MONTANA

   / MONTANA #41  
Go with a tried and true machine, dont skimp out on some untested machine new on the market
 
   / MONTANA #42  
I do not have a .pdf of the manual but I can answer any questions you may have. The Montana is awsome and I know you will be satisfied with it should you make the purchase.

As one person said go with the tried and true. I am sure Kubota, when they were getting their foothold in the market contended with the same thing. They were a great value and still are a good machine but orange paint is pretty expensive.

I would suggest you drive the Montana and the Kubota and then decide. I am confident that you will like the feel, function and price of the Montana.

The Mitsubishi engine delivers smooth, quiet and constant reliable power, the tractor will go and go. I will say the quality of the LG5740 is second to no one.

Quality, value, feel, use, warranty, financing are all considerations and with the LG Montana you have it all plus will keep some money in your pocket.

I would really say try both and buy what is best for you. I tell all of my customers this and have had many try the Kubota and come buy the LG Montana.

Good luck in your purchase and if you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask. Before I get really negative comments from all the Kubota fans I feel they are good tractors and am not knocking them. I personally feel they tend to be over priced at least in our region.

Good Luck,
Maka
 
   / MONTANA #43  
It is not skimping out by buying a LG Montana. Lets look at it this way. Back, not to long ago there was a compact tractor that came to the U.S. with a funny name that no one knew. Kubota? Don't buy one of those untested, made in Asia tractors. Well, Kubota perservered and built their rep in spite of zero name recognition at the time.

Fast forward to now. The LG Montana is manufactured by a company called LG, use Mitsubishi engines, Eaton Hydro pumps, Delphi, etc.

They already have name recognition as a high quality producer of name brand products, LG cell phones, Havoline motor oil, Delo, LGphilips (plasma and HDTVs), Tropicana soap, own 47% of the U.S. home air con market for window units, LG appliances avail. at Best Buy and other big retailers and I could go on. The great thing is when my customers come in and my LG Montana is made buy the company that makes their cell phone they love, makes the washer/dryer they love, makes the refridgerator they love and if they don't have those things I educate them quickly as to who they are then they have no question as to what company this is that manufactures these tractors.

Couple the already recognized name, with the high quality and the relatively low price and the Kubota dealer down the street is not happy. In fact, a customer who bought an LG from me was told by the Kubota dealer down the road he would not rent him any implements. He is big into rental and makes a good business on that.

Guess what business I will be adding to my tractor sales? Yip, you got it, rentals. The Kubota dealer here has competition and does not like it and is a very poor sport about it. Now, before you get in a tizzy I am talking about the local Kubota dealer here not all of them but now I am out selling him in tractors and I can't wait to start renting equipment out as well.

LG is a 100 billion dollar company with tremendous brand recognition, awsome tractors that is far more recognizable than Kubota was when they started.

A little research will render lots of info on this. Anyone who wants a Montana just needs to look at the company backing this product and know that you will be getting a fine machine that is backed by a hugh company with a world wide presence and recognition.

Nuf said.

Maka
 
   / MONTANA #44  
I hope their tractors are better than their cell phones! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif I don't have anything good to say about their cell phones! /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif I use about 5000 minutes per month and not on an LG phone! Obviously completely different from tractors.

On Kubota, even when they came to the U.S., it was easy to research and find that they had made their own tractors since 1890. I understand your analogy, but it doesn't quite work with Kubota. Kubota had been building tractors for nearly 100 years, and they make their own engines, transmissions etc. Maybe Montana is where Kioti was a few years ago.
 
   / MONTANA #45  
Tell me what the problem is with their phones and I will be happy to tell you if it is engineering or some inept sales person or rep who set it up wrong.

Have you had an LG?

I was on the design team that built the CDMA chips in the LG phones, Samsung phones, Kyocera phones, Audiovox phones and several others. The LG engineers are some of the best in the world and that is evidenced by the fact that their phones sales are going through the roof. It is easy to get a bad one out of the millions but what exactly is the problem with the phone?

I designed the RAMS, ROMS, TXDACS on most of their CDMA phones and would be happy to try and diagnose your problem.

By the way they are doing great in handset sales and here are some links

Raising profits

LG projects 70 Million units in 2005

Not the biggest in the world yet but on the way.

Now I am sure we can find a few people to say good and bad about any company.

Here is one on Kubota

Kubota Recall
/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Of course, these are their RTV and not their tractors but.......

This can be done of any product and Kubota as shown here sure has some things to deal with. OUCH!

By the way, 5000 minutes a month could be dangerous to your health. Many debates on the health risk of useage but that is another discussion.

