My bucket sucks!

   / My bucket sucks! #11  
Do yourself a favor and add the skid steer attachment option and the appropriate width Worksite Pro Foundry bucket.
 
   / My bucket sucks! #12  
Team_Green said:
Some people just use thier units to move soil and such. not for digging. why force a heavy bucket on them? If you want to beat on your machine have at it, just buy what you need. I use my units harder then they should be but i also expect some "wear" that most would be unhappy with.

Yeah, buckets should get some wear and tear, but they shouldn't bend out of plum the one time you need to do something more than move soil or manure with it, It's not a case of forcing a heavy duty bucket on them, it's a case of their shouldn't be a standard duty bucket at all, because all who have them, will soon enough regret them. A lot of customers go to buy a JD for quality and have no idea a better bucket or loader even exists, and then they are stuck with it. When I'm spending what I'm spending on a tractor, $400 more on a far superior loader is nothing, and $300 more is nothing to have a bucket that has the ability of handling everything.... from soil, manure, snow, backdragging, lifting with hooks, to carrying rocks without bending and twisting like the standard duty's always do... check out ebay sometime and look at the used standard buckets, If they've been used like you would expect them to be able to be used, they are always sure to be warped. Also think of resale value...
 
   / My bucket sucks! #13  
Go buy a section of 2" black pipe about 15.00 at the depot, cut to fit inside side plates. Now weld it to the top plate and top of side plates (kubota style),
slap some green paint on it and go dig.:D
 
   / My bucket sucks! #14  
I think that whenever anyone uses ANY equipment, no matter what it is you have to consider how you are going to do that job and what forces it will exert on the machine and attachments. ANY machine or attachment can be bent from improper use or operating techniques. The mightiest heavy equipment on Earth will bend and break under the hydraulic forces it exert. You just can not just drive up to a rock or stump and pick it up. You have to take it easy and use some common sense. Its just not that the standard bucket is a piece of junk. It does what it was designed to do,nothing more. If push it beyond its design limits.................its going to bend. Yes, just about any stock bucket can be made better by adding steel to reinforce it, but the manufacturers have to draw some line as to cost. After all you may have not bought a Deere if they charged an extra $900 for their loader bucket.
Oh, you can also twist the loader frame pretty easy by not taking into consideration what forces are being exerted on it. You have to know when to back off. I am not saying its just you. I have broke or bent bucket parts myself, it wasn't the buckets fault. It was my fault.

Sincerely, Dirt
 
   / My bucket sucks! #16  
JasonMac said:
John Deere Shouldn't even offer the standard bucket in my opinion...

I agree. I was just demoing the 4720 with 400cx loader. That std bkt is
a joke, with only 1/8" unreinforced steel sides and lip. Kubota's std bkts
are not very good either. Both offer HD bkts at least.

My Kioti std (only) bkt OTOH has 1/2" total thickness reinforced sides, the
top lip is double laminated, and the cutting edge is 5/8"x4.75". Total weight
for the 60-in bkt is 180#. Excellent design.
 
   / My bucket sucks! #17  
dfkrug said:
I agree. I was just demoing the 4720 with 400cx loader. That std bkt is
a joke, with only 1/8" unreinforced steel sides and lip. Kubota's std bkts
are not very good either. Both offer HD bkts at least.

My Kioti std (only) bkt OTOH has 1/2" total thickness reinforced sides, the
top lip is double laminated, and the cutting edge is 5/8"x4.75". Total weight
for the 60-in bkt is 180#. Excellent design.
I am skeptical of that weight. My 72" Mahindra bucket is 3/16 body and sides, 1/2 x 6" edge and weighs 400#. It is pretty tuf since it has some contouring on the sides and top for strength as well as three 1/2x 4" pieces of strap metal welded front to back on the bottom. It stands up to the forces applied by my 7520 with loaded AGs fairly well. I am looking toward adding about 40# to strategic locations. Another factor in bucket durability is the stength of the metal they use in construction. Stronger metal yields a lighter bucket but you run the risk of having it break if its bent much.
larry
 
   / My bucket sucks! #18  
dfkrug said:
My Kioti std (only) bkt OTOH has 1/2" total thickness reinforced sides, the
top lip is double laminated, and the cutting edge is 5/8"x4.75". Total weight
for the 60-in bkt is 180#. Excellent design.

I do quite a bit of heavy metal working and I must be misunderstanding your description. I've worked on some huge end loaders that hold over 8 cubic yards of material and the sides on them were only 1/2" and they held up well. If you have much depth and height to the 60" bucket you describe, I come up with a bucket weight of well over 1200 pounds that would be more suited for a really large excavator than a tractor.
 
   / My bucket sucks! #19  
my dealer pretty much only will sell the HD 61". He only charges like 100$more. Same w/ the backhoe I have on order, 18" HD for 60$ more. Seems like a no brainer at those prices, just what he wants as he says he gets less complaints.
 
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   / My bucket sucks! #20  
Dargo said:
I do quite a bit of heavy metal working and I must be misunderstanding your description. I've worked on some huge end loaders that hold over 8 cubic yards of material and the sides on them were only 1/2" and they held up well. If you have much depth and height to the 60" bucket you describe, I come up with a bucket weight of well over 1200 pounds that would be more suited for a really large excavator than a tractor.

I said nothing about volume. The CK30 bkt is probably only 6 cf in
volume and the carcass is prob only 1/8" steel, but no 1/8" steel edges
like the std JDs and std Kubs. They added reinforcement wear plates
(3/8") on the sides and added more 1/8 rolled plate on the upper lip.
I weighed the bkt. I have had the std Kubota and std JD bkts and they
were usually higher in volume, but not durable in the key areas.
 

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