  
Wow Eddie, you've been busy in more ways than two!:D
 
   / Need a new toilet. What is the best choice? #54  
Butting up tiles leaving a very small grout line is common with tiles like granite, marble, etc. The corners chip easy so you keep them close together. I butted up some ceramic tile I put on a countertop. Trying to make it as smooth as possible. We still used sanded grout. I had a bad expierence with non sanded grout in a tub surround once. It dries a lot quicker and was very hard to get off the tiles. I had to use a razor on the tiles! Not fun!
 

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