Maka
 
   / MONTANA #46  
Cool! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif I don't know squat about cell phones, and don't really care. I just want them to work; always. Maybe you can tell me why I'm forced to go to this crappy GSM type of service? Nobody is going to convince me it is better than the CDMA or TDMA! Believe me, I get enough experience with it! Well, sort of off of tractors, but I am obviously a heavy cell phone user. (keeps me out of the office /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif)
 
   / MONTANA #47  
Brent,
1890???---I thought the only horse-power available on farms back then was from the ones you put fodder in one end and got manure out the other. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
If you are ever over in eastern Ohio on I-70 (just west of Cambridge)--you might want to visit the museum, (I think it is the Zane Trace Museum), that has some history of road building in the US. Out front you will see an old horse drawn asphalt roller donated by the family of T.C. Norman & Son Contractors---this equipment is from that era--and was pretty much state-of-the-art at that time.
(T.C. was my great grandfather---and after looking at your profile---could be a distant relative of yours)

Sorry that this may be a little of-topic--but hey,gotta have a little fun,right??

dancce
 
   / MONTANA #48  
Yeah, I agree with you on GSM. I have some good info on CDMA vs. GSM and would be happy to share with you any time. Let me know, have a good one.

Maka
 
   / MONTANA #49  
jhbusa,

Getting back to answering your questions,I think Maka answered them quite well, (and beat me to the punch).
The only thing that I can add, is that, after you compare tractors---in person,up close, and from a spec standpoint---I think that you will find that the Montana 4940 will compare more closely with the Kubota L5030, than the 5740.
The Montana 5740 is a lot more tractor, in most respects ,than the L5030,and still costs less.
Kubota does offer some options (at extra cost) like hydro trannys ,etc.----but the bottom line is --you can buy a top quality tractor from a reputable manufacturer, for a lot less money with the Montana.

dancce
 
   / MONTANA #50  
<font color="green"> Tell me what the problem is with their phones and I will be happy to tell you if it is engineering or some inept sales person or rep who set it up wrong.
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My wife has an LG flip phone on the Verison network. The phone is junk and I don't like the network either. I'm sure they make a lot of the phones, we got hers for free. I guess we got what we paid for!
 
   / MONTANA #51  
We're getting way off topic here, but the first LG flip-phone my wife bought would revert to sending incoming messages to voice mail every time it was turned off. It required re-setting to take incoming calls every time it was turned on. The phone techs could not repair it so they replaced it. The one she has now regularly turns itself off during conversations.
 
   / MONTANA #52  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( ...dealer down the street is not happy. ...Kubota dealer down the road he would not rent him any implements. ...The Kubota dealer here has competition and does not like it and is a very poor sport about it.
)</font>

Maka, your 'bota dealer sounds like both my local dealers. They both sell other brands, but immediately steer you toward a 'bota upon entering their stores. If you persist in asking questions about, or showing interest in, another machine, they both adopt a your-wasting-my-time attitude. I actually had one dealer tell me, and this is a direct quote, "Come back and see me when you're serious about buying." He then turned and walked away. I haven't set foot in his place since.

The other dealer, despite being listed on a manufacturer's web site as my local dealer, refuses to stock any of this brand. When I asked about this brand, he at first denied being a dealer. When I pointed out the web site listing, he reluctantly admitted he was, but quickly added that if I wanted one, it would have to paid-in-full (to the tune of about $6.5k) before he would think of ordering it. I could forget about the thought of any possible demo. I haven't been back there either!

Now, Kubota might make a nice product, but with dealers like that, I'll never find out!
 
   / MONTANA #53  
Hey all,

Many times a phone is blamed for the lack of good network coverage, service provider etc. I see people all the time who complain about their phone when it was set up wrong, their are dead spots in the service area etc. It is always the phone. In any case, it is a mute.

My point was plainly clear in my previous post. Lets get back to tractors.

Maka
 
   / MONTANA #54  
It is sad about some of the Kubota dealers. I do note that it is not all Kubota dealers but I have to say the one in our area is a completely nasty individual.

I have a customer who was shopping for a tractor for contract work. He was looking at Kubota, NH, JD and Montana. He shopped for 3 months and came in about 8 times to drive, compare, look at and decide if he wanted 43 or 49 hp.

He chose the LG4340 (43hp) with lots of extras. The Kubota dealer would not negotiate one penny for him and said he did not need to. So, I signed the deal and delivered a new LG4340, 7' hydraulic 6 way dozer blade, claw bucket with tooth bar, 6' HD box scrapper and he has a log winch, grapple and backhoe on order for spring.

Kubotas are good tractors (I think way over priced at least in my area) and this is not a negative commentary ( <font color="blue"> I like to think I have more class than to start bashing)</font> on their product nor all of their dealers it is a dealer in our area that thinks so highly of his product that he drives customers to purchase mine.

If the Kubota/NH dealer were less worried about what I am doing and less worried about my product and more focused on their business and customers he would be so much better off.

