My hour meter jumped ahead!

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curdog76

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Kioti CK 25 - Four months old. My battery was dead this morning. I jumped it off and mowed for an hour and a half. On the way back to the house I noticed that in that hour and a half, my hour meter had jumped ahead 17 hours. What happened? Can a dead battery make that happen?
 
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curdog76 said:
Kioti CK 25 - Four months old. My battery was dead this morning. I jumped it off and mowed for an hour and a half. On the way back to the house I noticed that in that hour and a half, my hour meter had jumped ahead 17 hours. What happened? Can a dead battery make that happen?

Possible the key was left on an your meter runs whenever the key is on. It took 17 hours to kill the battery.
 
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My money is with Orezok on this one. What were you doing 17 hrs prior to the discovery of the dead battery?

Either that, or you had hyper-drive engaged for an hour an a half. :D
 
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My hour meter said 49 when I started mowing, I came back to the house for diesel. On the way to the house, I noticed that the hour meter said 66. I only mowed for 1.5 hours. I can't figure it out either. I pulled the leads on the battery and put it on charge all day. It hasn't charged at all. How would that affect my hour meter?
 
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Pure speculation on my part, but i'm guessing you have some sort of space-time continuum on your propery. I wonder if you drove through it in the opposite direction....... your hourmeter might turn back?
 
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It's probably tractor rapture. Thats when you sit in the seat for 17 hours, but it just seams like 1 1/2!
 
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Kioti is especially bad about reversing the yellow stripped wire and the green unstripped wire to the framitz. This always causes half phasing to the progner which in turn causes the exact symptoms you mention. Simply reverse the wires to the framitz which is conveniently located just under and behind the mud valve and there you have it. Simple once you understand it.
 
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daBear said:
Kioti is especially bad about reversing the yellow stripped wire and the green unstripped wire to the framitz. This always causes half phasing to the progner which in turn causes the exact symptoms you mention. Simply reverse the wires to the framitz which is conveniently located just under and behind the mud valve and there you have it. Simple once you understand it.


Normally I would suggust this is where "missing" UFO alien abduction time goes but in this case I'm with daBear. Yeah; what he said.
 
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daBear said:
Kioti is especially bad about reversing the yellow stripped wire and the green unstripped wire to the framitz. This always causes half phasing to the progner which in turn causes the exact symptoms you mention. Simply reverse the wires to the framitz which is conveniently located just under and behind the mud valve and there you have it. Simple once you understand it.

Thats only for models that have the early version FluxCap. Look at the side and if it has a number before 19283749503 then you have the early version. In which case youll need to make shure you bleed off any access magneticfeild with a gaussmeter. Just note that you dont cross the polarity while dischargeing else you risk opening a small black hole which has been known to suck the tractor in in the past. (as the gravational force is the inverse square of the remaining magnetic charge in the FluxCap.)

But like he said, simple once you understand...
 
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I think we're setting a really poor example of how we can be helpful to someone who's obviously stressed-out enough. Mocking the guy isn't the right thing to do.

curdog76, First I'd be on the phone with the dealer. Just a silly question to eliminate one possibility: Are you sure you're reading the meter hours, and not tenths of hours?
 
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I thought the hour meter only worked when the tractor was actually running.
 
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Builder said:
Are you sure you're reading the meter hours, and not tenths of hours?

Builder, good call. It's probably 4.9hrs + 1.5hrs = 6.4 hours. 6.6 hours would only take 12 more minutes of use
 
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curdog76 said:
I noticed that in that hour and a half, my hour meter had jumped ahead 17 hours. What happened? Can a dead battery make that happen?

I can second verifying the tenths of an hour response as a possible cause (since I've done this myself). If you actually worked it for 1.7 hours (1 hr-42m) and then misread the meter.......it would appear to be 17 hours more.
 
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The responses were fun though, weren't they?

