Nasty Little Hydrostatic Transmission Secrets...

   / Nasty Little Hydrostatic Transmission Secrets... #41  
How well does your tc 35 handle a 6' cutter? I have a 1920 and was thinking of getting a 6' cutter.

Any difficulties in thick / tall stuff?

Soundguy
 
   / Nasty Little Hydrostatic Transmission Secrets... #42  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( How well does your tc 35 handle a 6' cutter? I have a 1920 and was thinking of getting a 6' cutter. Any difficulties in thick / tall stuff?

Soundguy )</font>

Hi Soundguy,

HA! I wish I knew! I got the 6 footer in Oct, and the grass wasn't very tall when I made the last cut of the season. Actually, that last cut was optional, and more or less to try out the new tractor and brush hog.

There's only dead grass and soggy ground right now. However, 2 more weeks of warm dry weather will make the grass and weeds shoot up waist high. I'll let you know in 2-4 weeks. If not, remind me!
 
   / Nasty Little Hydrostatic Transmission Secrets... #43  
It appears all the Class III drive ratios are the same. The final drive parts differences seem to all be related to the bull gears and axle shafts on the 40 and 45. The differential shafts are the same, so it is unlikely the final drive ratios are different. The axle shafts and related parts are probably bigger. The ring and pinion differences are harder to pin down, but appear NOT to be model related. This from a quick review of parts and service info this AM.
 
   / Nasty Little Hydrostatic Transmission Secrets... #44  
Someone needs to contact the Nebraska Tractor Test Laboratory and find out if they have tested any of these compact tractors. What we need is a TC 45 gear and TC 45 hydro tested at Nebraska that would answer all questions.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You must be retired? Or a pilot..
)</font>

I am not a pilot! ...but I'll take cash from one if he has two picture IDs. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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#46  
Thanks, Rick. I appreciate your help and inside knowledge. I truly don't consider this a big issue despite my over-dramatic sounding title to this thread. I just think it's a curiousity. I'm still very happy to have that extra lift capability my tractor offers and also the knowledge that I will probably never lug my engine down while pulling. I've only killed the engine once since I've owned the tractor. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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#47  
Wall, I saw a list once and none of the New Holland Boomers were on it. I think Nebraska only tests tractors of 20 hp or more that are considered "agricultural" tractors. These CUTs may not fit that niche. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
   / Nasty Little Hydrostatic Transmission Secrets... #48  
Soundguy,

I have a 6' rhino cutter for my TC40D and it does great. I've cut acres of 5' tall stuff mixed with 1-3" trees. Chopped it all down just fine. Of course, you do have to go a bit slower at times /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
   / Nasty Little Hydrostatic Transmission Secrets... #49  
Hmm.. anyone out there with a 1920 and a 6' mower? I know the tc 40 is close.. but it is maybee a tad bigger.

I originally had the 5' mower for my 8n and NAA.. but when cutting on the 1920.. I just feel that it isn't 'working' hard.. and that a 6' would cut down on my 4 hour mowing time a bit.

Boy.. now how to 'sell' the wife on getting another mower after only a couple years... might as well buy a sleeping bag for the barn while I'm at it.

Soundguy
 
   / Nasty Little Hydrostatic Transmission Secrets... #50  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Brad, when I go light on the throttle I am not getting all the horse power to the wheels unless I put my foot into it. )</font>

George,

By light on the pedal, I meant the hydro pedal. Running wide open throttle with only pushing the hydro pedal down 1/4 of the way or even less, that should be the most power. Most of the time mine will spin, but under good traction conditions, even just touching the pedal will not spin the tires, indicating to me the relief valve as kicked in. It does not lug the engine much during this slipping. At that point if I push the pedal all the way down, of course it lugs down and eventually stalls. But that is the same as taking a geared machine to its limit in low gear, and when it doesn't go, shifting to a higher gear and dumping the clutch. Again, it's going to stall.

I would be interested to hear what happens on your machine if you try just lightly touching the hydro pedal in low range, forward or reverse, under heavy load such as a steep hill where you usually can lug or stall. It won't go fast, but I'll bet it goes. I've never stopped my wheels pulling a heavy load. The only time was pushing into an immovable object such as a pile of frozen snow.

Brad
 
   / Nasty Little Hydrostatic Transmission Secrets... #51  
Very interesting thread. Thanks to all. I bought a TC 45DA HST and thought I might of had a problem with it but now I see it is the nature of the HST. I bought it used and thought I might have gotten taken. I never had a hydro before and it is convenient. I'm used to a geared tractor where the tractor would stall when you tried to pull/push to much. I was doing like ScandaBrad was doing with the icy snow and noticed the tractor was running out of pushing power yet the engine wasn't even straining. Now I know why.... I didn't do all my homework on HST's. I love the tractor though, just a oversight on my part. Well anyway, I guess it is working as it should and nothing is busted!! Happy New Year!!
 
   / Nasty Little Hydrostatic Transmission Secrets... #52  
So if what I am reading here you must always have it in low to reverse up a 30 deg grade. If I have mine in rabbit it will make it up about 75 feet of a 150 foot 30 deg grade then it will stop and just whine. I have the foot pedal fully depressed? The wheels don't spin,it just won't go any further. I only have a 200lb. load on the loader. Is this normal? Should I use low range (I didn't try that)? I changed the filters and put substitute Wix filters on it I thought that might be the problem. I haven't put much time on the tractor and it is my 1st hydro static. With my gear tractors it will go spin the wheels and if it can't it will stall out. Help me out here. Do I have a bum tractor or a dumb operator?? :0) It's been so wet here this summer I really can't do a whole lot without tearing everything up.So I put it in rabbit mode to get a running start as to not tear up all the sod. Just leaves ruts that will eventually come out.
 
   / Nasty Little Hydrostatic Transmission Secrets... #53  
"I have the foot pedal fully depressed?"

When you fully depress the pedal, you are basically going in a higher gear without adding power. When the going gets tough, drop it in a lower range.
 
   / Nasty Little Hydrostatic Transmission Secrets... #54  
"I have the foot pedal fully depressed?"

You have to reverse your thinking. As the tractor loses power, you have to let up on the hydro pedal to get more power to the wheels. If it still won't go, you have to go to a lower transmission range.
 

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