I know why he is worried though and understand as now I have customers out hauling their Montanas around town using them for all kinds of work and building up our presence, name recognition, customer support base and all around visibility.

Maka
 
   / MONTANA #55  
Man, I didn't mean to start a fight. So Montana's come with cell phones is what I am reading? By George, I'm going back and telling the salesperson you all said so.

Everything I did find researching and driving the Montana went well. I sure wish they could rent me one. The problem is, I didn't find much history or opinion on the tractor. All your previous post are VERY educational even if there is some ragging going on.

Remember, I get 7-9 more HP and CAB with the 5740, selectable PTO, 4 remotes, etc. all for less than the L5030 ... and I worked the Kubota sales guys hard. The extra HP is appealing, though I wouldn't need a CAB.

Maka, you offered a chance to save the sale our inept sales kid was trying to make. Let's give junior some help. I recognize we all were juniors in our profession (even farming and tractors) before we had a clue. Junior needs some sales 101. The problem is I'm not willing to give up what may be the right thing to do.

Here's what I asked of junior.

Implements:

I need a comparison of the MRC 7260SC with a BH306 and bush-whacker 72". I got the specs for the BH and bush-whacker but not the Montana. $2000 versus $1260 for the Montana.

I need a comparison of a Dan User 20/40 and a BH2102 versus a MPHD 9. $1200 with carbide tip auger from DU versus the MPHD9 or 12? $512 (without carbide) or $1200?

I need to compare a 7ft Atlas (which I can't find any info) with a BH RBX720 or a Cammond BS72R?

On all the above, opinions don't count until we first see the some specs. 1/4 inch steel or 3/8 inch? What's the PTO HP ratings? What augers can the Montana handle? Can the cutter handle 2" or 3" trees and the neighbors ugly cat? Pictures would be nice ... of the cat ... after it hit the cutter. If I drop the Montana cell phone, will the box blade gently move it out of the way if the scarers are down?

All joking aside, I'm still seriously interested in the Montana. Check out the distributer location. I live about 20 minutes from Springdale. The dealer is owned by the son of Mr. J.B. Hunt. I work for his dad. (Dad doesn't run the company any more though).

The first Kubota dealer sales person, and owner of the dealership, was very helpful and patient with my **** retentive, rookie questions.

The second Kubota dealer sales person was a country boy that loves his job. I had good experiences with both.

I'm not the kind of guy that does well with "it should work" "it may last" "I think so". Not for $32,500 and the toys I want.


Dang Kubota's are a bit pricey though.
 
   / MONTANA #56  
Hi jhb. I am glad you got to go down to the distribution center. I saw your profile and meant to suggest that maybe it was close by and you might visit them.

No, the the phone does not come with the tractor that I know of but the detachable face stereo is an LG /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I will be happy to give you some comparisons but it will be later tomorrow.

I will do my best to make sure I answer all of your questions and no matter what you purchase I wish you the best.

Maka
 
   / MONTANA #58  
Hello jhb,

Just wanted to get back to you as promised. The first thing I would like to address is the LG5740 pto output. The pto output is 52hp.

As far as the implements I have a couple of questions. You mention cutting 2" or 3" trees. What kind of trees, jack pine or some hard wood? is it more underbrush? If they are trees and you want to cut 3" have you considered possibly a flail mower vs brush mower?

MRC7260
72" cut, 60hp gear box, 1150lbs, 3/16" deck, 1/2x4x30" blades with a 2" cut recommendation (depending on what is being cut)

As far as the PHD goes we don't have a comparison to a Dan User as it is just a different class. I will tell you that the LG5740 will dig post holes with those post hole diggers.

The MPHD9 or 12 is a good PHD. Here are the specs for those;
The digger less the auger is 179lbs. We have 6, 9 and 12" augers available.

9" auger weighs 34lbs and has replaceable screw point with inner and our cutting edges.

12" auger weighs 55lbs and has replaceable screw point with inner and our cutting edges.

Cutting edges are a high-carbon beveled steel design

540 pto, cat. 1 or 2 and come standard with guide bar.

I have a LG5740 on our lot and have farmers who use the 5740 to use their swathers with conditioners, move round bales all day long etc.

This tractor will (not might) do the job. This tractor is reliable and this tractor will make you very happy. I will send some pictures via email of LGs at work logging, plowing etc.

I hope I have been of some help and wish you luck in your purchase no matter what that purchase is. As for the cat, my dog brings them home all the time and he thinks they taste very good. Get a good dog for that problem.

Best Regards,
Maka
 
   / MONTANA #59  
Maka can you run a backhoe with a cab.I know you can't run a Kubota backhoe with their cab
 
   / MONTANA #60  
Check again, there are several guys on TBN who run a back hoe with their Kubota cab tractors.

Check out this link for a very nice L5030HSTC that DDT has with a backhoe.
I Got My L 5030 Cab Tractor
 

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