MF1739E versus 1742 help with decision

[Unclewilley]

Hoping to get input to help with decision regarding replacement of nine year old CG2310 with a 1700 series tractor. I'm leaning toward a 1742 (Premium series) but trying to justify the additional $6,900 versus a 1739E (Economy series). I have quotes for both tractors from my local dealer that include tractor, front loader and 72 rear snow blower: 1739E $21,500 (60 bucket), 1742 $31,300 (66 bucket). They are offering app. $9,500 trade-in on my nine year old GC2310 TLB with mid-mount mower (670 hours on the tractor).

Main reasons for upgrade from GC2310 is need for "power" to run 72" versus current 48" snowblower on a 500 foot driveway near Buffalo NY. Last winters "SnowVember", seven (7) feet of snow in 3 days was a killer for my little 2310. It took an hour just to make it to the road on first pass with about 36" snow on the ground. With the 2310 I need to raise the blower back into snow few feet, pull forward, lower blower and backup again, repeating those steps to make the first cut to the road. Also need more power to a front loader to clear ditches, transplant trees etc.

Benefits of the 1742 appear to include:

• 42 hp vs. 39 hp
• Isolated-mounted flat enclosed platform with rubber cover
• Electronic rear PTO, wet clutch with Soft Start
• Premium suspension seat with armrests
• Bucket 66 skid-steer attach vs. 60 bucket pin type
• App. 50% greater FL lift capacity 1742 lift capacity 1,300 lbs. at max heights, breakout at 2,190 lbs. versus 830 lbs. and 1,460 lbs. respectively for 1739E
• Cruise control
• Max speed adjustment
• Acceleration adjustment
• Tilt steering
• Rear 3-point hitch lower arms extend for easier attachment hookup
• Crank versus turnbuckle for rear attachment height adjustment
• Brakes dual pedal

Option: Snow blower 72 with hydraulic chute requires adding remote to rear PTO $1,329 - worth the price?

 

[Beltman60]

you can buy a few extra implements with 10K

 

[zudnik]

I'm looking at a gc1710, but shoot me some details on your 2310 because I might be willing to give you more than the dealer would.

 

[Unclewilley]

I'm looking at a gc1710, but shoot me some details on your 2310 because I might be willing to give you more than the dealer would.

CG2310 TLB (Tractor, loader, backhoe) app. 670 hours. Also have a 48" rear mount snow blower, mid-mount-mower 60", post hole digger and a large cart/trailer. Purchased app. Feb. 2006.

I live in Western NY just south of Buffalo.

 

[Unclewilley]

Can anyone who owns a 1739E or 1742 comment on their experience with either of these tractors?

 

[TSO]

I have the 1648 and love it. Great tractor. The 1742 is obviously the updated version of mine (smaller series) and of course is a deluxe tractor, whereas the 1739e is an economy model. While I enjoy having the features of the deluxe tractor, I understand that it's up to each purchaser to determine their value. I guess the reality is, either tractor will do the work. But, are the extra features and capabilities worth the added cost TO YOU?

 

[Unclewilley]

TSO, thanks for the comments.

For blowing snow, any idea how much advantage in the added hp of the 1742 vs. 1739E?

 

[TSO]

TSO, thanks for the comments.

For blowing snow, any idea how much advantage in the added hp of the 1742 vs. 1739E?

See if the dealer will provide the manual for both tractors for you to look at. You should be able to see the actual torque output and torque rise for each engine.

Keep in mind, the E series tractors use the same 1.5L Shibaura engine for the 1726e, 34e & 39e. While the premium series uses a 1.7L Mitsubishi in the 1736, 42 & 49.

So... That means the engine in the 1739e is already pushed to the top of its capacity for the high HP numbers (at a higher rpm too) and so torque numbers might not be great. In comparison, the Mitsu in the 1742 is at more of a medium HP tune, so the torque numbers will likely be better.

While rated HP is fine for spec books, sustained torque is what you need for PTO work.

 

[Unclewilley]

See if the dealer will provide the manual for both tractors for you to look at. You should be able to see the actual torque output and torque rise for each engine.

Keep in mind, the E series tractors use the same 1.5L Shibaura engine for the 1726e, 34e & 39e. While the premium series uses a 1.7L Mitsubishi in the 1736, 42 & 49.

So... That means the engine in the 1739e is already pushed to the top of its capacity for the high HP numbers (at a higher rpm too) and so torque numbers might not be great. In comparison, the Mitsu in the 1742 is at more of a medium HP tune, so the torque numbers will likely be better.

While rated HP is fine for spec books, sustained torque is what you need for PTO work.

Great info, THANKS!!!!

 

[Unclewilley]

See if the dealer will provide the manual for both tractors for you to look at. You should be able to see the actual torque output and torque rise for each engine.

Keep in mind, the E series tractors use the same 1.5L Shibaura engine for the 1726e, 34e & 39e. While the premium series uses a 1.7L Mitsubishi in the 1736, 42 & 49.

So... That means the engine in the 1739e is already pushed to the top of its capacity for the high HP numbers (at a higher rpm too) and so torque numbers might not be great. In comparison, the Mitsu in the 1742 is at more of a medium HP tune, so the torque numbers will likely be better.

While rated HP is fine for spec books, sustained torque is what you need for PTO work.

The only info I have found so far is Rated PTO HP (kW)
1739E: Gear: 29.0 (21.6) HST: 27.2 (20.3)
1742: Gear: 32.8 (24.5) HST: 31.6 (23.5)