Model Change

[RFB]

It seems as if the B3030 model number is changing to the B3000 for 2011.

We are considering a B3030HSDCC with a front blower to add to our snow removal capabilities.

Anyone here know about when the 2011 model line for B's hits?

 

[Ductape]

Nope...... just heard thoughts that they may hit the dealers early spring. Have you seen the new B3000 ? According to what I've seen in another discussion here, they haven't changed much from the B3030. If the website was correct, they have given them the quarter-inching valve as opposed to the B3030's position control. A step down in my opinion..... I'd just get the 3030 now.

 

[RFB]

Mr. D,

From what I can gather here: Products: B3000HSDCC Kubota Canada Ltd.

the B3000HSDCC has a "Position control valve"

whereas the B3000HSDC has "Quarter inching valve"

I find nothing on any U.S. sites.

RFB

 

[Ductape]

There you go. Apparently you can stay with position control if you get the cold weather package. Either way...... i see nothing to gain by waiting for the B3000.

 

[CHDinCT]

My guess is the reference to the quarter inching valve is a mistake. Kubota listed my BX25 as having position control on one of the spec's pages and we know that isn't correct.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Its not a mistake. There will be both a quater inching and pos control model. Its the same tractor as the B3030, I'm not sure why they are bothering to change the model number.

 

[Ductape]

Its not a mistake. There will be both a quater inching and pos control model. Its the same tractor as the B3030, I'm not sure why they are bothering to change the model number.

Which one will the open station tractor have?

 

[stevess]

doesn't the new model have better insulation and a bh option?
steve
bx25

 

[Ductape]

doesn't the new model have better insulation and a bh option?
steve
bx25

The cab is the same, but supposedly it has some insulation panels that the 3030 doesn't. And, yes.... the Kubota backhoe is now an option. Logic tells me that since the tractor is virtually unchanged, anyone with a 3030 should be able to mount the Kubota hoe to their tractor.

 

[CHDinCT]

Its not a mistake. There will be both a quater inching and pos control model. Its the same tractor as the B3030, I'm not sure why they are bothering to change the model number.

Wow, that's hard to believe and a mistake in my opinion. Seems to me most competitors are putting position control on their full tractor line while Kubota is pushing its lower cost and less competitive quarter inching valve up market; in this case to one of their premium B series tractors. Don't understand that move.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

...I'm not sure why having both available is a mistake?

Gotta remeber this is an enthusiest website. By my estimation well over half of compact owners never use their 3pt hitch. Since its become optional on the BX25 we sell maybe 25-30% of the machines with the $200 3pt kit. Kubota seems to be able to remove considerable cost using the 1/4 design... heck I'd almost go as far as say they should offer a model with a pos control, and another with no 3pt funcationalty at all. Why would you force people to pay more for somthing that brings little to no benifit to the average tractor owner.

 

[RFB]

Mr. Messick,

Slight thread drift, but since you sell both lines, does NH make a comparable model (attributes, size, capability, bang-for-buck) to the B3030HSDCC?

Thank you

 

[CHDinCT]

So if you're in FL for example, you need to get the cold weather package to get position control?

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Mr. Messick,

Slight thread drift, but since you sell both lines, does NH make a comparable model (attributes, size, capability, bang-for-buck) to the B3030HSDCC?

Thank you

No. They don't. In this size Kubota is the only company.

So if you're in FL for example, you need to get the cold weather package to get position control?

Fair point, never thought of that.

 

[timswi]

...I'm not sure why having both available is a mistake?

Gotta remeber this is an enthusiest website. By my estimation well over half of compact owners never use their 3pt hitch. Since its become optional on the BX25 we sell maybe 25-30% of the machines with the $200 3pt kit. Kubota seems to be able to remove considerable cost using the 1/4 design... heck I'd almost go as far as say they should offer a model with a pos control, and another with no 3pt funcationalty at all. Why would you force people to pay more for somthing that brings little to no benifit to the average tractor owner.

Not sure that I would call this an enthusiest site. We use these things. I use my 3ph all the time as does almost everyone I know that owns a CUT or SCUT...That's one of the main reasons we have them, beyond the FEL.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Not sure that I would call this an enthusiest site.

It is. I am sure many other dealers could reflect this, but the precieved needs of people on this website and those of the average tractor owner are very different. TBN is not at all reflective of the larger tractor buying public.

 

[RFB]

Mr. Messick,

Interesting premise, and no quibble with it. I know it might be hard to quantify, but how much of the type of buyer that you find on TBN do you think contributes to the overall purchase of the genre (genre being defined as let's say 80hp and down)?

Personally, I decided upon the premise of buying a tractor prior to finding this site. It (TBN) was however very influential in my selection.

Both your company and Mr. Wallace's (I do enjoy orange) have been frequent and very helpful purveyors. Another possible non-quantifiable factor: folks like you (and other dealers here) have a sort of gravitational effect that they are unable to find in their own locale.

Just random thoughts.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Interesting premise, and no quibble with it. I know it might be hard to quantify, but how much of the type of buyer that you find on TBN do you think contributes to the overall purchase of the genre (genre being defined as let's say 80hp and down)?

Personally, I decided upon the premise of buying a tractor prior to finding this site. It (TBN) was however very influential in my selection.

if your asking what percentage of my customers I think are aware of this website... I'd say maybe 5%. Its very few. My posting here has nothing to do with value to our business. Like everyone else, I am here because I enjoy the conversation about equipment and it helps round out my own knowledge.

 

[TripleR]

It would be nice if more owners and dealers were aware of these types of sites. I only discovered it accidentally a couple of years ago and it has been a lot of help.

 

[Tractorr1]

The cab is the same, but supposedly it has some insulation panels that the 3030 doesn't.

Mr. Messick
Do you know if the sound insulation panels for the B3000 will be available for adding to the B3030 HSDC?