I cannot tell by your description if the time warp ahead event happened during the battery charge, or not. If it did, my bet is on poorly-rectified AC voltage squeeking thru and the hourmeter being affected by that AC. If your battery charger is like most, the rectifier section is a simple unit, for cost reasons.
 
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Come back curdog, we were just having a little fun. Actually you got some pretty good ideas also. I would probably tell folks I was a piano player in a cat house before I told them I misread a hour meter though. lol, just kidding.
 
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Yeah, I wish I had misread my hour meter. It doesn't have tenths though. The dealer said to take off the negative battery cable from the frame and clean off the paint and reattach it. I did that after the battery got recharged. I haven't had any more problems since. I've been mowing a lot lately and the battery has stayed charged. I am still 17 hours ahead on my hour meter. I take the key out every time I get off the tractor. The dead battery must have screwed with the meter somehow. Thanks.
 
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curdog76 said:
Yeah, I wish I had misread my hour meter. It doesn't have tenths though. The dealer said to take off the negative battery cable from the frame and clean off the paint and reattach it. I did that after the battery got recharged. I haven't had any more problems since. I've been mowing a lot lately and the battery has stayed charged. I am still 17 hours ahead on my hour meter. I take the key out every time I get off the tractor. The dead battery must have screwed with the meter somehow. Thanks.

I am guessing this was some strange currents when you tried to start on a dead (or weak) battery. Currents can go very high and when the key is turned off electrical spikes are generated. An electronic digital meter (it is digital right?) can jump in these circumstances. If it's not digital, some spikes may have damaged the circuitry and it may contimue to misbehave. Watch it closely the next time you mow.
 
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curdog76 said:
Yeah, I wish I had misread my hour meter. It doesn't have tenths though. The dealer said to take off the negative battery cable from the frame and clean off the paint and reattach it. I did that after the battery got recharged. I haven't had any more problems since. I've been mowing a lot lately and the battery has stayed charged. I am still 17 hours ahead on my hour meter. I take the key out every time I get off the tractor. The dead battery must have screwed with the meter somehow. Thanks.

I believe something similar happen to someone else on the forum.

If you want to know if the hour meter is active when the switch is on, just turn it to the on position for about 1 hour and then check the results.

You can not reset it, but you can unhook the meter for the amount of time you desire to correct the true tractor usage.

I am not saying to do this , but some people will disconnect the hour meter in order to show less hours on the tractor, and then hook it back up when they sell it. There is no way to tell, unless there is a hidden meter some where on the tractor. The rental business is aware of this practice. Some of them can monitor the running time on their machines remotely and know exactly where the machine is.
 
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I have a GMC truck, and have noticed the engine hours had gone back in time. It has happened twice. I notice it when changing the oil when writing the hours down on my log. So, I would say that it happens even in tractors. Why...I don't know. Seems like a mechanical counter run by electricity would be more accurate than a solid state one.
 
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J_J said:
I believe something similar happen to someone else on the forum.

If you want to know if the hour meter is active when the switch is on, just turn it to the on position for about 1 hour and then check the results.

You can not reset it, but you can unhook the meter for the amount of time you desire to correct the true tractor usage.

I am not saying to do this , but some people will disconnect the hour meter in order to show less hours on the tractor, and then hook it back up when they sell it. There is no way to tell, unless there is a hidden meter some where on the tractor. The rental business is aware of this practice. Some of them can monitor the running time on their machines remotely and know exactly where the machine is.

Yeah. I bought my old B7100 at an auction. There was also an L series there that showed only 45 hours or so. The seat was shot, the paint faded, the tires worn, etc. Either the thing had gone around the clock or someone disconnected the proofmeter.

Regarding the space-time warp -- if you use that method to reset things, you have to be sure to drive through it in reverse the second time or your proofmeter will jump by 17^2 hours next time through, which will mean you missed a service interval and your tractor will have a seizure and die shortly thereafter. :)
 

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